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UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004
Haven't checked this thread in a while but oh my god that :females: dating strategy sub is hilarious

FDS is NOT and will NEVER BE anything like The RedPill or MGTOW, and we are NOT incels. They’re playing tiddly-winks and we’re playing expert level chess.

quote:

After months and months of trying and failing to get men to grasp what FDS is, I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s impossible.

I know, I know, it was probably crazy to ever presume they could, but I wanted to try for my own understanding of where the gaps were coming from.

What I’ve found, from now months of discussion, is that the actual experience of being a woman is so vastly different from what men imagine, assume or project that it’s like that it’s quite literally impossible for them to grasp. Womanhood is apparently all mimosas and ponies and sexual attention and vagina hats and scamming men for money in their minds. They can’t identify with us on any level.

This is why their attempts to compare FDS to RedPill or MGTOW or incels always fall laughably short and are viscerally insulting.

The don’t understand the vastly different stakes, the much higher risks, the much lower rewards, the devastating consequences of failure, and the infinitely higher strategic difficulty.

Picking the father of our future children will effect our entire immediate lives, our children’s lives, as well as our family for generations to come. This is the major leagues of relationship skills. Men have no ability to conceptualize tomorrow, much less that far into the future.

RedPill is about getting some drunk low self esteem girls to have sex with you, which is Hi-ho cherry-oh level strategic skills. The Red Pill is kindergarten, FDS is college level calculus.

MGTOW is a bunch of little boys who lost a couple of matches taking their board game and storming off; FDS is evolving the game all together.

Incels want teacher to come along and force everyone to win equal times or they’ll destroy all the pieces to the game so nobody can play. FDS is that teacher telling them they need to practice and get better or try a different game.

Yet, these men manage to fill tomes of content listening to themselves blather on endlessly about the nature of women while actually saying very little and getting it consistently wrong.

We communicate in memes and short form discussions because Women who participate in FDS can intuit most of our ideas very easily - there is a worldwide shared understanding of what womanhood means in relation to men.

So in conclusion, talking to most men and especially the manosphere about gender relations is literally like trying to reason with children. Hence the loud and vitriolic internet tantrums we’ve been getting since FDS’ meteoric rise to Reddit fame.

It’s been wild ride, y’all.

My "not a female incel" tshirt is getting me a lot of questions already answered by my tshirt

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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
FDS' meteoric rise to Reddit fame.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

Haven't checked this thread in a while but oh my god that :females: dating strategy sub is hilarious

FDS is NOT and will NEVER BE anything like The RedPill or MGTOW, and we are NOT incels. They’re playing tiddly-winks and we’re playing expert level chess.


My "not a female incel" tshirt is getting me a lot of questions already answered by my tshirt
Imagine being so extremely online you make a post like this and wonder why men don't want to be with you

30 TO 50 FERAL HOG
Mar 2, 2005



what the gently caress is FDS

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
Female Dating Strategy

Ralph Crammed In
May 11, 2007

Let's get clean and smart


Sandwich Anarchist posted:

I know a guy who is from Sweden and laments not being able to display and wear all the awesome norse imagery he wants because it's all been Co-opted by white supremacy.

My family is Scandinavian and growing up my dad always talked about how great Scandinavians are, mostly due to their socialist policies, and to celebrate my brother got a big Viking tattoo when he turned eighteen. He later went to prison for a few years and everyone thought he was in the Aryan Brotherhood cause of his tats and he was loving mortified. My brother is not a goddamned Nazi, we just were just proud of our socialist brothers.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Ralph Crammed In posted:

My family is Scandinavian and growing up my dad always talked about how great Scandinavians are, mostly due to their socialist policies, and to celebrate my brother got a big Viking tattoo when he turned eighteen. He later went to prison for a few years and everyone thought he was in the Aryan Brotherhood cause of his tats and he was loving mortified. My brother is not a goddamned Nazi, we just were just proud of our socialist brothers.

You were proud of your national socialists. Very understandable.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Norse mythology is cool and good and has a lot more crossdressing and mpreg than I think Nazis want to admit.

IIRC it's also pretty scattered and fragmented, though, as a lot of the texts for it have been straight-up lost, so I imagine it's an easy thing for white supremacists to project whatever they want onto, like Viking culture itself, based on whatever they think is the natural order of the world. IIRC a while back a bunch of skeletons of Vikings buried with swords were looked at again and people realized they're women, but because they were buried with swords the automatic archeological assumption at the time had been of course they're men, because everyone knows the women stayed home and the men went and fought, just like everyone knows the Vikings were lily-white with a pure, untarnished culture despite them being wide-ranging traders who adapted things they liked from other places and mixed around.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




I used to think most of FDS posts were incels pretending to be the awful women strawmen they always swore existed but now I'm starting to think it's real women leaning into the stereotype because they know it riles them up

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

Haven't checked this thread in a while but oh my god that :females: dating strategy sub is hilarious

FDS is NOT and will NEVER BE anything like The RedPill or MGTOW, and we are NOT incels. They’re playing tiddly-winks and we’re playing expert level chess.


My "not a female incel" tshirt is getting me a lot of questions already answered by my tshirt

Wow, so instead of dismissing the incel/redpill/whatever dipshits as the misogynistic cesspools of failed man-children they actually are, you're trying to make some sort of honest comparison between you and them. I feel like that instantly brings you down to their level.

OhAreThey
Oct 12, 2012

I like your nurse's uniform, guy.

Wow, this is a fascinating subreddit. It's a weird mix of conservative (no BDSM ever and if you like BDSM it's because you've been traumatized) and, like, chaotic feminism (date as many men as you want at once! Never tell a guy how many people you hosed--just lie!). It's wild.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Turns out that general idiocy and self-destructive behavior wrt dating/relationships is a cross-gender attribute.

avoid doorways
Jun 6, 2010

'twas brillig
Gun Saliva

Hobo Clown posted:

I used to think most of FDS posts were incels pretending to be the awful women strawmen they always swore existed but now I'm starting to think it's real women leaning into the stereotype because they know it riles them up

There's another layer. FDS has a private spinoff sub called DarkTriadWomen that only invites people with established reddit histories of championing the rhetoric, so a non-zero number of them are redpillers and incels doing creative writing exercises as a rep-grind for access to the Inner Sanctum.

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

Are you that surprised? How many stories have we seen where men flip out when they realize their partners weren’t chaste virgins before their relationship? Or men who have no job or money and just mooch off their girlfriends? When confronted with such idiocy and awfulness, sometimes people’s brains break. Rather than get taken advantage of, these women are making sure no one ever lives up to their standards.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Dazerbeams posted:

Are you that surprised? How many stories have we seen where men flip out when they realize their partners weren’t chaste virgins before their relationship? Or men who have no job or money and just mooch off their girlfriends? When confronted with such idiocy and awfulness, sometimes people’s brains break. Rather than get taken advantage of, these women are making sure no one ever lives up to their standards.

Destroying feminism to own the incels.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Dazerbeams posted:

Are you that surprised? How many stories have we seen where men flip out when they realize their partners weren’t chaste virgins before their relationship? Or men who have no job or money and just mooch off their girlfriends? When confronted with such idiocy and awfulness, sometimes people’s brains break. Rather than get taken advantage of, these women are making sure no one ever lives up to their standards.

It's ok. You don't have to invent reasons or excuses for them. There doesn't need to be any. They're just women who are stupid and self-destructive. That's fine. There are men who are just stupid and self-destructive, many of them in fact. There doesn't need to be an excuse for why someone is in FDS anymore than there needs to be one for a redpiller or whatever.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

Licarn posted:

There's another layer. FDS has a private spinoff sub called DarkTriadWomen that only invites people with established reddit histories of championing the rhetoric, so a non-zero number of them are redpillers and incels doing creative writing exercises as a rep-grind for access to the Inner Sanctum.

ahhhh it all makes sense now. I normally assume anything on Reddit that paints women in any sort of negative light is some sort of incel/redpill fantasy. Now I want to believe that the entire FDS sub is just a misinformation campaign run by those very communities.

DeathCrabForCutie
Jul 14, 2019
oh fuc-

Chomp8645 posted:

It's ok. You don't have to invent reasons or excuses for them. There doesn't need to be any. They're just women who are stupid and self-destructive. That's fine. There are men who are just stupid and self-destructive, many of them in fact. There doesn't need to be an excuse for why someone is in FDS anymore than there needs to be one for a redpiller or whatever.

Exactly. Women are allowed to be poo poo people too.

They're not poo poo because they're women, they're just lovely and also happen to be women.

AWALT and other incel-y mantras need to die already.

eta:

DaveSauce posted:

ahhhh it all makes sense now. I normally assume anything on Reddit that paints women in any sort of negative light is some sort of incel/redpill fantasy. Now I want to believe that the entire FDS sub is just a misinformation campaign run by those very communities.

That's also not impossible. I'd guess it's probably 50/50

DeathCrabForCutie fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Mar 5, 2020

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

DaveSauce posted:

ahhhh it all makes sense now. I normally assume anything on Reddit that paints women in any sort of negative light is some sort of incel/redpill fantasy. Now I want to believe that the entire FDS sub is just a misinformation campaign run by those very communities.

Some people really are gonna ride the conspiracy theory train no matter what, aren't they lol.

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

Chomp8645 posted:

Yeah yeah, I knew someone would post this.

"I don't think a viking t-shirt = is a nazi"

"Wow look at this guy defending nazi t-shirts!!!"


Come on, man. Is that really the way we do things now?

Yeah, it's heritage, not hate

avoid doorways
Jun 6, 2010

'twas brillig
Gun Saliva
I touched something left outside in front of my house and I think I may have invited something into my home. What do I do?

quote:

Some time yesterday a brown paper bag was left in front of my house and my mom and I have no idea where and from whom it came from. I was home the entire day, but hadn’t noticed the bag until I had gotten a text from my mom who came home early.

Note: I found this odd because I would’ve seen it from my bedroom window, and looking back now: I did feel as though I were being watched whenever I came downstairs. Not exactly by a person, but something — and for whatever reason, I had worked in my bedroom instead of going downstairs (Gut feeling).

When she got of the car she had asked our neighbor if he had seen what may have happened, and she also asked me if I knew what was in the bag. I took this as a cue to go over and take a look at it.... my mistake.

While peaking, I saw (full) brown beer bottles and took it as nothing serious. My mom warned me not to touch it after the fact that I had, and promised to not do it again.

Fast forward a few hours later, past 9 PM, I was in my room and smelt something metallic burning. I asked my mom if she had left the electric stovetop or similar on, and she said no. Regardless, I went downstairs and saw that there was our kettle left on top of a burner that was off and cooling down. I simply took it away from the burner and bid adieu to my bed.

This morning, I got a text from my mom saying that the house could have burned down last night. What happened? At 12:12 AM she woke up to the same smell and went into the kitchen to find the kettle somehow found on the burner, the handle almost melted and dry.... I think I may have invited something into my house because of my dumb mistake.

Since the text, I’ve smudged my house with a sage bundle I have and I‘m low key scared and want to take more preventative measures.

TL;DR: A paper bag full of alcohol appeared in front of my house w/ no idea who/where it came from, I touched it like a dumbass, and my house almost burned down in the same day. I believe I invited something into my home and looking on how I can protect myself and my mom.

Any advice or tips is greatly appreciated.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!
One of those interchangable C-Spam threads about the alt-right every so often catches right wing women posting stuff about "Gosh I was shocked to find how terrible some of the men in our movement are to us! What's going on!" posts or tweets.

And this sounds like a thing entirely made up of those people.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

DaveSauce posted:

Wow, so instead of dismissing the incel/redpill/whatever dipshits as the misogynistic cesspools of failed man-children they actually are, you're trying to make some sort of honest comparison between you and them. I feel like that instantly brings you down to their level.

Imagine that.....someone who identifies with a group like this having such low emotional intelligence that they don't understand they are a different flavor of the other low-emotional-intelligence-laden groups they are ragging on.

DaveSauce
Feb 15, 2004

Oh, how awkward.

Chomp8645 posted:

Some people really are gonna ride the conspiracy theory train no matter what, aren't they lol.

that sounds like something an incel who was running a misinformation campaign would say

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Licarn posted:

I touched something left outside in front of my house and I think I may have invited something into my home. What do I do?

That entire subreddit is just shooting fish in a barrel for thread content.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
the vikings were dickheads :colbert:

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Fatkraken posted:

the vikings were dickheads :colbert:

They did a lot of looting and plundering.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

ancient people were dickheads, more news at 11

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

Chomp8645 posted:

It's ok. You don't have to invent reasons or excuses for them. There doesn't need to be any. They're just women who are stupid and self-destructive. That's fine. There are men who are just stupid and self-destructive, many of them in fact. There doesn't need to be an excuse for why someone is in FDS anymore than there needs to be one for a redpiller or whatever.

I’m not trying to make excuses, but I guess it’s hard to come to terms with the idea that some people just wake up with the most idiotic and backwards ideas towards the opposite sex and then go on to spread their views like some horrible disease.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

hawowanlawow posted:

ancient people were dickheads, more news at 11

not all of them

mainly the ones that survived to write about it

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Mozi posted:

not all of them

mainly the ones that survived to write about it

RIP the minoans

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

hawowanlawow posted:

RIP the minoans

yah we need some of that fashion revival IMO

Lucid Nonsense
Aug 6, 2009

Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day
I'm confused. I've traced my genealogy back to vikings that invaded England. Do I need to get a swastika tattoo now?

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

The Vikings were probably not any more violent than other other group in that era, they were just both better at it, pagans and also super into looting church property so it was a big deal to the monks who did all the writing back then.

an overdue owl
Feb 26, 2012

hoot


Smirking_Serpent posted:

someone said that dude was looking for a partner in a concentration camp fantasy so i went digging through his post history. I didn't find it, because there are pages and pages of him talking about political compass memes.

he's an authoritarian centrist

it was actually there pretty recently in his post history but i see he's deleted it now (maybe after it was pointed out. so perhaps he does have....shame?) also maybe be thankful you didn't have to read it.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

all this Viking talk is tainting the thread

what will people think???

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Whoria Discordia posted:


AWALT and other incel-y mantras need to die already.


Pretty sure walt and everyone on that island were dead the whole time.

What the hell is awalt?

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

I've been thinking about the FDS / tradwife training sub and there are just too many posters in there for it to be populated with women. It almost certainly got its start as a redpill hive. No doubt there are going to be true believers in there but I refuse to believe there are that many online women who are genuinely interested in going down that path. The only women who really seem into this thing are ones who are using that as their spin on the great right grift.

My current theory is that there is a core of redpillers who started it and are keeping mum about it, some true believers and then a bunch of the previously mentioned grinders trying to make it into the inner sanctum.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


It's a fetish

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Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Inceltown posted:

No doubt there are going to be true believers in there but I refuse to believe there are that many online women who are genuinely interested in going down that path.

There many millions of people on the internet. Not sure if you knew this!

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