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Interesting. I wonder if they factor in other metrics to determine the true "value" of a show or movie. I'm sure there's a strong correlation between streaming views and value, but there are probably some shows that are widely watched but not "I'd pay money for this streaming service to have access to this show" (like a Sopranos or GoT for HBO), and others that people would definitely pony up money for. Anything that generates repeat views from the same accounts probably would have a strong correlation with something people would pay for.
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Dec 22, 2019 17:06
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Zwabu posted:Interesting. I wonder if they factor in other metrics to determine the true "value" of a show or movie. I'm sure there's a strong correlation between streaming views and value, but there are probably some shows that are widely watched but not "I'd pay money for this streaming service to have access to this show" (like a Sopranos or GoT for HBO), and others that people would definitely pony up money for. Supposedly Netflix's main metric is "how many accounts watched this season to completion within a month of release", for whatever that's worth.
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Dec 22, 2019 17:10
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There's a bunch of research saying people play videogames for like 3 hours then maybe just stop and I wonder how many metrics they're sitting on going "Witcher was the most watched show!" but only like 1/4 of the audience made it to the end. That terrible Hulu show The Awesomes got around this by giving you the first minute of the next episode as a stinger so when the autoplay queued it you were like "oh lets see where this goes".
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Dec 22, 2019 17:18
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I enjoyed the heck out of this show and I have a few thoughts on it. Acting was phenomenal. Standout was Homelander of course, but Stilwell also played off him well. The only actor I didn't really like was that CIA agent (Not-Mallory), she had a weird affect all the time. Also I find Kimiko's backstory contrived as hell, they didn't need to make her Japanese who was pressed into some south-east asian guerilla movement, just make her south-east asian like the rest of the guys in the basement. The final episode was great, Hughie getting tackled out of nowhere was hilarious, and despite all that, he thoroughly rejected Butcher's philosophy by making the strange decision to save A-Train's life. In a deeply cynical show, Hughie did something very strange and human, something I would never have done but Annie would. Another interesting scene that I really liked was when the director deliberately hid Stilwell's reaction to finding out Homelander was the one distributing V to terrorists. It was an interesting way of building dramatic tension then playing with audience expectations.
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Dec 25, 2019 22:05
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Rise, thread, RIIIISE! (Casting spoilers for those who haven't followed news about the show much) https://ew.com/tv/the-boys-season-2-aya-cash-stormfront-photos/ The belt buckle. mcbexx fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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Mar 9, 2020 20:15
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That casting is fantastic.
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Mar 9, 2020 20:25
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Oooooh I really like the idea of the S2’s antagonist locking horns with the S1 chief antagonist like an anime
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Mar 9, 2020 20:41
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Can't fuckin wait for S2, this was just about my surprise hit of the year
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Mar 9, 2020 21:11
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Not really sure if changing what was essentially an alt-right nazi superhero into something else (anything else) is really the best idea in this day and age...but I guess they are going for something completely different anyway for the character. S2 is probably going to be wildly different from the comic, plot wise.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:29
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I'm sure they'll make her into some gigantic TERF or something regardless.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:49
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Panfilo posted:I'm sure they'll make her into some gigantic TERF or something regardless. The article mentioned her having "old-fashioned values" so I'm sure it'll be something like that, too.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:52
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That Italian Guy posted:Not really sure if changing what was essentially an alt-right nazi superhero into something else (anything else) is really the best idea in this day and age...but I guess they are going for something completely different anyway for the character. S2 is probably going to be wildly different from the comic, plot wise. The comic loving sucks so anything that indicates they're changing the comic is a good sign. Bust Rodd posted:Oooooh I really like the idea of the S2’s antagonist locking horns with the S1 chief antagonist like an anime Give Hughie a gundam
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Mar 10, 2020 00:54
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Get in the Evangelion Huey!
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Mar 10, 2020 00:58
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I'm betting she's going to be modeled off the Laurens and gun girl (
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Mar 10, 2020 05:30
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She's called Stormfront and has an iron eagle on her belt buckle. She's absolutely a nazi.
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Mar 10, 2020 09:09
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That Italian Guy posted:Not really sure if changing what was essentially an alt-right nazi superhero into something else (anything else) is really the best idea in this day and age...but I guess they are going for something completely different anyway for the character. S2 is probably going to be wildly different from the comic, plot wise. Have you seen that belt buckle? I don't think they changed Stormfront as much as you think. I have a feeling those weird clamps around her upper arms with the american flag will come off to reveal something else at some dramatic moment.
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Mar 10, 2020 09:55
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kanonvandekempen posted:Have you seen that belt buckle? I don't think they changed Stormfront as much as you think. I have a feeling those weird clamps around her upper arms with the american flag will come off to reveal something else at some dramatic moment. Yeah I guess they're just trying to be coy about the character in the interview with what they choose to put the spotlight on.
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Mar 10, 2020 10:42
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"we regret to inform you Stormfront is now a communist"
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Mar 10, 2020 10:48
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Alan Smithee posted:"we regret to inform you Stormfront is now a communist" I mean we are still missing Love Sausage...
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Mar 10, 2020 11:11
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Open Source Idiom posted:She's called Stormfront and has an iron eagle on her belt buckle. She's absolutely a nazi. Check out her Stars n' Stripes armbands. She's nazi as gently caress.
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Mar 10, 2020 11:14
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They don’t wanna go “SHES A NAZI” in the adverts because that attracts a very specific type of buzz and attention on the internet and has a tendency to consume or overshadow the show. They want people to tune in because they like the show, not because it’s got some topical meme “flavor-of-the-month” social issue at play. It shows restraint on their part.
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Mar 10, 2020 12:05
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Amazon was apparently really awkward about the attention that The Man In The High Castle got, hence wrapping that show up so fast and it might explain why they commissioned Hunters. Maybe they wanted to avoid the public attention that a satirical (but ironic) representation of a literal nazi ubermensch might bring.
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Mar 10, 2020 12:42
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couldn't they have made Stormfront an incel nazi bitchboy wait no then you get kylo ren and all the prison love letters that come with it
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Mar 10, 2020 12:46
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Alan Smithee posted:couldn't they have made Stormfront an incel nazi bitchboy It would honestly be totally loving amazing if the route they took was Stormfront’s secret identity is a whiny Incel who literally becomes a Nazi Stacy as their superpower
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Mar 10, 2020 13:09
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Open Source Idiom posted:Maybe they wanted to avoid the public attention that a satirical (but ironic) representation of a literal nazi ubermensch might bring. They already have this in Homelander. Maybe they got a bit shocked at how he's such a popular character and now need to do a Walter White by introducing a literal nazi antagonist for him.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:30
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I know it’s splitting hairs but I don’t need my “murderous rapist and child killer” to also be a Nazi in order to hate them, and I didn’t get any Nazi vibes from him.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:31
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Bust Rodd posted:I know it’s splitting hairs but I don’t need my “murderous rapist and child killer” to also be a Nazi in order to hate them, and I didn’t get any Nazi vibes from him. Everything about Homelander evokes strong fascist energy, down to his name.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:41
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Homelander could broadly be described as a fascist but honestly he operates at such a simple level that even fascism is too deep for him. He is a maniacal child-god who murders for sport and doesn't really care what other people do as long as the masses applaud while he cheerfully executes people. When they talk about Stormfront coming in and disrupting the Seven I'm guessing that pushing an explicitly fascist agenda is going to be part of that. Homelander's brand is more rah-rah goodfeels nationalism, and while he's ok with the casual fascism that engenders (again, he doesn't care about people anyhow) he is not going to be happy about someone using the Seven to promote divisive and controversial opinions.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:49
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OG stormfront is a Thor/Shazam expy on The Boys Avengers spoof team so genderswapping them makes me wonder if they're a Captain Marvel now.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:53
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Cage Kicker posted:Everything about Homelander evokes strong fascist energy, down to his name. You have to remember that not everyone spends all day, every day, online talking about politics and fascism and the alt-right. Fascism doesn’t immediately spring to everyone’s minds whenever an evil blonde man is talking.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:57
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Cage Kicker posted:Everything about Homelander evokes strong fascist energy, down to his name. To be honest, he is correct to consider himself superior.
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Mar 10, 2020 13:57
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Bust Rodd posted:You have to remember that not everyone spends all day, every day, online talking about politics and fascism and the alt-right. Fascism doesn’t immediately spring to everyone’s minds whenever an evil blonde man is talking. Yeah, mostly they just think "it's dementia, isn't it? And that hair is a wig."
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Mar 10, 2020 14:51
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Bust Rodd posted:I know it’s splitting hairs but I don’t need my “murderous rapist and child killer” to also be a Nazi in order to hate them, and I didn’t get any Nazi vibes from him. Give this another watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCcOCiQ6Ej0
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massive spider posted:OG stormfront is a Thor/Shazam expy on The Boys Avengers spoof team so genderswapping them makes me wonder if they're a Captain Marvel now. Isn't Thor a woman now? I don't really follow Marvel comics, but I think I remember people freaking out about that. Also I think the whole "Stormfront is going to disrupt the Seven" is cause she's simply going to be Vought's foil to Homelander, now that he is going rogue-ish. Gus Frings is going to bring her in to try and control him now that Stillwell is dead, COMIC BOOK SPOILER since Stormfront is the only "believable" threat to Homelander if they have completely changed the whole Black Noir plot, maybe swapping it with Homelander Jr.
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Mar 10, 2020 15:28
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Bust Rodd posted:You have to remember that not everyone spends all day, every day, online talking about politics and fascism and the alt-right. Fascism doesn’t immediately spring to everyone’s minds whenever an evil blonde man is talking. Bad guy in cinema or TV = nazi imagery isnt a big leap for even the most politics averse watcher. The Avengers even had a cringy line where loki gets called a literally Hitler.
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Mar 10, 2020 16:30
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PostNouveau posted:The comic loving sucks so anything that indicates they're changing the comic is a good sign. "The Boys: The TV Show" is basically "What if 'The Boys: The Comic Book' had a ruthless and omnipotent editor to slice away all the poo poo Ennis never grew out of"
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Mar 10, 2020 16:31
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Pattonesque posted:"The Boys: The TV Show" is basically "What if 'The Boys: The Comic Book' had a ruthless and omnipotent editor to slice away all the poo poo Ennis never grew out of" The Boys was the ultimate expression of Ennis's hate boner for superheroes. The main theme is "with great power comes no responsibility, because who the gently caress can hold you responsible?" The supes are all sexual deviants and druggies because the people in power in the real world are sexual deviants and druggies. Not to say that Ennis hasn't written hosed up poo poo because he likes being edgy, but all the most extreme stuff in The Boys is being done by characters who never had to grow up.
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Mar 10, 2020 17:24
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It cannot be overstated how bad the comic is. I bought the first volume after the show because usually I don't hate stuff as much as many people online but woof, it's real bad. Makes me never want to go back and read Preacher again.
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Mar 10, 2020 17:31
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The tv show is light years better than the comic. The comic is so bad it made me wait to hear reviews of the show before I even bothered to give it a chance, and it was free on amazon, and I've seen some poo poo movies on amazon prime video.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:13
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I'm sure my posts about how much I was dreading the show are somewhere in this thread. The comics are so goddamned bad and I didn't expect much from the show. But then the casting started and I decided to give it a chance. Glad I did as it ruled and Anthony Starr is the best. Edit: my posts are likely in the TV chat thread or the bSS tv thread, not here.
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