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kastein posted:Isn't God supposed to protect his chosen from this kind of thing? dont be a dick, i thought it was interesting
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I'm glad poo poo is getting cancelled, corona is going to go, uh, viral whatever we do, but the response definitely matters. https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation This played out with the 1918 flu pandemic where St. Louis cancelled events early but Philly went ahead with their annual doorknob licking contest: https://twitter.com/ionarts/status/1237802716266729472/photo/1 e: basically I'm saying don't get nervous when everything's cancelled redgubbinz fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Mar 12, 2020 |
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InitialDave posted:I'd rather be here than in the US, and the travel ban doesn't apply to the UK or Ireland as we're not in the Schengen free travel grouping. Right, because the 2 Grand is worth potentially infecting my immune-compromised mother and being a vector for my community. It's all cancelled, insurance/refund be damned. I'm fortunate that I can take the financial hit (I already paid for it). I'm more concerned about my elderly friends, customers, and the general health of the nation. My industry will likely see huge cutbacks. My wife plays in 2 local orchestras, mostly comprised of and attended by the elderly. My vacation isn't important in the least. It's the wealthy and average American thinking that this doesn't apply to them that's going to make this crisis much much worse.
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I'm very lucky. My wife already works primarily from home and my employer is going to have a compensation program for people who get hit with this poo poo. So if I get it I will still have some income coming in so she doesn't have to cover everything.
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sharkytm posted:Right, because the 2 Grand is worth potentially infecting my immune-compromised mother and being a vector for my community. It's all cancelled, insurance/refund be damned. I'm fortunate that I can take the financial hit (I already paid for it). I'm more concerned about my elderly friends, customers, and the general health of the nation. Also you mentioned Virgin Atlantic, and they have sent out an email saying they'll allow rescheduling of flights to other dates without charge, so it's worth checking if that applies to US-originating bookings as well.
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I have tickets for the race this weekend (St.Pete Grand Prix) and if they don't cancel it I'm not sure if I'll go or not.....Guess we'll see how it goes until Sunday.
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COBRA meetings sound all dynamic and "get poo poo done" until you find it out means cabinet office briefing room A
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Denmark was shut down completely last night. Daycare, school, university, non-essential public employees (of which there are close to a million), all sent home. Private businesses urged to do the same, and everywhere I hear, people are being asked to work from home. I hope it works and it's the right thing to do, but man, some sectors are going to be soooo hosed, financially.
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InitialDave posted:Don't be a dick. You were posting regarding the travel ban, and I was pointing out it doesn't apply to the UK. technically correct is the best kind of correct! you generally get your money back on US airlines at this point (as credit, not cash, but on DL its very flexible), but there's of course a lot of other cost that may not be refundable.
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cakesmith handyman posted:COBRA meetings sound all dynamic and "get poo poo done" until you find it out means cabinet office briefing room A beats the poo poo out of the other kind of COBRA meeting bolind posted:I hope it works and it's the right thing to do, but man, some sectors are going to be soooo hosed, financially. less concerned about "sectors" - if a bunch of companies take a profit hit it's not the end of the world to the extent that it doesn't affect employees. balance sheet and financials in isolation, who gives a gently caress. companies are sitting on more cash than ever so that's not so concerning. i'm much more concerned about vulnerable people who are unemployed/underemployed/don't have health insurance/aren't in a job where they can work from home because those people are the most likely to get and be harmed by getting COVID-19
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:beats the poo poo out of the other kind of COBRA meeting UHC here, and rather good workers' rights, but still, I realize my cushy salaried position where I can just be a keyboard warrior somewhere else does not constitute the average, and there are some people who are hosed if they can't earn money.
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bolind posted:UHC here, and rather good workers' rights, but still, I realize my cushy salaried position where I can just be a keyboard warrior somewhere else does not constitute the average, and there are some people who are hosed if they can't earn money. oh yeah no doubt it's far better in denmark WHAT WITH YOUR ANTI FREEDOM COMMUNISM, i'm mostly referring to right here in good ole 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:technically correct is the best kind of correct! you generally get your money back on US airlines at this point (as credit, not cash, but on DL its very flexible), but there's of course a lot of other cost that may not be refundable.
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Looks like the race is gonna get canceled, oh well. NHL is getting ready to cancel their season as well.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:beats the poo poo out of the other kind of COBRA meeting I want to hear about how we're going to defeat the JOES
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Rhyno posted:I'm very lucky. My wife already works primarily from home and my employer is going to have a compensation program for people who get hit with this poo poo. So if I get it I will still have some income coming in so she doesn't have to cover everything. So far the only thing my employer has announced is anyone with symptoms must stay home until symptom-free for at least 48 hours, and janitorial stuff has been ramped way up. And any personal air or train (dafuq) travel has to be cleared with management for at least a couple of months. That's personal travel - business travel (even for the C levels) has been eliminated except by personal vehicle for the foreseeable future. I missed a full week when I had the flu, that stung the wallet pretty hard. I went in right at open this morning to grab some groceries, and only saw one overnighter still there. Ran into my boss, asked if they had a really small truck or ???. He said we got shorted a few thousand cases by the two warehouses that we get 95% of our stuff from. For reference, a 7 foot tall pallet of nothing but canned goods is about ~300-400 cases (and 2500-3000 lbs). An equally packed pallet of paper is only about 30-50. Chemical (cleaning, laundry, etc) is probably 100 cases for a pallet, but normally only 6 ft high. Canned goods, TP, and cleaning aisles were looking pretty bare, water was full though. We got the tallest can pallet I've ever seen a few days ago (it barely cleared the door on the trailer, and grazed the doorframe from receiving to the sales floor). 2/3 of it went to the shelf, the rest got run through the rest of the day (the remains were gone when I went in the next night). For reference, those stairs behind it go to the roof; that landing is ~9-10 ft off the ground. We haven't had any significant can pallets since.  I present... Mt. CornBean 
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Looks like the race is gonna get canceled, oh well. Amazingly F1 isnt canned as yet. Yet being the operative word.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Amazingly F1 isnt canned as yet. f1 being incompetent and valuing profits over X? wow who could have ever foreseen this InitialDave posted:It's not about being technically correct for dick waving, it's an important distinction with regard to how you're covered for losses - if you cancel on government advice not to travel, you generally do get covered by your insurance, and what Sharky was saying came across like he was cancelling because of the travel ban. you're assuming that sharky is carrying travel insurance. most people don't buy that poo poo in the US anyway
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I'm interested to see if the trade show my company is planning to go to in Germany will still be held, or if the travel ban will still be in place on May 1. Their website says that as of now it's still on. We just spent $25k to build a prototype machine for the show, and we're scrambling to get a couple of the parts out of China. I was worried we wouldn't get the parts on time but now it may not matter.
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InitialDave posted:Also you mentioned Virgin Atlantic, and they have sent out an email saying they'll allow rescheduling of flights to other dates without charge, so it's worth checking if that applies to US-originating bookings as well. Applebees Appetizer posted:I have tickets for the race this weekend (St.Pete Grand Prix) and if they don't cancel it I'm not sure if I'll go or not.....Guess we'll see how it goes until Sunday.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Versus Delta who sent out an email that basically said "we're cleaning our planes better, keep flying". We'll see if they eventually follow the other airlines and allow changes and cancellations. I got that from Frontier and United as well. Alaska let my dad (He's 82) cancel his April trip to visit me and refunded his ticket.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Amazingly F1 isnt canned as yet. McLaren's out though... https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1238062852306583552?s=20
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I’m stuck in an overcapacity hospital for at least another 3 weeks, And just got another infusion of immune suppressants so I’m already dead, rip
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Well poo poo.
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good luck powershift. Wife is a Peds NP at a pediatrician's office and oldest is immunosuppressed. Frankly, I'm stunned that I'm not having full blown panic attacks, though I'm not far off. We're still trying to get Strep out of the house, what's another infection?
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slidebite posted:^^ Long ways away from September boss, wait a little. Although, if you cancel now with no charge, you might get a kick-rear end rate if you rebook! That's a thought. The travel/destination industry is going to be *hurting* in a few months. slidebite posted:^^ My wife wants to go to Disneyland, and I've never been so I'd entertain the idea personally. I want to go to whichever Disney it is that has the Star Wars stuff, because I want to fly the Falcon. I'm not even a huge SW nerd, but enough of one. And my wife wants to take our daughter (who is now 18... so a little late.) Guess that will be even later, now (not that we had a trip planned before this.) IOwnCalculus posted:Injected, inspected, detected, infected, neglected and selected? Now go over there and sit on the "Group W" bench. Powershift posted:I’m stuck in an overcapacity hospital for at least another 3 weeks, And just got another infusion of immune suppressants so I’m already dead, rip Jesus, that seems like bad timing, but I assume it's unavoidable. God speed and good luck, I guess.
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Good luck, Powershift. I've been stocking up over the past 3 weeks and I'm ready to just pull the ripcord and take the family underground for a few weeks. Congress was just briefed that the US has tested 11,000 people IN TOTAL. South Korea is testing that number PER DAY. We are being directly lied to by our government and, while the virus itself isn't going to cripple us, horrible mismanagement of the situation just may. I'm not normally reactionary, but this combination of an actual situation needing immediate response, paired with our government's ostrich reply is honestly frightening.
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Seems like a crap idea seeing as his primary demographics are the ones that are most likely to be killed by it
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Grakkus posted:Seems like a crap idea seeing as his primary demographics are the ones that are most likely to be killed by it I doubt he cares. He doesn't care about the little guy, he never has. He cares about rich people and hurting brown people.
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Darchangel posted:That's a thought. The travel/destination industry is going to be *hurting* in a few months. I've already heard talk of bailouts for airlines, oil companies, and cruise ships Seriously though, good luck to those in vulnerable populations and your at risk loved ones. Hopefully we've caught on fast enough and can slow the spread enough to keep everyone safe
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I’d love to work from home but I physically drive to about 10-12 customers a day, count their inventory, and restock their shelves and cabinets. If I’m not working there’s no money coming in to pay the bills. We are a 2 person company with low inventory and low cash. If we have to sit around for a couple of weeks, it will hurt really bad financially speaking. I also don’t want to be responsible for spreading disease so if we have to stop for a short period of time I guess that’s what we’ll have to do.
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Powershift posted:I’m stuck in an overcapacity hospital for at least another 3 weeks, And just got another infusion of immune suppressants so I’m already dead, rip Goodluck! meatpimp posted:
Which has been out in the open and the norm since this administration. You can't rely on the government to do the right thing, it's on your shoulders to fend for you and your loved ones. The Door Frame posted:I've already heard talk of bailouts for airlines, oil companies, and cruise ships Meanwhile we'll foot the loving bill just like two thousand and loving eight.
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cursedshitbox posted:Meanwhile we'll foot the loving bill just like two thousand and loving eight. Business: Capitalist when making money, socialist when losing money.
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Get well and healthy Powershift!kastein posted:Isn't God supposed to protect his chosen from this kind of thing? I expect a higher effort post than this one. My co-worker just left for Disneyland this week. It is apparently a ghost town and I would be lying if I didn't say that it is a tempting prospect. Maybe with everyone staying indoors that means they will buy more RC stuff from me and since I generally plan out for long lead times and stock heavy sales can be good to me? (it probably won't).
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The US Senate is not going to vote on the House coronavirus bill until they return from recess on March 23rd, assuming they even return from recess. The incompetence of the US govt is stunning, I'd hope that's reflected in the polls come November but if that requires an informed electorate, it's not going to happen.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Versus Delta who sent out an email that basically said "we're cleaning our planes better, keep flying". We'll see if they eventually follow the other airlines and allow changes and cancellations. We've cancelled our trip out west next month because I'm not getting near an airport until this poo poo is under control. delta sent that email to encourage people to keep flying but they've also been allowing changes and cancellations for like two weeks. you have to call them, though - not on app.
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meatpimp posted:I've been stocking up over the past 3 weeks and I'm ready to just pull the ripcord and take the family underground for a few weeks.  I haven't been watching the stupid TV box much (though definitely more than usual), but there's been some posts on reddit that go into a lot more detail about what's going on at the government level, from who seem to be well-educated people. They haven't been trying to scare people, just providing numbers. I also work for the oldest, most well known grocery retailer in Texas we even have our own subreddit, I've talked to people in other stores and markets through that terrible website, throwing poo poo on shelves every night. I have a front row seat on what is and isn't showing up on trucks. My manager has shared with me what we can't get right now but should have in a week or so, what we won't get soon, and what we probably won't see for at least a month. I'm as far as it gets from being a prepper (I mean FFS I don't even buy TP until it's too late - I once bought a plunger 5 minutes before close at a grocery store when I clogged a dorm toilet, cashier asked how my day was, I said "lovely" and pointed at the plunger... at least I got a chuckle out of the cashier), but I'm a little concerned.
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