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Agent355 posted:I guess I'll just use the mod that freezes all quest timers before I finish then, kind of a silly oversight. You have more time than you need by quite a bit as long as you're using teleportation circles. IIRC there are also more bosses tied to that quest than you need to complete it so you don't need to hunt every one down either. ChrisBTY posted:Hello. I tried to start playing this game. Got as far as finishing making a character only for Cindered Shadows to come out. I am juuuuust about burned out on Fire Emblem and am wondering if there are any resources available for me to skip 'trap' class builds. I made a magus but I didn't know what weapon to specialize in. I went dueling sword since I figured those would key off dex rather than str but really hell if I know. Magus is a good class. You can use your spells to rocket up your survivability. I think the main build for Magus is to go for crit-fishing using improved critical so you crit 1/4th of the time when you hit and try to get crits from spell-strikes. Shocking grasp seems to be the main spell for this.
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ChrisBTY posted:Hello. I tried to start playing this game. Got as far as finishing making a character only for Cindered Shadows to come out. I am juuuuust about burned out on Fire Emblem and am wondering if there are any resources available for me to skip 'trap' class builds. I made a magus but I didn't know what weapon to specialize in. I went dueling sword since I figured those would key off dex rather than str but really hell if I know. If you're true neutral the Devoted Blade arcana will do nothing. Try to avoid too much multiclassing as a Magus. Magus is one of the classes that can skip Improved Critical since you can use your Arcane weapon bonus to make any weapon Keen.
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So everyone has seen the main Concept art of the Angel and the team fighting against the Balor, right?
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Why are they defending the Balor from the bad imps while ignoring the clearly overpowered spellcaster about to murder the poor guy?
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ChrisBTY posted:Hello. I tried to start playing this game. Got as far as finishing making a character only for Cindered Shadows to come out. I am juuuuust about burned out on Fire Emblem and am wondering if there are any resources available for me to skip 'trap' class builds. I made a magus but I didn't know what weapon to specialize in. I went dueling sword since I figured those would key off dex rather than str but really hell if I know. Here are two builds/guides for melee-magic type characters. He also has a guide for Regongar as a Magus that should work on your PC just as well. https://www.gog.com/forum/pathfinder_kingmaker/ineffects_guide_v2/post32 https://www.gog.com/forum/pathfinder_kingmaker/ineffects_guide_v2/post41 This guy's builds are very much min-max types of builds and a bit OP but you do get to feel crazy strong much earlier than you'd expect. Agent355 posted:At the very least murdering things and exploring areas is something I would be doing anyway and I can get a list off the internet. It could be worse. They actually are pretty generous with how much time you have to finish everything. In Chapter 1 I went to every map and explored every cranny and beat every fight and I still had like 45 days left. In later chapters, I am likewise thorough but waste even more time travelling and revisiting areas. Still, mucho time. I'm not shy with the resting and still have more time than I've needed to explore the whole available map. Often have to just "skip days" in the kingdom menu, sometimes a week at a time. At the end of chapter 3/4 you have almost a couple years of free time depending on how fast you finish up the main story quest for that chapter. I think you'd have to deliberately try to run out of time, I am glacial. 185 hours and haven't started chapter 5 yet... Mulva posted:robo lore That's actually something I can get into. I'm starting to really dig pathfinder. I loved 3.5 in videogame form but never played in PnP. Pathfinder just seems superior, period. A coworker of mine is getting interested too, we are both especially interested in having witch available to us.
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Khanstant posted:185 hours and haven't started chapter 5 yet... What the gently caress
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How long is this loving game?
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Der Shovel posted:Question, though: my current main mission objective is to "wait until the fog clears". Will it be obvious when that happens? I'm suddenly hell of worried about the passing of time locking me out of stuff. The fog doesn't clear with time, an event will do that. It will be obvious. Follow what threads ya got. Also the time limit for chapter 1 is super generous and there are no negative repercussions for handing in the quest with 1 minute left on the clock so feel free to explore and dilly dally (the only reason to beeline the main quest is if you're an Aldori duelist, and even then it's a pretty bad reason). Just be aware that *some* of the available exploration spots can be a little bit rape-y at low levels. Further into the game, time usually doesn't lock you out of stuff, but order of operations can (ie whichever crisis you tackle first might cause stuff to happen due to another crisis you didn't pursue ; and vice versa)
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You can use Bag of Tricks to break alignment rules right? Because I want to play a monk but gently caress being lawful
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Blockhouse posted:You can use Bag of Tricks to break alignment rules right? Because I want to play a monk but gently caress being lawful I haven't tried it myself, but if I remember correctly there is an option for ignoring class prerequisites.
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Blockhouse posted:You can use Bag of Tricks to break alignment rules right? Because I want to play a monk but gently caress being lawful You can. I did a monk dip on my neutral good Sword Saint.
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Blockhouse posted:You can use Bag of Tricks to break alignment rules right? Because I want to play a monk but gently caress being lawful Being lawful is actually great fun and more people should do it Kingmaker was fun because, much like all of my D&D sessions, I was the only person playing LG among a party of neutrals and chaotics
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JamMasterJim posted:So everyone has seen the main Concept art of the Angel and the team fighting against the Balor, right? Which one's the angel?
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Avalerion posted:Which one's the angel? It's the first promotional image they released. 
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Cynic Jester posted:Why are they defending the Balor from the bad imps while ignoring the clearly overpowered spellcaster about to murder the poor guy? 
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The last celebration update. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/posts/2781612 For those who want to manage their pledge or pay with paypal, backer portal and such will open by the end of the month. Closed Alpha in April.
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More gameplay from PAX, with the most interesting bit probably being an encounter with Arueshalae in prison very early in the video - I'm going to go out on a limb and say she escapes offscreen even if you don't release her. Also the actual conversation after that whole Balor encounter is at the end of the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYQEGxU9Kro&t=451s
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Started playing this game last night, turn-based mod on. Pretty good so far, just got through the intro area. But anyone know of a mod or game setting that eliminates these terrible medieval font Drop Caps at the beginning of every goddamn word and name to increase readability?
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AngryBooch posted:Started playing this game last night, turn-based mod on. Pretty good so far, just got through the intro area. But anyone know of a mod or game setting that eliminates these terrible medieval font Drop Caps at the beginning of every goddamn word and name to increase readability? That's so needed ! Sometimes I wonder who that 'Miri' girl is I keep seeing on my screen ... I just started the game myself a week ago, how did I miss this gem for so long ? I think I confused pathfinder with some other ruleset, never knew it was a 3.5 D&D clone or I would been all over it. I thought it was some everything-goes ruleset with little structure, can't think of the name anymore.. I really like the combat (with turn based mod, of course), and I love the city building as well. It all makes sense once you figure out that you got to do quests in the reverse order you normally play a CRPG. Always finish the main quest first (except chapter 1), then there is lots of time for sidequest stuff, time delays and city building.
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As much as people have hated on the kingdom management aspect of the game, I really enjoy it. I like the RP potential for playing as a fledgling lord trying to bring order to chaos and that I'm forced to make choices on priorities. Do I focus on building up existing territories, or do I spend my resources on expanding to new areas? Do I repair the road to Brevoy or do I sign a trade deal? Once I got it into my head that it isn't a race to clear the stack of project cards but rather decide what is important to my character, it felt a lot less stressful and more enjoyable. The one complaint I have is that BP income is less direct; I can't build farms or industries and just get BP, I have to build stuff, then upgrade advisors to increase my BP income. That ends up making my baron run around murdering monsters and looting tombs to just help boost the treasury as the primary source of income.
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ChrisBTY posted:Hello. I tried to start playing this game. Got as far as finishing making a character only for Cindered Shadows to come out. I am juuuuust about burned out on Fire Emblem and am wondering if there are any resources available for me to skip 'trap' class builds. I made a magus but I didn't know what weapon to specialize in. I went dueling sword since I figured those would key off dex rather than str but really hell if I know. To chime in, I've been using basically a dex dueling sword magus via a custom party member, and it goddamn slaps. A lot of function crossover with Regongar, but  Griffen posted:The one complaint I have is that BP income is less direct; I can't build farms or industries and just get BP, I have to build stuff, then upgrade advisors to increase my BP income. That ends up making my baron run around murdering monsters and looting tombs to just help boost the treasury as the primary source of income. Yeah, I'm not super fond about how indirect a lot of the income feels. I mean, it's true to form for D&D (adventurers fueling stuff with found/sold loot has been a trope for ages and does amuse me to some degree :vv: ) but it does result in a slightly bigger disconnect than I think they were intending. Der Shovel posted:Question, though: my current main mission objective is to "wait until the fog clears". Will it be obvious when that happens? I'm suddenly hell of worried about the passing of time locking me out of stuff. As mentioned, you need to deal with all of the other major "Stolen Land" quests for the fog to clear (that generally being chasing down Tartuccio). Once that's done, head back to Oleg's, talk to the nymph, and you'll be able to head to the chapter end. And yes the three month limit is incredibly generous and you can easily do everything within the fog boundary before the time limit is up. Including Tranquil River Bend, if you're up for a challenge. 
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Kingdom Management is fiddly and mostly irrelevant, but it gives you something to do and generates a sense of time passing which helps make the world a little more believable. It's better than NWN2's stronghold management.
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I enjoyed the kingdom management too. I also like having time limitations in games to plan around (like Xcom 2) which seem to make a lot of people stress out and hate poo poo.
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Griffen posted:That ends up making my baron run around murdering monsters and looting tombs to just help boost the treasury as the primary source of income. I mean it worked for the Roman empire. ETA (for variable values of "worked")
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SpaceDrake posted:
Those frogs wrecked my poo poo except, ironically, the boss - he slipped on grease and then my enlarged warriors just beat him to death from a distance.
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You can finish all of it including tranquil in thirty days. Just remember to use grease and glitterdust
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Is there a mod anywhere that will let me change the bonuses on the wizard /sorceror familiars? I was going to pick Viper for the persuasion bonus BUT . . .the dog is ADORABLE so now I want the dog graphic with the viper bonus. Dogs are more likely to persuade people anyway!
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Is there a mod anywhere that will let me change the bonuses on the wizard /sorceror familiars? Seems like the sort of thing Bag of Tricks might let you do somewhere in the depths. Can't think of another mod off hand that'll do it.
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Cynic Jester posted:Seems like the sort of thing Bag of Tricks might let you do somewhere in the depths. Can't think of another mod off hand that'll do it. Bag of Tricks will let you directly edit bonuses to your character. You could just manually put a -2 to whatever dog gives you and a +2 to whatever you wanted from snake after choosing the dog and it would be effectively the same as a dog with snake bonuses.
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Arg, now I'm making a spreadsheet to plot out which feats my party members will take at which levels Good thing I'm spending my time at home productively
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grah posted:Bag of Tricks will let you directly edit bonuses to your character. You could just manually put a -2 to whatever dog gives you and a +2 to whatever you wanted from snake after choosing the dog and it would be effectively the same as a dog with snake bonuses. Yeah that works, thanks, it's really kludgy though. I feel like it should be possible to edit the "dog familiar" buff itself. Bag of Tricks lets me pull the code markers for it: code:Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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I figured that I might be able to farm an extra level in the Tenebrous Depths for my L18 party before going to Thousand Voices and what looks like endgame (I might actually finish this, finally, thanks to the quarantine), but man whatever algorithm decided to put SIX mandragora swarms in this one room on L14 can gently caress right off TYVM. Lucky it was a side path at least but I can't think of any possible loot they could put at the end of that branch that would be worth the reloads it would take to pull that off, except maybe some Bane of the Living-tier hand-placed super item. Also it looks like there actually WON'T be enough XP in this DLC to make a dent in what I need for L19, oh well. At least this weird theme build idea I had is working out (though I really hope Wrath brings in the Sanctified Slayer Inquisitor archetype so I can do it with fewer silly contortions and lost casting levels). Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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Report from my playthrough: okay yeah I changed my mind on kingdom management. It's a bit unfortunate that after Pitax it's clear that Owlbear ran out of game and rather than just reduce the number of chapters just added some filler and force you to sit through a couple of years of watching kingdom events. They should at least have done something with the narrative so that the characters think the story is over (but you know the game isn't) or something so there's a building sense of tension. Instead I'm just spinning wheels.
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Dallan Invictus posted:I figured that I might be able to farm an extra level in the Tenebrous Depths for my L18 party before going to Thousand Voices and what looks like endgame (I might actually finish this, finally, thanks to the quarantine), but man whatever algorithm decided to put SIX mandragora swarms in this one room on L14 can gently caress right off TYVM. Swarms are slow. Particularly with turn based it's pretty easy to kite them backwards while dropping slowing/aoe spells like Sirocco in their path until they're dead. Mandragora swarms have an obscene amount of health but aren't any different than any other swarm. I agree swarms are really annoying and poorly implemented in this game especially if you play rtwp, but they aren't actually that difficult to kill once you figure out their gimmick, and provided you have cleared out enough of the rest of the level to have space to retreat to.
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Dallan Invictus posted:Also it looks like there actually WON'T be enough XP in this DLC to make a dent in what I need for L19, oh well. At least this weird theme build idea I had is working out (though I really hope Wrath brings in the Sanctified Slayer Inquisitor archetype so I can do it with fewer silly contortions and lost casting levels). I don't think I would have even made it to 19 without my absurd Persuasion stat (ended up somewhere in the 60s before temporary buffs) and the XP you get from Persuasion checks.
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Wizard Styles posted:I finished the game with my main character at level 19 and I completed all the DLC and missed maybe two quests in the whole game. You either need to squeeze every possible XP opportunity (like xp gaisn from the persuasion checks you mentioned, doing the hardest checks in the rushlight tourney, doing every single quest and encounter including Ferniras, Ilthuliak, Surangamin priests) and you will hit 20 with the whole at the last few hours of the endgame OR you cheese it a bit. Turn XP gains from passing checks to solo instead of shared, do some quests with a smaller party and xp share off and hit 20 before House at the End of Fun. When your party rejoins you there, they will match your level, gaining 1 or 2 levels easily.
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Grapplejack posted:Being lawful is actually great fun and more people should do it Kingmaker is the first time I've tried a Lawful playthrough. Also my first time trying Evil. It's been a lot of fun and as far as I can tell Lawful Evil is literally just being a capitalist so it's been surprisingly easy to roleplay.
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FuzzySlippers posted:I enjoyed the kingdom management too. I also like having time limitations in games to plan around (like Xcom 2) which seem to make a lot of people stress out and hate poo poo. It's kind of crazy, I think it comes down to same thing wrt RtwP vs Turn Based. You are born and your body is assigned one of those preferences. It doesn't actually matter what the time limit is. If the time limit was "until heat death of the universe" there'd still be someone who booted up the game, noticed a timer, and they just run away forever immediately. The first time scientists noted this phenomena was Majora's Mask. 15% of players who they tested literally were unable to hear the explanation that the game isn't actually just a 3 day limit, their brains can only process terror and anxiety when confronted with an in-game clock. In the FEMA Death Camps any game with an in-game clock is forbidden, even games without timers that contain depictions of clocks.
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Khanstant posted:Kingmaker is the first time I've tried a Lawful playthrough. Also my first time trying Evil. It's been a lot of fun and as far as I can tell Lawful Evil is literally just being a capitalist so it's been surprisingly easy to roleplay. Lawful Evil and Lawful Neutral are my favorite alignments for villains and antagonists. Lawful Evil gets to act within or even use the law to gently caress over the players, and Lawful Neutral gets to be the guy that the PCs really hate but have to admit isn't actually doing anything wrong.
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JamMasterJim posted:You either need to squeeze every possible XP opportunity (like xp gaisn from the persuasion checks you mentioned, doing the hardest checks in the rushlight tourney, doing every single quest and encounter including Ferniras, Ilthuliak, Surangamin priests) and you will hit 20 with the whole at the last few hours of the endgame OR you cheese it a bit.
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