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Scalding Coffee posted:You did use items, right? Very occasionally 
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Gologle posted:I was thinking about what if Shinra was a real life company, so I came up with this stupid poo poo: I work in corporate marketing and this is disturbingly on point.
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Mar 20, 2020 20:41
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Now do Shinra's COVID-19 email.
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Mar 20, 2020 22:51
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"We're taking it day by day. OK back to work."
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Mar 20, 2020 23:24
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I was excited about this game until I saw just now that it wasn't going to be the full game. No way in hell am I buying this. Maybe I'll wait 2-3 years until you can get the complete story for 30 bucks
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Mar 20, 2020 23:56
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Gologle posted:I was thinking about what if Shinra was a real life company, so I came up with this stupid poo poo: Yeah that's pretty stupid
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Amarcarts posted:I was excited about this game until I saw just now that it wasn't going to be the full game. No way in hell am I buying this. Maybe I'll wait 2-3 years until you can get the complete story for 30 bucks It is the full game of part one or whatever. There's more content and it's all animated. I can understand from the demo why they're doing it like this.
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Mar 21, 2020 00:03
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Amarcarts posted:I was excited about this game until I saw just now that it wasn't going to be the full game. No way in hell am I buying this. Maybe I'll wait 2-3 years until you can get the complete story for 30 bucks it's a like 60 hour game lol
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I'm gonna get a bit rambly on why I think FF7R being split into parts is ok. The Lord of the Rings is one story. The physical limitations of books at the time made it impractical to bind and handle a book that long, so Tolkien split it into three books. Source: the foreword to The Lord of the Rings: One Ring Edition I bought on Kindle for $1 after waking up hungover New Years Day two years ago. Which was about all I read from it. While the original FF7 was delivered as one complete story, it was planned under the constraints of the hardware at the time, which was new and they were learning it. They were able adjust key things as development continued. It was originally going to take place in New York City. Clearly, that changed somewhere down the line. They had more freedom to be flexible. FF7R is being made under much different circumstances. Kind of an opposite set of circumstances from the original. The story is set in stone. It's a remake. They're working against what they made before and the idealized memories of people who've been playing it for twenty years. They're under a lot of pressure to make it as accurate as possible, but also make it feel fresh. It's late gen, so they know the technology really well and are pushing it to it's limits. The constraints of HD development mean they can either make it whole but not too detailed, or as detailed as possible but not whole. Square Enix has a reputation for being a graphics technology powerhouse, so they chose to make it as crazy detailed as possible. Which, in HD development, means large file sizes. Part 1 is already gonna be two blu-ray discs. The only other game I know that did that was Red Dead Redemption 2 (which wasn't a remake so they were able to create the story around the hardware). But the advantage of this approach means that they don't have to cut content or abridge anything. They're expanding on stuff. Going crazy with it. It's not episodic in a Tell Tale sense. They said each part will be as long as a typical Final Fantasy game. So I'm ok with this approach. It'll take longer to produce, sure, but at least it won't be a Final Fantasy XV situation, with gigantic patches happen post launch to drastically alter chapters of the game.
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Mar 21, 2020 01:08
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"if you're expecting to pick up three FF7Rs in two years for like $30 you're a big dummy" is my less nice take on it
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grieving for Gandalf posted:"if you're expecting to pick up three FF7Rs in two years for like $30 you're a big dummy" is my less nice take on it What do SE sales look like anyway, these days? Last I checked they liked to keep prices higher than I expected even for old old games.
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Mar 21, 2020 01:18
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aegof posted:What do SE sales look like anyway, these days? Last I checked they liked to keep prices higher than I expected even for old old games. Not as good as you'd like, generally.
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Mar 21, 2020 01:24
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Argh, I waited too long to pre-order the physical collectors edition in aus and now they're sold out. help
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Mar 21, 2020 01:26
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We're all gonna be dead of covid 19x2 electric boogaloo before this series of games is finished, so you may as well play the first one
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Mar 21, 2020 01:29
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aegof posted:What do SE sales look like anyway, these days? Last I checked they liked to keep prices higher than I expected even for old old games. They’ve been selling KH3 for dirt cheap.
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Mar 21, 2020 01:36
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ItBreathes posted:Not as good as you'd like, generally. I dunno FF15 Royal goes on sale for $15 a whole lot.
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Mar 21, 2020 04:52
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Their big games go down fast but poo poo that should have been $20 at most like the lovely Tokyo RPG Factory games seem to retain their value for much longer, presumably because they're digital only and aren't competing with physical sales.
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Detective No. 27 posted:While the original FF7 was delivered as one complete story, it was planned under the constraints of the hardware at the time, which was new and they were learning it. They were able adjust key things as development continued. It was originally going to take place in New York City. Clearly, that changed somewhere down the line. They had more freedom to be flexible.
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Jackard posted:Eh? Was it the same team that did Parasite Eve? A lot of the original ideas for FFVII are what would later become PE.
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Mar 21, 2020 05:27
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Sakurazuka posted:Their big games go down fast but poo poo that should have been $20 at most like the lovely Tokyo RPG Factory games seem to retain their value for much longer, presumably because they're digital only and aren't competing with physical sales. Yeah that's true enough. I know I got Nier for cheap too, and I just got Octopath Traveler for $30 a few days ago Talking of which though, god drat, Octopath Traveler is insanely good and it's sad that it's never gonna get a PS4 release
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Mar 21, 2020 05:28
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Release the game Square 
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And by a lot I mostly mean the setting and the cop thing but y'know
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Jackard posted:Eh? Was it the same team that did Parasite Eve? AFAIK, yes. FFVII originally started development in 1994 with the New York concept for the SNES. Then production halted to work on Chrono Trigger. Once that was done, they rejiggered the concept into Midgar, moved development to the PlayStation, and reused then NYC setting for Parasite Eve later on. esperterra posted:A lot of the original ideas for FFVII are what would later become PE. I can’t name anything specific, but I also want to say some concepts for the original FFVII ended up in Chrono Trigger as well.
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maaaaybe? CT came out one year after VI, and VII two years after CT. e: and if i remember right CT was Sakaguchi's brain baby as like an NES concept. if anything maybe VII reused some ideas that didn't make it into CT?
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Open Marriage Night posted:They’ve been selling KH3 for dirt cheap. You can also get All The Kingdom Hearts bundle for real cheap in a sale these days, so I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see FF7R Complete or w/e getting pretty cheap whenever that long road ends.
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Amarcarts posted:I was excited about this game until I saw just now that it wasn't going to be the full game. No way in hell am I buying this. Maybe I'll wait 2-3 years until you can get the complete story for 30 bucks Firstly: Where the gently caress have you been that you've only just found out that the game is going to be episodic? Secondly: Gya-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Amarcarts posted:Maybe I'll wait 2-3 years until you can get the complete story for 30 bucks I hate to tell you this, but-
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Mar 21, 2020 07:18
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part three on the ps5 pro is gonna look so sick. if earth still exists or whatever
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"The planet is dying, Cloud." -"I don't care." "No, I mean, for real, if we don't save the planet there won't be FF7R-2."
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esperterra posted:maaaaybe? CT came out one year after VI, and VII two years after CT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yN3JeFrfRQ Here’s a pretty good history of the ff7 development and it covers where some of the scrapped concept and ideas ended up
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I have not read Elentor’s LP, but with more time on my hands and the urge to take another dip in FF7, I’d appreciate a link to it 
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Iacen posted:I have not read Elentor’s LP, but with more time on my hands and the urge to take another dip in FF7, I’d appreciate a link to it It's in the OP!!
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Iacen posted:I have not read Elentor’s LP, but with more time on my hands and the urge to take another dip in FF7, I’d appreciate a link to it https://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-VII/
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Amarcarts posted:I was excited about this game until I saw just now that it wasn't going to be the full game. No way in hell am I buying this. Maybe I'll wait 2-3 years until you can get the complete story for 30 bucks 
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Terper posted:It's in the OP!! Sorry, I actually did look, but did not see it  Thanks, y'all!
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It's unfortunate that so many people seem to think that "episodic" means it will be released like episodes from games like The Walking Dead and Life Is Strange. They should have used a different word.
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GoGoGadget posted:It's unfortunate that so many people seem to think that "episodic" means it will be released like episodes from games like The Walking Dead and Life Is Strange. They should have used a different word. Well, technically, before any of those, there's the Dot Hack games, which were made by Cyberconnect 2 who was originally brought on to help development... until they were summarily shitcanned and all reference to development trouble they had with the game was wiped from the face of the internet with a bloody vengeance. And those games did all come out in basically the same year... buuuuuut also those games were way smaller, and less in scope. The person doing the LOTR comparison is on point.
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yN3JeFrfRQ GoGoGadget posted:It's unfortunate that so many people seem to think that "episodic" means it will be released like episodes from games like The Walking Dead and Life Is Strange. They should have used a different word.
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Hey, we only had to wait two years between Soul Reaver's "To Be Continued" ending and Soul Reaver 2
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Jackard posted:Wow so this is also where Xenogears came from Xenogears was originally pitched as FFVII but was rejected because it was too complex and dark for a Final Fantasy title (at the time). They were allowed to go ahead with it as a separate project though. After that, it was envisioned as a sequel to Chrono Trigger, but there was some kind of infighting with Square about that and Xenogears wound up as an original title instead. That's something else that I enjoy about VII. Some awesome game ideas spawned from it's early concept days.
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