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Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

That sucks, I wish I lived in a place where the only AMC wasn't a 30 minute drive away because A-list seems like a better deal overall than Cinemark's thing.

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
wasn't there a bunch of places converting to drive in

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

END ME SCOOB posted:

Hilariously, New Mutants conspicuously absent from all their rescheduling today unless I missed something

Who did that movie piss off at Disney

Disney wasn't the one who delayed it so much. Fox kept saying they wanted reshoots, but the actors were always busy and eventually aged up. When Disney got it they told the director they'll release it just as he originally wanted it to be released.

I figure it isn't on the schedule because they'll either rush it out when theaters open up again or put it on Disney Plus.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Alan Smithee posted:

wasn't there a bunch of places converting to drive in

Oh poo poo that's a thing that might get to open this month. Not sure if Dewine considers a movie theater where you don't leave your car a risk or not

Edit: still closed

Len fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Apr 4, 2020

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

END ME SCOOB posted:

Hilariously, New Mutants conspicuously absent from all their rescheduling today unless I missed something

Who did that movie piss off at Disney

I'm certain that they want to make New Mutants to be an establishing film for incorporating the X-Men into the MCU, so it has to come out in theaters and not get dumped onto Disney +.

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

New Mutants 2 will come out before New Mutants.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Crowetron posted:

X-Force will come out before New Mutants.

Fixed for you.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

IUG posted:

Fixed for you.

Didn't that already happen?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Crowetron posted:

New Mutants 2 will come out before New Mutants.

Just like Missing in Action! Good flicks

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

Casimir Radon posted:

I was referring to YA franchises that turned into abortive attempts at film series. The early 2000s was full of YA attempting to follow the Harry Potter formula. Alex Rider, one movie. A Series of Unfortunate Events, died after one film, redone on Netflix, don't know how that went. Percy Jackson, two movies then dead. The Golden Compass, toned down to try and appease dumb fundies, died after one film, ended on a cliffhanger, wasted an amazing cast, rebooted very well on the BBC. Divergent, three movies that kept getting worse and worse critical and commercial results before dying.

There were really two waves of failed book series movie adaptations, one after Harry Potter and LotR, and one after Twilight and Hunger Games. The first wave had movies like Inkheart, Eragon, and The Dark is Rising. The second wave had Beautiful Creatures, The 5th Wave, and I Am Number Four.

The Spiderwick Chronicles had only one movie in the first wave but I don't know if you'd call it a failure because it actually adapted the entire book series.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Crowetron posted:

New Mutants 2 will come out before New Mutants.

and it will feature no mutants

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Young Freud posted:

Didn't that already happen?


Deadpool 2 was supposed to lead into a separate X-Force movie. I'm not sure if the X-Force team from DP2 was going to somehow come back, or if it was going to be the end-of-movie "X-Force" team consisting of Deadpool, Cable, Colossus, Negasonic, Yukio, and Dopinder, but either way I would've been alright with it.

(I am a little sad about Shatterstar, though. He was one of the earliest explicitly gay characters in Marvel, is tied into some really wild X-Men stuff, and is generally a fun character.)

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



LONGSHOT MOVIE WHEN?!

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Mark my words. Disney+ marvel Saturday morning cartoons coming

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Alan Smithee posted:

and it will feature no mutants

Are you trying to tell us they mutated?

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
"Inhumans"?

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Alan Smithee posted:

Mark my words. Disney+ marvel Saturday morning cartoons coming

X-men is already on there, at least in Canada.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
But is there X-men...in cal arts style

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

The Ender series really goes off the rails after a while. I guess you could still adapt it, but you would probably have to take some, uh, "creative" liberties with the stuff OSC stuffed into the more recent novels.

Children of the Mind was the biggest, wettest fart completely independent of the awful socio-political content, which also made it bad.

Mywhatacleanturtle fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Apr 5, 2020

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


MechanicalTomPetty posted:

The Ender series really goes off the rails after a while. I guess you could still adapt it, but you would probably have to take some, uh, "creative" liberties with the stuff OSC stuffed into the more recent novels.
After a while, meaning the second book, which isn't filmable. I read Ender's Game for the first time at age eight or so. Somebody told my mom I'd probably like it. So most of the stuff about teaching kids to kill and genocide flew right over my head. Mom bought me Speaker For the Dead shortly after that and there wasn't a chance in hell of me understanding what was going on at that age.

Also Card is a homophobic whackjob who got his brain further screwed around by 9/11.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

iirc, Card said that if the US legalized gay marriage it would be his duty to launch an armed insurrection

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006

Smirking_Serpent posted:

iirc, Card said that if the US legalized gay marriage it would be his duty to launch an armed insurrection

Yeah, card’s questionable understanding of politics and people started cropping up at the beginning of Ender’s game when he has a mouthpiece state that women are too fragile to be in positions of power and pursues that idea further when Petra is the first to crack.

What’s depressing is that in spite of that he’s still considerably less misogynistic than a lot of genre writers.

Mywhatacleanturtle fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Apr 5, 2020

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

Children of the Mind was the biggest, wettest fart completely independent of the awful socio-political content, which also made it bad.

I was also including the Shadow novels in that statement, which are set in the same universe with the same characters shown from different viewpoints. IIRC, the last novel reveals that the aliens from Enders Game were evil after all because they turned all the males of their race into zombie drones or something along those lines.

Casimir Radon posted:

Also Card is a homophobic whackjob who got his brain further screwed around by 9/11.

OSC just makes me sad because I legit like Enders Game and Speaker for the Dead, but so much of what he's said and done over the years just makes my skin crawl. He's like the novelist equivalent of Frank Miller at this point.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


The Shadow series is weird because it takes an incredibly minor character from Ender's Game and makes him the most important character who actually was behind Ender's success.

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

I was also including the Shadow novels in that statement, which are set in the same universe with the same characters shown from different viewpoints. IIRC, the last novel reveals that the aliens from Enders Game were evil after all because they turned all the males of their race into zombie drones or something along those lines.


OSC just makes me sad because I legit like Enders Game and Speaker for the Dead, but so much of what he's said and done over the years just makes my skin crawl. He's like the novelist equivalent of Frank Miller at this point.

Oh yeah. I forgot about the shadow series. I only read halfway through Ender’s Shadow and the most vivid thing I remember about it was that I saw a commercial for it on the si-fi channel and realized it was the only time I had ever seen a novel advertised on tv. Oh, and the early message that geniuses are born everywhere, most of them just don’t have the opportunity to make anything of it. That was kind of cool.

I also used to love Enders Game and Speaker for the Dead. It was the first sci-fi series I read that went with relativistic space travel rather than ftl and that kind of blew my mind as a ten year old. A lot of the world building in Speaker for the Dead is still really good. However, the comparison to Frank Miller is especially apt because there were still kernels of the lovely things sprinkled throughout even their best work, they just weren’t significant enough to notice without hindsight.

Mywhatacleanturtle fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Apr 5, 2020

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


They got Mark Hamill to do voice over for a commercial for the first NJO book. Only example I can think of of a book having a commercial.

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me
You could make an argument that Twilight or Harry Potter or really any movie(s) based on an existing novel are glorified book commercials.

MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Apr 5, 2020

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Casimir Radon posted:

They got Mark Hamill to do voice over for a commercial for the first NJO book. Only example I can think of of a book having a commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqMhP1_I-6o

Also I remember a bunch of commercials for a Stephen King book club which always would lead off with whatever his newest was.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


The classic book commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N595TpC1-Fg

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

Oh yeah. I forgot about the shadow series. I only read halfway through Ender’s Shadow and the most vivid thing I remember about it was that I saw a commercial for it on the si-fi channel and realized it was the only time I had ever seen a novel advertised on tv. Oh, and the early message that geniuses are born everywhere, most of them just don’t have the opportunity to make anything of it. That was kind of cool.

I also used to love Enders Game and Speaker for the Dead. It was the first sci-fi series I read that went with relativistic space travel rather than ftl and that kind of blew my mind as a ten year old. A lot of the world building in Speaker for the Dead is still really good. However, the comparison to Frank Miller is especially apt because there were still kernels of the lovely things sprinkled throughout even their best work, they just weren’t significant enough to notice without hindsight.

The Speaker stuff went over my head as a kid, but I loved the Shadow series, especially after it ditched any comparison to the original and turned into dumb geopolitical thrillers where basically all the world's nations end up led by Battle School graduates.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




This is the best book commercial.

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006


YouTube has been trying really hard to get me to watch this for some reason.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

YouTube has been trying really hard to get me to watch this for some reason.

The algorithm works in mysterious ways.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

Also Card is a homophobic whackjob who got his brain further screwed around by 9/11.

I don't think 9/11 is even the reason, Ender’s Shadow came out a few years before 9/11 and it was full on nuts. That entire series was such a weird premise, it was like OSC deciding he was now going to become Tom Clancy.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

YouTube has been trying really hard to get me to watch this for some reason.

Same. I see this every time I open YouTube and I actively avoided it until now.

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok



A nasty woman, I think you should try is, Jess.


Chairman Capone posted:

I don't think 9/11 is even the reason, Ender’s Shadow came out a few years before 9/11 and it was full on nuts. That entire series was such a weird premise, it was like OSC deciding he was now going to become Tom Clancy.

After 9-11 is when he wrote the red vs blue civil war book(s?) that were incredibly dumb and there are really old threads trashing it (them? can't remember if it was a series or a one-of)




We had all the Zoobooks growing up but almost all of them were the old cover style not the new one.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


He ended up writing two books in that series. The first book was so bad that I never tried the second.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Chairman Capone posted:

I don't think 9/11 is even the reason, Ender’s Shadow came out a few years before 9/11 and it was full on nuts. That entire series was such a weird premise, it was like OSC deciding he was now going to become Tom Clancy.

Card is ... strange. He's got beliefs all over the map. You start unpacking all the stuff in his books - from the early torture porn, through all the young naked boys in danger, the Catholic guilt (for a Mormon), liberal guilt (The Redemption of Christopher Columbus), arguments about aliens as humans, forgiveness, homophobia. I'd swear he's had several breakdowns, there's just angst about everything.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

God i adored paul jenkins Inhumans and their position at the time in the 90s, Karnak having one of the most interesting powers... then they made everyone inhumans because of copyright over mutants in movies and god it suuuuuucked. I miss Black Bolt being this mysterious silent atomic bomb peripheral.

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Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

nonathlon posted:

(The Redemption of Christopher Columbus),
As someone who hasnt read any of this guy's books or knows much about him i just read the plot for this in its wiki and its amazing in the worst stupidest way
It's like if kim stanley robinson had to headbutt harry turtledove 8000 times and then immediately write down plot ideas without any concussion protocol

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