|
Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I know I'm going to regret touching the poop, but why does the gun lobby hate bio safeties? Even in their "OH NO AN URBAN YOUTH HAS BROKEN INTO MY HOME TO RAPE MY DAUGHTER AND STEAL MY TV" fantasies it seems like a great idea to have a gun only you or an authorized user could shoot.
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 12, 2024 16:44 |
|
|
I realize I misinterpreted how that safety worked. I thought it was saying that when the safety was engaged it would block force to the firing pin by...being pressed against the firing pin. Instead, it's meant to stop accidental discharge from dropping the gun, etc.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:03
|
|
|
PHIZ KALIFA posted:the great thing about biometric safeties is they're low cost and really reliable, i'm surprised theey're not more widespread. we should probably pass some legislation mandating their use on all guns, including historical relics. I'm quarantine-drunk and can't detect sarcasm anymore. Is this a thing?
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:07
|
|
|
insta posted:I'm quarantine-drunk and can't detect sarcasm anymore. Is this a thing? its sarcastic, biometric safeties are neither low cost nor reliable. they do exist in limited form though
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:09
|
|
|
Ah. I am not a gun person. My bad.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:20
|
|
|
Police are especially at risk for having their guns taken and used against them, since they often deal with people intending them harm. Also they more often open carry, whereas private citizens who carry, more often carry concealed. Yet when a law is proposed or passed which would require smart guns, the police always manage to get a carve-out exempting them from smart-gun requirements, which should tell you something about how well those smart guns work.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:34
|
|
|
Craptacular posted:Police are especially at risk for having their guns taken and used against them, since they often deal with people intending them harm. Also they more often open carry, whereas private citizens who carry, more often carry concealed. Yet when a law is proposed or passed which would require smart guns, the police always manage to get a carve-out exempting them from smart-gun requirements, which should tell you something about how well those smart guns work. It’s true that biometric locks don’t work well, but “the police don’t like them” isn’t exactly a strong argument.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:37
|
|
|
Craptacular posted:Police are especially at risk for having their guns taken and used against them  my brother is named in honor of my dad's cousin who died in the 70s from having this happen.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:39
|
|
|
I can't think of any reason that the police wouldn't want a system on their gun that would prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was they who pulled the trigger A lot of these biometric lock proposals also talk about recording data like when the gun was actually unholstered and when the trigger was pulled. Two more features that I'm sure the police would love to see implemented
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:42
|
|
|
Platystemon posted:It’s true that biometric locks don’t work well, but “the police don’t like them” isn’t exactly a strong argument. Why not? If the smart guns actually worked as advertised and they didn't have a failure rate higher than non-smart guns, then there would be little or no downside. But if one of the primary users and beneficiaries of smart guns don't like them, then you have to take that as a clue that maybe the downsides are still bigger than the upsides.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:49
|
|
|
Oh my god thread pull up
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 03:58
|
|
|
guys i'm concerned
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:05
|
|
|
CommieGIR posted:Oh my god thread pull up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlr2ZMTc52E
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:10
|
|
|
Sagebrush posted:I can't think of any reason that the police wouldn't want a system on their gun that would prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was they who pulled the trigger I refer you to the documentary "Judge Dredd"
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:11
|
|
|
Sagebrush posted:I can't think of any reason that the police wouldn't want a system on their gun that would prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was they who pulled the trigger And since we've got that data why don't we tie it to their bodycams and microphones so we can get a clear picture of the crimes committed which led to them shooting those black criminals.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:24
|
|
|
Serephina posted:I don't know much about guns, but aren't safeties supposed to prevent discharge? That one doesn't. People described it up thread already — it’s a device that makes the revolver safer than other revolvers of the time. Without the transfer bar mechanism you can set off a revolver by bumping the hammer too hard, by dropping it or whatever. It’s a safety that prevents a specific type of unintentional firing.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:31
|
|
|
Is this warning of the dangers of approaching too close to terrine?
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:32
|
|
|
Florida Brush Fire Destroys at Least 100 Cars at Airport https://i.imgur.com/TG8A68t.mp4 Woops.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:42
|
|
|
taqueso posted:When you really want your weapon to work and that might be when you have an injured hand covered in blood, you want your weapon to actually function. Beeping and saying "unrecognized user" is not good. Even little revolver keylocks have been shown to cause (rare) malfunctions so people are wary, plus no one has made a not lovely biometric option yet. there was an old weird tales scifi story called the gun shop where this dude buys a gun that knows him and will jump out of the holster into his hand when he goes to draw. Once biometrics reach that level I would consider it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:49
|
|
|
They're called drop safeties for a reason. The stupid gun works if you pull the trigger but you won't shoot your wiener off if you drop it in the shower.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 04:50
|
|
|
SniperWoreConverse posted:there was an old weird tales scifi story called the gun shop where this dude buys a gun that knows him and will jump out of the holster into his hand when he goes to draw. Once biometrics reach that level I would consider it. The Weapons Shops of Isher by AE Van Vogt? IIRC they also science magic could only be used for self defense or something like that. It’s been a minute since I read the book though.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 05:24
|
|
|
MutantBlue posted:They're called drop safeties for a reason. The stupid gun works if you pull the trigger but you won't shoot your wiener off if you drop it in the shower. Ironically, Micromancer's infamous toilet revolver lacks this feature
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 05:26
|
|
|
I mostly remember this dude was something dumb like a dirt farmer or cobbler or something and was getting increasingly hosed over by life and he tried to appeal to the space empress and got mocked by her local official but the gun store'll be there for you buddy, liberty comes from the barrel of a gun e: after googling it we gotta be talking about the same thing cause at first he hated the gun store
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 05:28
|
|
|
I have a 130-year-old Iver Johnson American Bulldog chambered in .44 Webley (it was a ripoff of the "British Bulldog") that we found under a floorboard in my grandfather's attic after he died (pretty sure he iced someone with it). While trying to figure out WTF it was, I learned that Iver Johnson was infamous for making "Suicide Guns", cheap-rear end "below Saturday Night Specials" that were really only good for shooting yourself, since they were unreliable, and as likely to kill/injure the shooter as the target. My gun is one of those--I made some blank cartridges out of .303 cases but the trigger spring is too weak to detonate even the most sensitive modern primers reliably; I have to feed it through twice, the first pull makes a dent, the second will (usually) set it off. Later, Iver Johnson started introducing models like the one shown in an attempt to reinvent themselves as the "safer gun maker". They continued to make mediocre guns all the way up until the 1990s. In fact, William McKinley and Robert Kennedy were both assassinated with cheapass Iver Johnson handguns. Someone tried to kill FDR with one but killed the mayor of Chicago instead. There's your gun talk history lesson for the day. 'MURICA!
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 05:41
|
|
|
shame on an IGA posted:Ironically, Micromancer's infamous toilet revolver lacks this feature That was a deliberate choice, a Röhm revolver is the worst gun in any collection that has one. He wasn't going to drop a nice gun in the crapper.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 05:46
|
|
|
Sapper posted:I have a 130-year-old Iver Johnson American Bulldog chambered in .44 Webley (it was a ripoff of the "British Bulldog") that we found under a floorboard in my grandfather's attic after he died (pretty sure he iced someone with it). While trying to figure out WTF it was, I learned that Iver Johnson was infamous for making "Suicide Guns", cheap-rear end "below Saturday Night Specials" that were really only good for shooting yourself, since they were unreliable, and as likely to kill/injure the shooter as the target. My gun is one of those--I made some blank cartridges out of .303 cases but the trigger spring is too weak to detonate even the most sensitive modern primers reliably; I have to feed it through twice, the first pull makes a dent, the second will (usually) set it off.  
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 05:47
|
|
|
Memento posted:...a Röhm revolver is the worst gun in any collection that has one. I thought that was Taurus
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 06:16
|
|
|
Someone post how that one dumps its magazine if you jiggle it I know it can shoot all the bullets like that but I would be completely unsurprised if you can make the mag fall off that way too
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 06:24
|
|
|
SniperWoreConverse posted:Someone post how that one dumps its magazine if you jiggle it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 06:25
|
|
|
That's like that Japanese pistol where, if you squeeze the side of the gun, it fires.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 06:33
|
|
|
Proteus Jones posted:I thought that was Taurus Nahh, Rohm are somehow even worse than them.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 06:41
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:That's like that Japanese pistol where, if you squeeze the side of the gun, it fires. This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9qykXIEOwo
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 06:46
|
|
|
taqueso posted:its sarcastic, biometric safeties are neither low cost nor reliable. they do exist in limited form though Yeah my phone doesn't recognize my fingerprints like 3/5 of the time and that's even after redoing the scans multiple times. Goes up to like 9/10th if my hands are wet. For thread content the Spetsnaz have a special holster for shooting themselves in the leg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie7KiQZWNLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5H2GYOhKtM
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 09:16
|
|
|
Memento posted:Florida Brush Fire Destroys at Least 100 Cars at Airport I am not a water squirter, and never studied the art of putting wet stuff on hot stuff, but wouldn't the efforts of the firetruck be better spent on the leading edge of the fire? You know, keep more cars from bursting into flame instead of letting the fire march along the row while you spray down the already burned-out cars?
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 12:21
|
|
|
CollegeCop posted:I am not a water squirter, and never studied the art of putting wet stuff on hot stuff, but wouldn't the efforts of the firetruck be better spent on the leading edge of the fire? you've just never met the right guy. How about we go get a drink?
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 12:29
|
|
|
CollegeCop posted:I am not a water squirter, and never studied the art of putting wet stuff on hot stuff, but wouldn't the efforts of the firetruck be better spent on the leading edge of the fire? Maybe the fire is spreading in two directions and they are doing what you said, on one direction, but haven't had the time or units present to get to the other direction yet? There may also be a calculation that the row on the left can't be saved no matter what. The video is not good enough to tell what the situation might be.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 13:18
|
|
|
shame on an IGA posted:Ironically, Micromancer's infamous toilet revolver lacks this feature For folks like me who haven't heard this story
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 13:25
|
|
|
Craptacular posted:Police are especially at risk for having their guns taken and used against them, since they often deal with people intending them harm. Also they more often open carry, whereas private citizens who carry, more often carry concealed. Yet when a law is proposed or passed which would require smart guns, the police always manage to get a carve-out exempting them from smart-gun requirements, which should tell you something about how well those smart guns work. that's because they wouldn't be able to plant drop guns and we'd start seeing a lot fewer "clean" shoots
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 13:55
|
|
|
That was a great saga.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 14:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 12, 2024 16:44 |
|
|
CommieGIR posted:Oh my god thread pull up https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-says-fire-extinguished-near-contaminated-site-of-chernobyl-nuclear-disaster/30532240.html But there's more of them every year. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/chernobyl-radioactive-forest-arson-timber-smuggling-200214104539121.html And some are smuggling the timber out to sell it to furniture factories.
|
|
#
?
Apr 5, 2020 16:30
|
|
