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Saul Goode posted:If you were to condense the card into one night what matches and in what order would you put them? Both nights sound like a slog but it seems there is enough to make one decent PPV (or custom playlist). Gulak v Cesaro Zayn v Bryan Ladder match Rollins v Owens BoneZone Firefly Funhouse That's it
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Apr 6, 2020 10:27
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RBX posted:He's watched too much late Nitro in a short amount of time. Check the gif thread in about 5 minutes!  Edit: or just view it here! 
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Apr 6, 2020 10:28
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I think the boneyard match is proof that this forum doesn't hate WWE. They're just so bad that they often can't meet the expectation of "Be fun" and "be mildly entertaining". They're graded on the softest curve and still rarely pass.
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Apr 6, 2020 10:55
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Blaise330 posted:Turns out Edge vs Orton is the 2nd longest wrestlemania match of all time under bret and shawn's iron man match. Feels accurate 36:35 according to Wikipedia. Certainly felt longer than that.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:03
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How about that big rear end ladder tho
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Apr 6, 2020 11:06
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think the boneyard match is proof that this forum doesn't hate WWE. Do something good and people like it, do something bad and they don't. I've said many times before that if WWE gets mostly negative reactions around here, that's not the fault of the people around here.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:06
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Saul Goode posted:If you were to condense the card into one night what matches and in what order would you put them? Both nights sound like a slog but it seems there is enough to make one decent PPV (or custom playlist). Otis v Ziggler Rhea v Charlotte Bryan v Zayn Ladder Match Triple Threat Boneyard Match Drew v Lesnar Rollins v Owens Funhouse Match 8 match card, in what I feel is the best escalation of both emotion and general match quality culminating in the best the show had in the semi-main and main. Also make Rollins v Owens for the Universal Title somehow.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:10
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sidebar: it really rubs me the wrong way when people break out the "fake fighting in your underwear" stuff when talking about wrestling. There isn't an artform in existence that couldn't be given a similarly reductive description. Pointilism is just making little dots on paper. Ballet is just prancing about in tights. Drama is just dress-up and make believe with your friends. Avant garde orchestral music is just a bunch of idiots making noise. Writing fiction is just making up stories. Anything is silly when you examine it closely, because the world is absurd. What matters is the joy you get from it.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:13
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Sanguinia posted:Also make Rollins v Owens for the Universal Title somehow. Build a time machine, or send a killer robot back in time to prevent the Rollins v. Fiend matches, where the WWE booked themselves into a corner, get Rollins to turn heel regardless at around Survivor Series, and do the Rollins v. Owens feud - and when Rollins and Murphy win the tag titles, absolutely have Rollins refer to himself as "Sethy Two-Belts."
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Apr 6, 2020 11:15
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Vagabundo posted:Build a time machine, or send a killer robot back in time to prevent the Rollins v. Fiend matches, where the WWE booked themselves into a corner, get Rollins to turn heel regardless at around Survivor Series, and do the Rollins v. Owens feud - and when Rollins and Murphy win the tag titles, absolutely have Rollins refer to himself as "Sethy Two-Belts." This has the bonus effect of the Fiend never being champion and thus not having to job out to Goldberg, and also letting him spend those months doing Horror Monster Squash Matches without everyone hating it so much because it wouldn't be in world title matches. Book it Time Bookers.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:21
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BrigadierSensible posted:If we are still talking about Wrestlemania, in anon cinematic thought: That was some of Bayley's best main roster work. I think she was absolutely the star of that match. I also like that even her evil character isn't really that mean with her insults. "How do you like that dance machine?"
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Apr 6, 2020 11:31
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Codependent Poster posted:That was some of Bayley's best main roster work. I think she was absolutely the star of that match. I also like that even her evil character isn't really that mean with her insults. Evil Bayley is good, I'm mildly interested in whats going to happen with Sasha. The match was p bad though.
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Apr 6, 2020 11:51
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Man I sure wish that instead of the really creative, interesting and hilarious match we got last night we instead got Cena Match #384973927. Wrestling needs to follow very specific standards to count as wrestling to me. Now if you'll excuse me I just poo poo my pants
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Apr 6, 2020 12:16
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Personally I'd prefer if Cena Wyatt was a Battlarts style match because I think most of the WWE doing Battlarts matches would be hilarious but I'm glad others enjoyed what they did
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Apr 6, 2020 12:30
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Sanguinia posted:This has the bonus effect of the Fiend never being champion and thus not having to job out to Goldberg, and also letting him spend those months doing Horror Monster Squash Matches without everyone hating it so much because it wouldn't be in world title matches. Book it Time Bookers. Yep, they could have easily had him gently caress with Miz and Bryan without it being title matches, because in both feuds, the title wasn't the focus anyway.
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Apr 6, 2020 12:35
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Honestly I hated the Firefly Funhouse too  I'm not going to be the old man screaming about "muh rasslin" though, it is what it is. I'm not the target audience for these "cinematic" matches and that's cool, if you liked it I'm glad.I can moan all day about these "kick out of 15 finishers and go 3 minutes" matches though, I'm so over it.
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Apr 6, 2020 12:36
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forkboy84 posted:Personally I'd prefer if Cena Wyatt was a Battlarts style match because I think most of the WWE doing Battlarts matches would be hilarious but I'm glad others enjoyed what they did John Cena's Bloodsport.
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Apr 6, 2020 12:47
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An Actual Bear posted:Honestly I hated the Firefly Funhouse too I warned everyone when goldberg came back. I warned you all but nobody listened.
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Apr 6, 2020 12:50
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goldberg should've retained
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Apr 6, 2020 12:53
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TriffTshngo posted:goldberg should've retained and beaten Brock for the other belt
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Apr 6, 2020 13:00
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Vagabundo posted:36:35 according to Wikipedia. That's hours and minutes, right?
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Apr 6, 2020 13:18
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The most impressive thing about WM is honestly that they found a way to gently caress up Edge/Orton this badly. You'd think that even with WWE booking it would have ended up mediocre at worst, but no, they found a way to make it absolute dogshit.
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Apr 6, 2020 13:30
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Cerebral Bore posted:The most impressive thing about WM is honestly that they found a way to gently caress up Edge/Orton this badly. You'd think that even with WWE booking it would have ended up mediocre at worst, but no, they found a way to make it absolute dogshit. Best build, worst match. Seems on point.
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Apr 6, 2020 13:32
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lol at still being surprised when wwe ruins something that was a slam dunk
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Apr 6, 2020 13:38
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When they called it a last man standing match, they were referring to the audience
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Apr 6, 2020 13:39
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They should have had all the Mania matches be shot in a cinematic style even the PC ones, even just to make it look more like that one indie... Riptide iirc?
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Apr 6, 2020 13:42
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:John Cena plays a real good Shinji Ikari *does the Five Knuckle Shuffle* I'm so hosed up.
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Apr 6, 2020 13:42
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Sanguinia posted:Otis v Ziggler yea I would purchase a ticket to this show, obviously hindsight on what matches were good helps but it feels like even without knowing what worked this is a solid card that has a nice mix of classic 'here's two dudes wrasslin' and weird gimmick stuff and storyline stuff.
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Apr 6, 2020 13:42
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Cerebral Bore posted:The most impressive thing about WM is honestly that they found a way to gently caress up Edge/Orton this badly. You'd think that even with WWE booking it would have ended up mediocre at worst, but no, they found a way to make it absolute dogshit. Dave said on Observer Radio nobody would admit who produced that match, so I'm assuming it's HHH because "Slow-paced blood feud match that goes on forever" is 100% his style
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Apr 6, 2020 13:47
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Can you imagine if all this Mania had been one show and the Orton/Edge match had been in the last third?
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Apr 6, 2020 14:04
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Looking forward to a year from now when WWE has run cinematic matches into the ground (the likes of which include A King’s Court match featuring King Corbin) and they get the Always Bad treatment
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Apr 6, 2020 14:12
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Aleister vs Lashley being in the top 5 for matches last weekend is slightly concerning
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Apr 6, 2020 14:20
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You know after the firefly funhouse segment last night i was asked what the gently caress the person who who asked me just loving saw, and o could only respondnd with :what you just saw was a thing a beauty, you have asked for years what my schizphrenia is really like, what you just saw was one of my schizophrenic delusions cranked up to 11"
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Apr 6, 2020 14:21
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Firefly Funhouse was incredibly unique and entertaining. But it would have been better if there was more resembling actual wrestling like a Final Deletion. I thought that's where they were going after the psychological trip, but it was just Mandible Claw and The Fiend standing tall. Still miles and miles ahead of WWE's usual "you want THIS? gently caress you you're getting what we tell you to like." Which alone makes this a better Wrestlemania than the last several.
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Apr 6, 2020 14:23
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I think the thing with Funhouse for me was that, while I personally enjoyed it, it didn't really y'know do anything for the show or for the WWE as a whole. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I sincerely doubt that they're going to be talking about it all over WWE television for the next few months or acknowledging the narrative throughline that the Fiend defeated John Cena by convincing John Cena that he was a bad person all along. More than likely if it is mentioned at all it's going to be in the vaguest possible terms like Michael Cole shrieking "Can you believe what we saw last night in Bray Wyatt's Firefly Funhouse" if they even have Wyatt on the show before they come up with a new feud for him. It's just going to be 'a bunch of weird poo poo that happened' and business will continue as usual with no impact on anything (aside from, I suppose, John Cena not being on television until the build for next year's Wrestlemania or whenever he decides that he wants to show up again for something). The Boneyard is a much easier story to play off of for WWE television (though again I don't imagine we're likely to see Taker again until next year) and for that reason alone counts as a much more successful use of their time and resources from my point of view. It was also a lot more fun to watch.
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Apr 6, 2020 14:54
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Incessant Excess posted:Can you imagine if all this Mania had been one show and the Orton/Edge match had been in the last third? It' actually kinda funny that this here Mania might actually have ended up being better than it otherwise would have due to the empty arena in some rear end-backwards way.
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Apr 6, 2020 14:56
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imagine how much worse that incredibly awful match would have been with a live crowd and without the benefit of editing
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Apr 6, 2020 15:08
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I wonder whose large nose was inserted into Edge vs Orton to turn a good 18 min match into a bad 37 minute one and also suggested the benoit spot to own the libs. Who could it have been? wHHHo?
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Apr 6, 2020 15:16
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TriffTshngo posted:so how does edge vs orton stack up against the first 31 minutes of go shiozaki vs kazuyuki fujita
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projecthalaxy posted:I wonder whose large nose was inserted into Edge vs Orton to turn a good 18 min match into a bad 37 minute one and also suggested the benoit spot to own the libs. Who could it have been? wHHHo? There was a Benoit spot? What happened??
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