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The best guess of the BBC is that Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab would be asked to form a Government by Her Maj (God Bless 'er) until the Tories appoint a new leader. Apparently there's a pdf manual for this stuff https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/60641/cabinet-manual.pdf I think they should appoint Ant and Dec or someone from Essex.
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blackgreywhite posted:The best guess of the BBC is that Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab would be asked to form a Government by Her Maj (God Bless 'er) until the Tories appoint a new leader. Apparently there's a pdf manual for this stuff https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/60641/cabinet-manual.pdf how the gently caress does your country not have anything written down if your PM dies that's insane
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Apr 7, 2020 05:11
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They should appoint James Bond. He is cool. I dont know how any of this works because im American
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Apr 7, 2020 05:13
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Look if Boris Johnson dies trump becomes prime minister. You might argue "thats not how it works, thats not how any of it works" but the UK decided it could have a living body of laws instead of a written constitution so much like a dog playing football, there's no rules saying that can't happen.
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Barudak posted:Look if Boris Johnson dies trump becomes prime minister. You might argue "thats not how it works, thats not how any of it works" but the UK decided it could have a living body of laws instead of a written constitution so much like a dog playing football, there's no rules saying that can't happen. Oh like Air Bud
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Apr 7, 2020 05:41
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yeah, make the dead dog the prime minister
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Apr 7, 2020 05:46
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Inept posted:how the gently caress does your country not have anything written down if your PM dies they don't need a special rules for everything. when weird poo poo happens the queen can just do whatever she wants
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Apr 7, 2020 05:57
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Serious question from someone not English: what's the difference of BoJo being admitted to ICU, getting ventilated and getting critical care?
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Rutibex posted:they don't need a special rules for everything. when weird poo poo happens the queen can just do whatever she wants Yeah, that's it. And that freedom is one of the reasons there were fears of Charlie getting on the throne, because he might be liable to having 'funny ideas'. Anyway, a sign of what Trump thinks of the current acting British PM? - 
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Inept posted:yeah, make the dead dog the prime minister We already did, that's kind of the problem we have right now
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Serious question from someone not English: what's the difference of BoJo being admitted to ICU, getting ventilated and getting critical care? It's hard to tell what stage he's at, as all the government spokespeople are blatantly playing things down.* All I can say is, I think he's much sicker than they're admitting to. *Except for IDS, who remains as magnificently clueless as ever.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Serious question from someone not English: what's the difference of BoJo being admitted to ICU, getting ventilated and getting critical care? Good article explaining the terms used here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52193264
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spacetoaster posted:Hmmm, I figure there'd be a sword involved somehow. Either pulled from a stone, or handed to someone by a lady in a lake, or just a good ol' duel. Its a mace, you oaf!
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I cannot beleive that Boris Johnson, the bestest and most popular brit as was objectively shown by élection générale as they say in the UK is loving dead Edit: Yes, Trump will appoint Jared Kushner to lead the UK through these trying times as his vassal Sekenr fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Inept posted:how the gently caress does your country not have anything written down if your PM dies It's a system governed in large part by conventions. i.e. people going "hmm... well, what did we do the last few times this happened?" If it hasn't happened much then they just figure it out as they go In this case it's pretty clear since the Tories have a majority in parliament, they'd be expected to arrange somehow for another of their MPs to become prime minister and the Queen would wave it through.
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Apr 7, 2020 09:28
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's hard to tell what stage he's at, as all the government spokespeople are blatantly playing things down.* All I can say is, I think he's much sicker than they're admitting to. Washington Post is saying he is getting Oxygen Assistance at the moment.
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Hammerite posted:
Lions and tigers and leadership spills. Worst case scenario is that you end up with a no confidence motion being carried and go to the polls. It would be political suicide to push that option at the moment and it would hamper the covid-19 response.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Serious question from someone not English: what's the difference of BoJo being admitted to ICU, getting ventilated and getting critical care? The BBC reported this morning that he’s not being ventilated, but is somewhere that that can happen almost instantly if it’s required. spacetoaster posted:So who takes over if he dies? In the UK, the person leading the government is almost irrelevant, despite the efforts of the press to turn the electoral process into the mass popularity contest the US enjoys. We elect the Conservative Party or the Labour Party, and the method by which the leader of those parties is elevated to their position is obscure to the broad mass of the populace, basically a vote by members of the party itself. The concept of a deputy Prime Minister seemed novel to me when Tony Blair had one, I just assumed (like everyone else) that the parties had a plan in place if something happened to interrupt the normal functions of government. There’s not usually a “vice Prime Minister”. I mention Tony Blair, because it was widely reported at the time that he’d made a deal to just kind of let Gordon Brown be PM for a bit (which ended up happening), much like you might lend your lawnmower to a neighbour. Inept posted:how the gently caress does your country not have anything written down if your PM dies The one cool thing they do have to write down when they become Prime Minister is instructions to our nuclear fleet in the event Parliament is effectively destroyed by nuclear war. Options include surrendering control of the fleet to our allies if any such remain, literally running away to live on a desert island, or 
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Waltzing Along posted:I know, back in the day (and currently, of course) there was a sizable number of people who hated Thatcher and would have taken to the streets in celebration were she to die in office. The same as how we hated Reagan. How is Bojo viewed in comparison? If Thatcher is 100 on the hatred scale... Depends who by. As leader, he’s only been in a short time so the end consequences of anything he’s done haven’t really come into play yet. Mainly he lied, obfuscated, blocked the Russia report, lied some more, then inexplicably won the election in a landslide. But it’s clear that Brexit as a whole is his fault in large part, he was complicit in all the austerity bullshit we’ve suffered under for the last decade (including deliberately underfunding the NHS), and has assembled the most right wing bastard government possible with a strong mandate, somehow. Rich tories like him cos he’s one of them. Poor racist & nationalist people like him cos he’s “a bit of a buffoon” and is supported by our horrific press. Despite his policies basically being “stab poors in the eye”. Everyone sane hates him, knows his government is scary and that Russia probably helped get Brexit done. That leaves the other 50%.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Serious question from someone not English: what's the difference of BoJo being admitted to ICU, getting ventilated and getting critical care? not a doctor, but I think ICU is one form of critical care (others might be e.g. neonatal critical care). Getting admitted to ICU basically means he's next to a ventilator and other expensive machines that go 'ping' in case they're needed.
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spacetoaster posted:So who takes over if he dies? Covid-19 becomes Prime Minister
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I’m not particularly fond of the idea that Russia had anything to do with Brexit at all. There’s more than enough stupid racists to go around; “never attribute to malice…” etc. It gives people a cheap thrill to say WAKE UP SHEEPLE, when really nothing about Brexit is in the least surprising.
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Apr 7, 2020 09:55
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lol if we're on our fourth PM since the referendum before brexit actually goes through
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Torquemada posted:I’m not particularly fond of the idea that Russia had anything to do with Brexit at all. There’s more than enough stupid racists to go around; “never attribute to malice…” etc. It gives people a cheap thrill to say WAKE UP SHEEPLE, when really nothing about Brexit is in the least surprising. It’s not an idea, an extensive report has been done into this. The question isn’t “was there interference” as there was undoubtedly huge unaccountable money finding the leave vote campaign. The only question is who provided it, and was that all they did. And the very good reasons for not releasing the report detailing whether or not they actually did interfere, prior to an election which became a defacto Brexit confirmation vote was...? If the answer was “no interference”, the report would be out already.
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spacetoaster posted:Hmmm, I figure there'd be a sword involved somehow. Either pulled from a stone, or handed to someone by a lady in a lake, or just a good ol' duel. In principle, you're correct. Except, instead of of a stone, it's a dead pig. Instead of a sword, it's a penis. And instead of the lady in the lake, it's the Daily Mail.
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nonathlon posted:In principle, you're correct. Except, instead of of a stone, it's a dead pig. Instead of a sword, it's a penis. And instead of the lady in the lake, it's the Daily Mail. It's always the Daily Mail - bastards that they are.
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wooger posted:It’s not an idea, an extensive report has been done into this. The question isn’t “was there interference” as there was undoubtedly huge unaccountable money finding the leave vote campaign. The only question is who provided it, and was that all they did. My contention is that the result would have been the same regardless of who funded it or how money was spent. Or to put it another way, if some shadowy organisation had put a vast amount of money and time into the Remain campaign, we’d still be leaving.
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see this is why its funny https://twitter.com/Sisyphusa/status/1247457266980343808
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Does anyone know what happened to the pigs head Cameron stuck his dick in? I think we should make that Prime Minister.
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Sunswipe posted:Does anyone know what happened to the pigs head Cameron stuck his dick in? I think we should make that Prime Minister. "Killed itself" in prison
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jeffery epswine
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Inept posted:how the gently caress does your country not have anything written down if your PM dies we make things up as we go along. it's not insane, just quite silly 
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Apr 7, 2020 11:44
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Jose posted:see this is why its funny I've changed my mind, I now hope he lives and has to come to terms with the fact that he was unable to turn germs away with a stiff upper lip and a can-do attitude.
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Inept posted:how the gently caress does your country not have anything written down if your PM dies Do most countries have that written down? I know the US does, but does France, or Germany, or Italy? Generally speaking the idea is the Head of State picks a new premier who can command the confidence of the legislature  (Parliament does not elect the Prime Minister. The Queen picks him. He is, as the name indicates, actually her chief servant; formally speaking Parliament has nothing to do with it. Technically there's no requirement he even be a member of it, though it would be a bit awkward if she really did pick say Trump from a procedural point of view). feedmegin fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Torquemada posted:My contention is that the result would have been the same regardless of who funded it or how money was spent. Or to put it another way, if some shadowy organisation had put a vast amount of money and time into the Remain campaign, we’d still be leaving. Your contention is loving stupid.
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wooger posted:inexplicably won the election in a landslide. lol It's perfectly explicable to anybody who doesn't live in a bubble where they only interact with other Guardian readers
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Hammerite posted:lol the Guardian ran nonstop attack ads on Labour on a level above anybody else throughout that election
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Butterfly Valley posted:Your contention is loving stupid. Any preference to how we continue this conversation? 1) Polite: How so? 2) Sarcastic: Wow, you really told me there chief. I’m now convinced we live in a perfect Remain utopia that was only ruined by the intervention of the dastardly Red Menace. 3) Hostile: Go gently caress yourself.
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Torquemada posted:Any preference to how we continue this conversation? 4) 
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kecske posted:the Guardian ran nonstop attack ads on Labour on a level above anybody else throughout that election what's your point? "Guardian reader" does not literally mean a person who reads the Guardian newspaper. It's a widely-understood shorthand descriptor of a particular demographic.
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