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Everyone talks about Ryuji being the arrogant idiot, but it was Morgana who was pushing hardest to jump into Okumura’s Palace. Sure, he was doing it out of an identity crisis rather than a desire for fame, but both were driven by attempts to bolster their damaged egos. The others (except Haru and Futaba to a lesser extent) weren’t blameless since they let the dumb kid and loud cat drag them into this mistake. They weren’t ego-tripping or throwing a tantrum like those two, but they did all want fame to an extent and let it make them sloppy. Unfortunately, by the time they got their heads on straight, they had already gotten caught and had a deadline to save Haru to keep them from asking questions.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I mean yeah that was true of P4G as well. Atlus gonna Atlus. 4 was on the ps2. That couldn't have been updated the way 5 could have been.
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Apr 7, 2020 19:09
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Codependent Poster posted:Tell me what you decide because I'm also struggling. My first playthrough of the base game I romanced anyone and everyone I possibly could. Spoiler for romance options in base P5: Joker getting what he deserves for being a womanizing scumbag was hilarious. Leaning toward doing that again just because it’s so hard to pick.  Gonna try and make my mind up while I do my FFXIV daily roulettes.
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Apr 7, 2020 19:16
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Yeah the boss of Okumura palace is a loving piece of poo poo, people were not exaggerating. For the people who've beat it, what level were you? Wondering if I've gone in too early, the guide I was using gave two options at the point I was at, either to go in, get Haru activated, leave and then clear the palace much later or just clear it all but then the guide carried on as if I guess you took the first option cause none of the confidants it was suggesting afterwards were available for me after I cleared the whole palace in that initial visit. So then I saw I had a bunch of days with no confidants available figured I'd reload to the start of those two days and just send the calling card. Maybe I should go do mementos and get Haru's baton pass up or something. thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Apr 7, 2020 19:20
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Every time I play through this game I'm impressed at how accurately they managed to depict the internet making people stupid in the phan site comment ticker It's like they hired a goon consultant
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Geostomp posted:Everyone talks about Ryuji being the arrogant idiot, but it was Morgana who was pushing hardest to jump into Okumura’s Palace. Sure, he was doing it out of an identity crisis rather than a desire for fame, but both were driven by attempts to bolster their damaged egos. Yeah, and that's why the whole Morgana/Ryuji thing is most people's least favorite part of the game. It's not that this arc doesn't make sense, it's that it's not good and it feels more like the writers needed an excuse for you to keep going after they had already made it clear that the stakes were getting too high to justify going to another palace. So, to do that, they settled on everybody not having a brain long enough to introduce Haru to keep you forced into continuing to act as Phantom Thieves, even after everyone has agreed that it's a bad idea. Like, the game says that Persona users can't have palaces because Persona users are incapable of being out-of-touch with their own desires, but it really feels like Ryuji isn't any better than Mishima, who lets the whole thing go to his head so much you have to stop him in Mementos
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Apr 7, 2020 19:24
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https://twitter.com/PapilIonHeart/status/1246582084782755840 hee ho
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Apr 7, 2020 19:25
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Lol now I'm feeling bad about romancing the high school teacher, and not for the obvious reasons. "Hey my girlfriend, please do my laundry for me so I have time to go hang out with these other pretty girls"
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Apr 7, 2020 19:51
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Ok, darts is 100% easier using X/O as opposed to motion controls, and got 180 while letting my teammate winning on round 4. Totally worth it for the extra proficiency points. Edit: regarding romancing, my first play through I romanced Tae, mainly because I figured my girlfriend would give me cheaper meds, but alas... This time I think I’ll romance Ann, mainly because it’s the girl you’ve known so long. I will never romance Futaba. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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I did Makoto my first playthrough since it kinda felt like the game was pushing her particularly during the fourth palace. She proceeded to drop the bombshell on me that her dream is to become a cop way too late to backout.  Second play through was Ann, who was boring as hell mostly thanks to her confidant series being pretty lackluster. RazzleDazzleHour posted:Like, the game says that Persona users can't have palaces because Persona users are incapable of being out-of-touch with their own desires, but it really feels like Ryuji isn't any better than Mishima, who lets the whole thing go to his head so much you have to stop him in Mementos Honestly the irony with that comparison is that if anything it's Mishima who comes off as way more cognizant of his desires than Ryuji. Ryuji has his desire to punish adults who take advantage of their power slowly twisted into wanting fame and fortune. Mishima meanwhile from the word go clearly just wants to feel like he's part of the PT's and therefore important, and his slow escalation feels less like his desires being twisted and more him feeling like he can be more honest with Joker.
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Apr 7, 2020 20:11
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There's only one correct romance option and that's Literally anyone who isn't Futaba. Do not date your ridiculously emotionally vulnerable/poorly socialized adoptive sister you scumbag.
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Apr 7, 2020 20:29
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Dating Futaba should be an instant game over like choosing obviously bad answers for Yaldabaoth
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Apr 7, 2020 20:50
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Yeah dating Futaba felt really icky. It feels like predatory grooming and I just don’t like it. She is an awesome character yes but yeah that’s a no for me. Also can’t date Kawakami because the age difference between the protagonist and her is also  Ann doesn’t do it for me... I just don’t connect with her at all and her confidant progression was so bland. also I feel like she and Shioh seemed like a cute couple and really didn’t want to break them up in my head cannon Out of the entire cast that are awesome enough to consider dating in game would Be Makoto, Ryuji (dammit Atlus give us options if we want them), and Haru. They were always more interesting then the rest of the cast and since I can’t date Skull and I dated Queen last time I have one option left and that’s the Bazooka and Garden tending Noir Also if you read the last two paragraphs above at all you can tell I am shipping trash.
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Apr 7, 2020 21:04
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The only real option is to date the new girl. She seems to be the only one to actually pursue the the MC as a romantic partner. Haru is the one I felt bad about not dating last time. She just takes it in a way that really bums me out. Ethiser fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 7, 2020 |
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Apr 7, 2020 21:16
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The thing that seals the Futaba romance as incredibly disgusting and offputting is that Futaba does not confess, or even really read any kind of romance into her relationship with Joker unless you explicitly tell her. Like the "confession" scene is her being happy she's completed her promise list which is an emotionally charged moment for her, and she comments that her heart is beating fast but doesn't know why. The only reason a romance starts is if you pick a response that is essentially "ah yes, that is because you are in fact in love with me. Wanna bang?" Which is just 
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Apr 7, 2020 21:21
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I wish there was a way to be friends with Ann without saying “You have the others.  ”She and Joker really do read like platonic friends though.
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Apr 7, 2020 21:23
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ROFL Octopus posted:I wish there was a way to be friends with Ann without saying “You have the others. It feels like a weird translation or something that wasn't fixed. "You have us" would be a better option to decline the romance while staying friends
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Apr 7, 2020 21:31
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If anyone else has trouble with Okumura at the end of his palace and doesn't mind changing the difficulty, try knocking it up to merciless. It makes it so you do triple damage with stuff enemies are weak to and there's nothing that'll take advantage of your weaknesses in the fight. Felt a bit dirty but that fight is loving awful, still had to use a few revival beads as well.
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Sydin posted:The thing that seals the Futaba romance as incredibly disgusting and offputting is that Futaba does not confess, or even really read any kind of romance into her relationship with Joker unless you explicitly tell her. Like the "confession" scene is her being happy she's completed her promise list which is an emotionally charged moment for her, and she comments that her heart is beating fast but doesn't know why. The only reason a romance starts is if you pick a response that is essentially "ah yes, that is because you are in fact in love with me. Wanna bang?" Which is just The high school romances in these games are incredibly chaste. There is no response that's essentially "wanna bang?" The adult-teenager romances in this game are creepy, but you're basically just inventing manipulation and exploitation that don't exist in the text of the game, and taking it to an even further gross point all on your own.
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lol you're right my bad, sorry for engaging in hyperbole on the Something Awful Forums. 
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At least no ones CPU gets fingerbanged in this one!
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Randallteal posted:The high school romances in these games are incredibly chaste. There is no response that's essentially "wanna bang?" The adult-teenager romances in this game are creepy, but you're basically just inventing manipulation and exploitation that don't exist in the text of the game, and taking it to an even further gross point all on your own. Hyperbole was used but it’s still 100% grooming.
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ROFL Octopus posted:I wish there was a way to be friends with Ann without saying “You have the others. I do like it but I believe you're correct in that in the Japanese the difference between what Joker is saying makes more sense. That said having seen Ann's romance route I do like it. It's no going to see violent yakuza films with Makoto, but it's nice.
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Yes thank you. He's what's not hyperbole: the relentless skill. I just rolled it in an alarm fusion and what the actual gently caress: 50% damage bonus to attacks targeting weaknesses. 
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Apr 7, 2020 23:38
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Sydin posted:Yes thank you. That isn't an alarm fusion exclusive skill and there are far more crazy things you can find then just that with the higher tier fusions.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:45
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You can use network fusion to put Messiah Pico skills onto Pixie
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I went to Memento's and was waiting for something to happen IRL so I stayed for a few hours and made 2 million yen and 10 levels. I might do some more. Managed to finish the strength confidant because a DLC persona has the last skill you need that you normally need to wait til super late in the game to get the skill card for. It's a free DLC persona if anyone cares. Kaguya Picaro started with High Counter
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Arist posted:I'm so mad, I wanted to get everyone maxed before doing Shido's Palace, but the game locks you out of party Confidants when you only have a week left before the deadline and you haven't finished the Palace! Haven't tried on Royal yet but in Vanilla getting to the treasure, having the calling card conversation at the hideout, and then backing out of actually sending it will unlock party confidants.
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One nice little touch they added to where you first meet Temperance that I liked: (Minor social link spoiler) When she hands you a student ID, you can see a folded up maid service ad underneath. Joker notices, and she quickly puts it away. I even went back to make sure it wasn't in vanilla.
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Apr 8, 2020 00:58
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TheLoser posted:One nice little touch they added to where you first meet Temperance that I liked: I did a double take at that one, seems like a huge slip-up on her part.
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So, I've been stuck on rank 5 of Takuto (Consultant) for over a month now. I'm guessing he is story locked like Sojiro. Anyone willing to give me a hint on when I need to start taking his time into consideration again?
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AlternateNu posted:So, I've been stuck on rank 5 of Takuto (Consultant) for over a month now. I'm guessing he is story locked like Sojiro. Anyone willing to give me a hint on when I need to start taking his time into consideration again? 9/19
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https://twitter.com/PapilIonHeart/status/1246582084782755840 Hee Ho. Also Alarms are fun and cool.
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Who gives you the ability to fuse personas above your level for money? Is that the Twins rank 10?
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Sydin posted:Who gives you the ability to fuse personas above your level for money? Is that the Twins rank 10? Twins, yes. Rank 5 now, I think.
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Apr 8, 2020 02:25
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Rank 10 gives you a discount.
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Apr 8, 2020 02:28
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Akechi’s social link is really good
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Ah drat, they kept one of the worst lines from the original. "Makoto's sis is that lady who's overflowing with the aura of a capable woman", loving really Atlus?! 
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After doing some tests in Memento's I'm certain that the +money SEES armband does not stack. It does seem to work if someone other than Joker is using it though. cheesetriangles fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Apr 8, 2020 |
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Captain Oblivious posted:There's only one correct romance option and that's 1000% this Like what the gently caress
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