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So no, I didn't send any messages. AA is right that I don't know everything about the mechanics. I've been thinking about this. The only possibility that I can see that doesn't involve either b- lying or a messenger lying to b- would be for me to be the cop, and somehow if I target scum, it sends my decoded results to another player. In this scenario I would have to be the cop, since no one else successfully targeted YPM n1, and I don't think sending uncoded messages makes sense with the hidden element of the game.
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spacing in vienna posted:So no, I didn't send any messages. that would be plausible if binus received the message on n1
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Apr 10, 2020 21:29
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At this point im thinking failed gambit, but still feel bee town vibes fwiw
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Apr 10, 2020 21:35
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:At this point im thinking failed gambit, but still feel bee town vibes fwiw what do you feel about SiV's probable cop results?
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Apr 10, 2020 22:13
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Gamerofthegame posted:what do you feel about SiV's probable cop results? I think i missed that lol and drat. Maybe so...
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Apr 10, 2020 22:39
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I think i missed that lol and drat. Maybe so... Maybe so? What’s maybe so?
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Apr 10, 2020 22:41
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Your Personal Muse posted:Maybe so? What’s maybe so? Maybe you're actually scum
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Apr 10, 2020 22:56
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Maybe you're actually scum So you don’t think there’s a possibility GOTG is scum?
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Apr 10, 2020 23:06
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case closed gang ypm is scum
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Apr 10, 2020 23:17
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Imagining a team of AA, Binus, ETR, and Gamer and ETR jumped ship as soon as he could because holy poo poo
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Apr 10, 2020 23:29
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the longer binus doesn't explain this the worse it looks? like just admit if it was bs or not but it's sorta feeling like a backfired gambit
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Apr 10, 2020 23:34
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Mr. Humalong posted:Imagining a team of AA, Binus, ETR, and Gamer and ETR jumped ship as soon as he could because holy poo poo rude
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Apr 11, 2020 00:09
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Sandwolf posted:the longer binus doesn't explain this the worse it looks? like just admit if it was bs or not but it's sorta feeling like a backfired gambit take it from me, the self-proclaimed king of lying townies. there'd be no town motivation for lying about that. i cant exactly wrap my head around a scum motivation for it either, but binus coming back to thread after all the questions just to put a smiley and leave again.... i think voting him is the best move
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Apr 11, 2020 00:14
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also of note is the complete lack of actual votes on binus (besides me), despite the amount of skepticism leveled at him for this claim. compare to the rather easy way gotg voted for etr after the claim. so, i actually dont think gotg is scum with binus unless scum has basically given up, because that vote would be way too obvious. he may still be scum if binus is town, pulling off an easily-justifiable bus that's unlikely to take off. but right now, im thinking binus scum what im thinking is that there's probably a scum among the posters shading binus but neglecting to place a vote
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Apr 11, 2020 00:19
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Mr. Steak posted:also of note is the complete lack of actual votes on binus (besides me), despite the amount of skepticism leveled at him for this claim. compare to the rather easy way gotg voted for etr after the claim. Honestly I’m waiting for any sort of explanation before I vote because what the gently caress
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Apr 11, 2020 00:33
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Mr. Steak posted:also of note is the complete lack of actual votes on binus (besides me), despite the amount of skepticism leveled at him for this claim. compare to the rather easy way gotg voted for etr after the claim. i think you (and others) put way to much faith in the argument of ha ha an actual mechanical vote as if the vote history matters in comparison to how you post if you don't think I'm scum then what about siv's cop thing, assuming that paints ypm as scum then are you saying binus is randomly and awkwardly bussing ypm? that's a lot of buses in a post-etr world we're under quarantine people stop this
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Apr 11, 2020 00:38
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Gamerofthegame posted:i think you (and others) put way to much faith in the argument of ha ha an actual mechanical vote as if the vote history matters in comparison to how you post idfk what binus was thinking, regardless of alignment (unless 3p)
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Apr 11, 2020 00:46
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Maybe you're actually scum Your Personal Muse posted:So you don’t think there’s a possibility GOTG is scum? So much deflection in your recent posts. ##vote ypm
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Apr 11, 2020 00:46
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Gotg it's really interesting to me that you were convinced I was some kind of action detector earlier but sure both that I'm the cop and that I caught YPM now. I really hate binus bailing like this.
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Apr 11, 2020 00:46
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b-minus1 posted:So much deflection in your recent posts. ##vote ypm ... You want to actually explain literally anything?
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Apr 11, 2020 00:47
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if he is scum, obviously lying about this would be a horrible gambit. if he is town, why the hell wouldnt he claim it in his first post of the day? my current theory is, he's scum telling the truth. decided after siv's claim to claim it
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Apr 11, 2020 00:48
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I was just loving around last night after getting caught up with the game. Ypm’s posts were pinging me and everything he has posted since last night has convinced me that he’s scum.
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Apr 11, 2020 00:50
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Your Personal Muse posted:If you, Amnistar, think it might be a gambit, then it is a gambit, because without going into too many details, you would HAVE to be involved if it was real. Like this is not how a town player responds to someone calling them scum. Oh I must be a miller lol
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Apr 11, 2020 00:51
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b-minus1 posted:I was just loving around last night after getting caught up with the game. Ypm’s posts were pinging me and everything he has posted since last night has convinced me that he’s scum. dont be surprised to be turbo'd. ##unvote momentarily to reread ypm's reactions and see if somehow this terribly misinformed town gambit paid off. but probably, you screwed the pooch regardless of your alignment
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Apr 11, 2020 00:51
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b-minus1 posted:Like this is not how a town player responds to someone calling them scum. Oh I must be a miller lol He was detailing how many loving hoops would have to be jumped through for your fake claim to be true not claiming miller you absolute cretin
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Apr 11, 2020 00:59
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Your Personal Muse posted:If you, Amnistar, think it might be a gambit, then it is a gambit, because without going into too many details, you would HAVE to be involved if it was real. this is the only ypm post that could possibly be used as evidence of your gambit working (because it *is* a little weird) but i'm very much not getting "this is not how a town player responds to someone calling them scum" from it. the miller suggestion was only to say "this is how extremely unlikely i find this possibility"
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Apr 11, 2020 01:01
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b-minus1 posted:So much deflection in your recent posts. ##vote ypm What deflection? You completely derailed the conversation. What were we supposed to do, wait for you to come back patiently? Both GOTG and AA didn’t put down an opinion when they first responded, which is what scum would do if they knew you were lying but were trying to see where the winds were blowing. I was prodding them.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:04
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i'm willing to accept that it was a horrible town gambit. we have more than enough time left, and i'd rather get scum than punish binus for being bad.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:04
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I buy b was just bored. It just annoys me that he came Kramering in like he was on to something
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Apr 11, 2020 01:06
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im finding "ypm scum" to be really unlikely because of his case on gotg coming *before* siv's claim, so it'd have to be a majorly lucky coincidence for scum-ypm's chosen push to suddenly get a potential "not same alignment as me" result. of course. siv could be scum and pulling a complicated gambit, but..... occam's razor
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Apr 11, 2020 01:07
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Who has not claimed their night action yet? Their actual night action, not a bizarre lie.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:09
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Dragonatrix posted:##vote ETR Dragonatrix posted:I used my action last night, on AA, and I just got a success with no follow-up so no idea what that did. Judging from this, hard to say if it was much of anything. Dragonatrix posted:If I'm understanding it correctly, wouldn't a Green with no name mean you know someone else visited the same person you did, but not who it was? Dragonatrix posted:Bif was only a messenger, so how did she know that YPM was copped, those results came back as scum and then why choose Binus to send the message to? This has to be scum. ##vote Dragon
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Apr 11, 2020 01:11
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unrelated, i'd like for someone else (sandwolf or amni?) to rolecop me simply for the sake of confirming the things hum has answered about my role.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:12
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Mr. Humalong posted:This has to be scum. ##vote Dragon Can you explain? I don’t follow.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:12
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Hiding behind a night action claim that can't be verified until at least tomorrow (if anyone gives enough of a poo poo to rolecop a lurker), engaging in ~mechanics chat~ to appear helpful, carefully avoiding stating whether or not they believe the binus claim... consider they also bussed ETR a lot
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Apr 11, 2020 01:12
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I think Gamer and Dragon are the only two real options today, as much as I also believe AA is scum. I'd want to see one of them flip first.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:13
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spacing in vienna posted:Gotg it's really interesting to me that you were convinced I was some kind of action detector earlier but sure both that I'm the cop and that I caught YPM now. I think it could be one or the other and said as such.
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Apr 11, 2020 01:15
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Mr. Humalong posted:I think Gamer and Dragon are the only two real options today, as much as I also believe AA is scum. I'd want to see one of them flip first. Given the lunch failed to swing to ETR day 1, I think the decision to bus ETR came day 2. I am not against a dragon lunch (there are a few that I would argue against lunching today), but I think GOTG is more likely (even though I’ll die tonight if SiV’s cop claim is confirmed by GOTG’s flip)
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Apr 11, 2020 01:17
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yes you will absolutely die tonight and not the cop lmao
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Mr. Humalong posted:Ah. Ok I know what most of that means. Weird that the mod decided you are aware of your role...UNLESS YOUR SCUMBRO TOLD YOU ALREADY responding super late to this: its not hard at all to believe being told what his codes mean was enough to constitute being made aware if his role
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