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Also, for all the people handwaving away anything said here as masterbatory or bullshit, by all means go read the many papers and articles on how the US/ROC/PLA expect an invasion to go and what the major factors are. Hint; they're by and large exactly as has been described in this thread.
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Atlas Hugged posted:But Chiang Kai Shek was such an absolute gently caress himself that he genuinely believed that he'd eventually reclaim the mainland.
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Kharnifex posted:Nuking Taiwan would be a massive loss of face Especially for anyone looking towards the blast. Also the easily-verified nature of the periodic military discussion is part of what makes it boring. It's a topic that has received, uh, a lot of professional attention over the years, so short of some massive leap in military technology or huge political upheaval, what more is there to say? Meanwhile, food is delicious.
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Shumagorath posted:It takes some serious effort to be a worse leader than Mao but CKS made it look easy. My favorite CKS trivia is that he was such a poo poo, he became a running joke in the Bush family. Jeb! of course didn't get the joke and thought HW was being totally serious when he talked about "unleashing Chiang" while playing tennis. This culminated in the absolutely bizarre ritual of Jeb! bequeathing a sword to Marco Rubio and dubbing it "the sword of Chiang". LimburgLimbo posted:Edit: you beat me. Also your son can live with running around for 4 months. I'm not worried about him doing it, I'm worried about us forgetting to make sure he's registered and him getting in trouble for not doing it when he goes to visit grandma.
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Atlas Hugged posted:I'm not worried about him doing it, I'm worried about us forgetting to make sure he's registered and him getting in trouble for not doing it when he goes to visit grandma. I mean, don't forget? Also don't worry because there may not be a Taiwan by the time he's of age so worry about it until its time.
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Whilst we are talking about #1 China: What would the absolute worst thing Taiwan could do to piss off the CCP? I mean they have already declared themselves to be fully independent from China, they compete separately in major sporting competitions etc. I am not talking about the UN acknowledging Taiwan as a full member, or WHO letting Taiwan join, or heaven forfend, Qantas listing Taiwan as a separate country on their website etc. Which would piss off the CCP no end. I am specifically asking what Taiwan itself could do to further antagonize the pissbaby CCP. Coz given that their official stances of "Taiwan is 100% China" and "Nuh uh, we aren't. And you are the only people who think so." are already diametrically opposed, I dunno what they could do or say to further distance themselves.
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LimburgLimbo posted:I mean, don't forget? I'll try not to. Point I'm trying to make is that only two hours ago I didn't think the requirement even existed. Something good actually came out of this thread!
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BrigadierSensible posted:Whilst we are talking about #1 China: Deny a few of their citizens from checking into a hotel a day early.
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I have always wondered if US-China relations would ever get so bad where the US would recognize Taiwan as an independent country. My first instinct would be no, but if Trump gets another four years and relations continue to sour I could see it happening. China keeps playing these diplomatic games with the calculation that nobody will call them on their bullshit. At what point does that begin to change, or is it already starting to do so?
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Fojar38 posted:Calling Asia "the East" is weird for real everyone knows you're supposed to call it the orient
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BrigadierSensible posted:Coz given that their official stances of "Taiwan is 100% China" and "Nuh uh, we aren't. And you are the only people who think so." are already diametrically opposed, I dunno what they could do or say to further distance themselves. "taiwan does not belong to china china belongs to taiwan"
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Cheesemaster200 posted:I have always wondered if US-China relations would ever get so bad where the US would recognize Taiwan as an independent country. My first instinct would be no, but if Trump gets another four years and relations continue to sour I could see it happening. trump got a call from the Tsai and he went "got a call from the president of Taiwan congratulating me!" when he won the election. When people were like "uh dont say the quiet part loud" he went "what, it's weird that we sell them millions of dollars weapons and don't acknowledge them" and then he had to backtrack lol
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Alan Smithee posted:trump got a call from the Tsai and he went "got a call from the president of Taiwan congratulating me!" when he won the election. When people were like "uh dont say the quiet part loud" he went "what, it's weird that we sell them millions of dollars weapons and don't acknowledge them" and then he had to backtrack The funniest thing about that was literally everyone and their brother was suddenly an expert on cross-strait relations. Even Dave loving Chappelle had a bit about it. There were so many hot takes.
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Cheesemaster200 posted:I have always wondered if US-China relations would ever get so bad where the US would recognize Taiwan as an independent country. My first instinct would be no, but if Trump gets another four years and relations continue to sour I could see it happening. Trump gets re-elected, everyone everywhere hates China with a passion for loving over the world by unleashing Corona-chan on us, and tens of billions of dollars are spent on-shoring manufacturing in nations that outsourced to China. Then Trump declares Taiwan #1 and moves the 5th fleet into Taiwanese territorial waters and tells Xi to go gently caress himself. General Qui Xin Pao goes off the loving plot and launches a handful of IRBMs at Taiwan, not knowing if they're anti-shipping ballistic missiles or actual nukes, the president orders a full retaliatory strike. The SSBNs Nebraska, Ohio, and Wyoming rise to launch depth, confirm their orders and delete China as a nation-state in about an hour. Taiwan is now free.
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WarpedNaba posted:Hey, I like Dave Chappelle! Yeah but his take on Taiwan wasn't exactly savvy.
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 C-SPAM response: Throatwarbler posted:Have you considered the possibility that maybe white people are bad
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The Great Autismo! posted:
Yeah but http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202004/08/WS5e8dd64aa310e232631a4cbf.html So there you have it no discrimination in China this fits into no propoganda model at all, not even a bit.
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Extremely normalquote:Foreigners in the comic are targeted for "disposal" for a range of other alleged immoral acts, such as publicly praising China but secretly posting anti-China opinions online, scamming Chinese women into providing sex and money, and attacking health workers after testing positive for coronavirus.
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GotLag posted:Extremely normal haier just had too many chicken sandwiches.....
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Tupperwarez posted:Jeez, they're saying all these untrue things about treacherous foreigners. It's like some kind of myth, where foreigners are stabbing China in the back. Better stab 'em in the front so we can save face.
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Booty Pageant posted:rolled up counterfeit polo shirts with exposed belly is the offical wear of the chinese nationalist Proud Boys, 50 Cent Army, Beijing Buzzcut Brigade... man, these new Warhammer 40K chapter names are poo poo.
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Yeah, I went into a wet market trying to get me some Blood Ravens merch. Not a single pewter figure in sight.
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WarpedNaba posted:Yeah, I went into a wet market trying to get me some Blood Ravens merch. Nice. 
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People keep talking about Hong Kong but I wanna know more about hung dong
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Maybe we should forget about letting Taiwan join the WHO, and instead start a new WHO around Taiwan?
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WarpedNaba posted:Yeah, I went into a wet market trying to get me some Blood Ravens merch. Really? When I went to a wet market I had no problems getting Raven's Blood. Freshly squeezed too.
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Stink Billyums posted:TWHO? Maybe "The Guess Who"?
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Who Number One
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Mozi posted:new org WHO dis
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Alan Smithee posted:Who Number One That's what I'm asking!!!
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China is so weak it bans Animal Crossing https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...kong-protesters quote:China is taking on Animal Crossing: New Horizons, blocking its sale on the country's version of ebay. Gotta say, it's pretty sweet https://twitter.com/joshuawongcf/status/1245639425331056640
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