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##vote Infinitum something very off how the ‘doctor’ folded so easily, considering doctor is probably one of the worst roles to be open about
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Infinitum does your role interact with marks in any way like Kash is saying
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Apr 11, 2020 19:20
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Kashuno posted:Town don’t know who town are hope this helps Which is why I have a hard time believing that marking a person blocks a pro-town ability. If marking a person blocks pro-town roles against that person, how is marking suspicious people helpful to town? Even if the marks were only ever placed on scum, it would protect scum from being targeted by pro-town roles. It also seems to flatly contradict the flavor about people listening to marker roles. "Hey everyone, this person is suspicious! Now leave this person alone!"
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Apr 11, 2020 19:21
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Yes that was my original point d1
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Apr 11, 2020 19:41
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dmboogie posted:##vote Infinitum Where did inf claim doctor? I'm not seeing it
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Apr 11, 2020 19:54
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Infinitum posted:I am literally the doctor you dumb loving idiot.
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Apr 11, 2020 19:59
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Retro Futurist posted:Where did inf claim doctor? I'm not seeing it ahahahah
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Apr 11, 2020 20:21
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Ah well, there it is. Yeah I don't buy a bodyguard and doctor
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Apr 11, 2020 20:27
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##vote inf yeah he's got to be grandis partner, I don't buy those two roles next to each other
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Apr 11, 2020 20:57
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Kashuno posted:Since people seriously can’t put basics together. What if there are pro town abilities that only work on people who are marked though?
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Apr 11, 2020 20:59
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even if inf is telling the truth he is a claimed doctor who will from now on be roleblocked or night killed into oblivion, and i don't think he's telling the truth though if he does flip doctor we should circle back to sandwolf
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Apr 11, 2020 21:03
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Hal Incandenza posted:What if there are pro town abilities that only work on people who are marked though? Right that’s why I didn’t vote circl yesterday, I had mechanic reasons to want to vote them but not strong enough because of stuff like that
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Apr 11, 2020 21:04
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##vote RF I don’t buy someone who believes there are two scum teams not believing there could be multiple town protective roles
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Apr 11, 2020 21:05
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Kashuno posted:##vote RF I don’t buy someone who believes there are two scum teams not believing there could be multiple town protective roles Yeah I feel like I have seen plenty of doctors+bodyguards in games this size too ##vote RF
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Apr 11, 2020 21:09
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I'm down for infi and RF just to see how this shakes out. For what it's worth I think marking the same people over and over is dumb.
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Apr 11, 2020 21:10
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dmboogie posted:even if inf is telling the truth he is a claimed doctor who will from now on be roleblocked or night killed into oblivion, and i don't think he's telling the truth Not loving this right here
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Apr 11, 2020 21:10
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Kashuno posted:##vote RF I don’t buy someone who believes there are two scum teams not believing there could be multiple town protective roles Unless there's some aspect to inf's role that he hasn't mentioned no I don't see it, unless he's a scum doc which we know he's not or he would have saved his pal. I tend to think more like a mod than a player but theme's what's whats
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Apr 11, 2020 21:13
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For the record I don't think it's unreasonable to have a doc and bodyguard in a game with the possibility of multiple nks It's inf play surrounding his claim that make me vote him not his claim itself
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Apr 11, 2020 21:27
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Sandwolf claimed 1 use BP/bodyguard, of course there's a loving doctor in the game with 2 killing roles come the gently caress on guys, no one even counterclaimed Inf Claiming like he did was weird but otherwise please let's use common sense
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Apr 11, 2020 21:29
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Deadbeat Dad posted:Sandwolf claimed 1 use BP/bodyguard, of course there's a loving doctor in the game with 2 killing roles come the gently caress on guys, no one even counterclaimed Inf To be clear no body should counter claim him
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Apr 11, 2020 21:37
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Moatillata posted:To be clear no body should counter claim him I would be okay with another doctor counterclaiming him with 2 flipped scum and no flipped town.
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Apr 11, 2020 21:38
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Toalpaz posted:I would be okay with another doctor counterclaiming him with 2 flipped scum and no flipped town. There's no point you can remain anonymous and still vote inf Like a cop, you find a reason to case the scum you cop don't just claim it
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Apr 11, 2020 21:40
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yeah you're right i wasn't thinking ##unvote still completely baffled as to why inf claimed tho
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Apr 11, 2020 21:41
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Moatillata posted:To be clear no body should counter claim him If Inf is fake claiming and we have a shot BP/bodyguard uhhh I absolutely would not mind someone claiming to get rid of 3 scum by D2
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Apr 11, 2020 21:46
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dmboogie posted:even if inf is telling the truth he is a claimed doctor who will from now on be roleblocked or night killed into oblivion, and i don't think he's telling the truth this is extremely suss, if we flip one protective role you want to flip the other? Baaad look
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Apr 11, 2020 21:49
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I think by function of the fact that no one has counterclaimed, I wouldn’t expect one. Inf is prolly just an eager beaver doc
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Apr 11, 2020 21:51
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yeah if doctor exists they should CC inf, and if no one CCs, RF's vote on inf was the worst of the three
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Apr 11, 2020 21:51
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##unvote ugh yeah I guess it kind if works if Sandwolf is technically one shot. I guess I was thinking about the BP differently
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Apr 11, 2020 21:51
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Sandwolf posted:this is extremely suss, if we flip one protective role you want to flip the other? Baaad look yeah i should have thought for like literally a minute before posting lmao
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Apr 11, 2020 21:53
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Retro Futurist posted:##unvote ugh yeah I guess it kind if works if Sandwolf is technically one shot. I guess I was thinking about the BP differently and this feels super self conscious
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Apr 11, 2020 21:53
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Moatillata posted:To be clear no body should counter claim him lmao moat what are you even doing
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Apr 11, 2020 22:07
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i personally am very glad that moat claimed and also outed inf for what seems to be literally no reason
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Apr 11, 2020 22:10
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This is me just questioning moat's logic. Somb may not have made it that easy because it does say in the OP the focus isn't on night-action mafia, but town having just one bodyguard that's a 1 shot BP with 2 scum teams does sound light on protection roles. Wouldn't be shocked if the game had a doctor. Inf was either frustrated town or he's trying some crazy gambit with their being a potential counter claim or being a scum doctor that is like "okay, gently caress it let's try it"
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Apr 11, 2020 22:12
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Hal Incandenza posted:Yeah I feel like I have seen plenty of doctors+bodyguards in games this size too I have too, but not with a bodyguard who's also BP... It's not totally impossible, but especially before the Grandi flip, it should've given Inf way more pause back when he said that on D1 instead of wholehearted blind acceptance. That still seems weird as hell to me, and I still want to hear Inf try and explain what he was thinking in his own words. Retro Futurist posted:Unless there's some aspect to inf's role that he hasn't mentioned no I don't see it, unless he's a scum doc which we know he's not or he would have saved his pal. This is a good point, but of course, he could just be lying about being a doctor in the first place, and sticking to the established fakeclaim breadcrumb he'd worked out so he could be all "choc doc".
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Apr 11, 2020 22:15
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one shot bp on a bodyguard happens so often I almost assumed it was the default so getting up in arms about the BP is weird
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Apr 11, 2020 22:16
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Kashuno posted:one shot bp on a bodyguard happens so often I almost assumed it was the default so getting up in arms about the BP is weird Maybe it's an Auspol difference then
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Apr 11, 2020 22:22
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Sandwolf posted:and this feels super self conscious Yeah that's me, Mr. Self conscious.
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Apr 11, 2020 22:24
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Hal Incandenza posted:What if there are pro town abilities that only work on people who are marked though? I would like to know their thoughts on the too. I asked ulthread but I think ut got overlooked
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Apr 11, 2020 22:36
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one thing im confused about, maybe i just missed it but a lot has happened - does kash know that certain abilities can't target marked people, or is he just guessing?
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Kashuno posted:Since people seriously can’t put basics together. They say can be bad so it sounds like they're not sure, or trying to avoid having people get marked. I'd assume that there are pros/cons for both sides rather than it being solely a town or scum mechanic
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