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pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Pick posted:

Look at the current one, that's no worse than you see in CSPAM every day. But still it's why I think she needs a break for a while because if nothing else she needs to know she needs to take a step back from the ledge.

That said, permas aren't for whoopsies. If someone recreated the PBF comic with a kid running in the background it would be equally dumb to not just have a mod edit it out. This has routinely been the policy with, for example, memes that are offensive that were not realized to be offensive by the poster.

So accidental underage fart fetish porn is a whoopsie now?

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

pentyne posted:

So accidental underage fart fetish porn is a whoopsie now?

And the only accidental part was the underage bit. Even if you ignore that part, she spammed fart fetish porn all over the place, including in a mental health thread. And I doubt she didn’t look at what threads she was posting it in, she knew she was posting it in a mental health thread.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
What the gently caress site am I on

Also, nobody should be using SA for any kind of mental health support. It's not for that, also might randomly disappear at any time

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Avshalom posting a 20,000 word copy pasted fanfic filled with variations of "Aunt Sally walked into the kitchen and ripped a rank SBD" is permaban worthy because the first line was "I'm 15" and not "I'm 18", making it underage porn pedo poo poo. That's the rules.

Scarodactyl
Oct 22, 2015


I don't understand the handwringing over banning terrible posters. Someone like BotL should have been a super easy call imo.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

sourdough posted:

Avshalom posting a 20,000 word copy pasted fanfic filled with variations of "Aunt Sally walked into the kitchen and ripped a rank SBD" is permaban worthy because the first line was "I'm 15" and not "I'm 18", making it underage porn pedo poo poo. That's the rules.

Yes. What part of "don't fetishize or sexualize underage characters" is suddenly shocking?

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

pentyne posted:

Yes. What part of "don't fetishize or sexualize underage characters" is suddenly shocking?

I believe Aunt Sally wasn't underage, and it was her farts being sexualized and fetishised

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


She did sincerely apologise and removed the offending content and said that it was not her intention to post pedo poo poo, that's gotta count for something. Not defending underage porn here but it really seems like the problem is something else.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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it seems they're dumb as poo poo

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


verbal enema posted:

it seems they're dumb as poo poo

we're all goons here

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

People who spam gross porn all over the forums shouldn't be here imho

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

barbecue at the folks posted:

She did sincerely apologise and removed the offending content and said that it was not her intention to post pedo poo poo, that's gotta count for something. Not defending underage porn here but it really seems like the problem is something else.

The problem is everyone suddenly heming and hawwing over what they admit is pedo poo poo and how Avs should get a pass for it for having been funny in the past.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

The Pussy Boss posted:

People who spam gross porn all over the forums shouldn't be here imho

every single person who ever posted in a Game of Thrones thread suddenly sneezes

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

I think avashalom is still allowed to post because she is often one of the funnier posters on the forums. I think it's ok, even good, that better posters may get cut a little more slack once in a while

also, copying and pasting fictional written fart fetish stuff that apparently involved characters under 18 (i haven't and will not read it to verify) is gross and should not be allowed on the forums, or really on the internet in general, but I don't know that it should be considered the same as "posting underage porn."

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

Ugly In The Morning posted:

And the only accidental part was the underage bit. Even if you ignore that part, she spammed fart fetish porn all over the place, including in a mental health thread. And I doubt she didn’t look at what threads she was posting it in, she knew she was posting it in a mental health thread.

one of the funniests posts in the history of this site to me was someone accidentally pasting in fart fetish stuff at the end of a serious reply to a serious subject in E/N and being unable to edit it out (back when edits in E/N were disabled) but then again I am mainly here to laugh

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Puppy Galaxy posted:

I don't know that it should be considered the same as "posting underage porn."

it totally isn't but the taxonomy of copy pasted fetish porn and how many pedophiles creep on the head of a pin is what we've decided to argue about to-day

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

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Avs made a bad call however you slice it and obviously there should be consequences for that. The exact severity of those consequences is something I have little opinion on. Definitely seems like she regularly deliberately gets banned and just flies too close to the sun sometimes, but I also feel like the mods try to be more lenient not bc they're all her friends but bc she's overall a fairly harmless person.

In the end she knows it's play stupid games win stupid prizes. Obviously I'd be very surprised if she was actually a pedophile but it doesn't change the impact of her actions if it was a miscalculated joke. At the same time that's not what she's permabanned for now. So it goes.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

oh, I totally missed that she's perma'd again. Ah well. We'll always have otter guy posts

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I'm sure we'll get the chance to re-litigate the whole thing again in a week or so.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

wait why does TFR have a mental health thread

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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Alaois posted:

wait why does TFR have a mental health thread

Why does the most armed board on the forum have a mental health thread?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Why even care, it's not like permas are actually permanent

avs is gonna reg a weird gimmick account in a week & I look forward to it

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Avs is just going to rereg and fly under the radar in a few quiet threads until an admin notices and runs an IP check or she decides to go on a trolling spree again anyway, yeah.

This isn't me saying "Don't bother with a perma" though because she did have it coming for prioritizing posting underage fart fics she quickly searched up on DA over respecting the boundaries of a mental health thread or even reading the fic to see if it might include underage characters in it. If she feels like gambling her accounts on middling fart literature, that's her prerogative.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



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Nuns with Guns posted:

gambling her accounts on middling fart literature

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Nuns with Guns posted:

Avs is just going to rereg and fly under the radar in a few quiet threads until an admin notices and runs an IP check or she decides to go on a trolling spree again anyway, yeah.

This isn't me saying "Don't bother with a perma" though because she did have it coming for prioritizing posting underage fart fics she quickly searched up on DA over respecting the boundaries of a mental health thread or even reading the fic to see if it might include underage characters in it. If she feels like gambling her accounts on middling fart literature, that's her prerogative.

The whole point of a permaban seems like its used to immediately do the same once someone gets outed as a re-reg of the original perma. Rather then paying $10 to unban a dummy account let her do the same as Dare and vile pilot and just have to create new accounts every time she feels like a posting spree. I'm pretty sure the admins don't check the CC or ip of every new account until the poster does something suspicious that links them to a previous perma'd account.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Alaois posted:

wait why does TFR have a mental health thread

All the other e/n threads say to lock up your guns and throw away the key, but the TFR one says it’s okay to sleep with your security pistol under your pillow

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Arivia posted:

All the other e/n threads say to lock up your guns and throw away the key, but the TFR one says it’s okay to sleep with your security pistol under your pillow

Could you show a post where someone in TFR says that?

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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My security pistol is a .22lr which can be stopped by flexing or leather jackets. A .22lr is weaker than a BB gun. .22lr used to be called "The Nanny Bullet" because they were so safe.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


Nuns with Guns posted:

If she feels like gambling her accounts on middling fart literature, that's her prerogative.

I'm pretty sure it's bottom fart literature, by definition?

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

pentyne posted:

The whole point of a permaban seems like its used to immediately do the same once someone gets outed as a re-reg of the original perma. Rather then paying $10 to unban a dummy account let her do the same as Dare and vile pilot and just have to create new accounts every time she feels like a posting spree. I'm pretty sure the admins don't check the CC or ip of every new account until the poster does something suspicious that links them to a previous perma'd account.

In theory it's meant to be a "ban on sight" thing, I think, but in practice yeah it's just a matter of not raising any flags. SA doesn't a way of tracking every active lurker on the forums if they put themselves on invisible mode, I assume, given the number of bitter stalkers who create accounts just to lurk and report on poo poo to offsites. And the admin tool to do IP checks is something primitive like "X IP address has been used by Y accounts" which can be kind of circumstantial given there are ways to spoof IP addresses or multiple accounts might just share IPs for other reasons. Lowtax insisted there's no way to see credit card info short of calling the payment processing company directly in like a life-threatening emergency or whatever.

Super Soaker Party! posted:

I'm pretty sure it's bottom fart literature, by definition?

It starts in the middle and it all goes down from there.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

ChubbyChecker posted:

Could you show a post where someone in TFR says that?

that was a "joke post" on the "internet forum about jokes", april 13, 2020

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Puppy Galaxy posted:

one of the funniests posts in the history of this site to me was someone accidentally pasting in fart fetish stuff at the end of a serious reply to a serious subject in E/N and being unable to edit it out (back when edits in E/N were disabled) but then again I am mainly here to laugh

The “sporadically ejaculating filth hound” one? That one ruled, and I’m pretty sure that guy actually wrote that himself instead of just searching deviantart. IIRC he did that totally on purpose as a joke, but I don’t remember where he came out and said it.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Ugly In The Morning posted:

The “sporadically ejaculating filth hound” one? That one ruled, and I’m pretty sure that guy actually wrote that himself instead of just searching deviantart. IIRC he did that totally on purpose as a joke, but I don’t remember where he came out and said it.

Too well crafted to not be a joke.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Just ironically posting pages and pages of fart fetish erotica, again, for the Nth time, totally ironically, lol what do you think it smells like haha

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Captain Hygiene posted:

Too well crafted to not be a joke.

For sure, normally if someone tried to play that off as a joke, I wouldn’t buy it. That was just so incredible it’s like “yep, that checks out”. Does anyone have the post handy?

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Ugly In The Morning posted:

For sure, normally if someone tried to play that off as a joke, I wouldn’t buy it. That was just so incredible it’s like “yep, that checks out”. Does anyone have the post handy?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3386887&pagenumber=590

(no I didn't have it bookmarked)

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Arivia posted:

that was a "joke post" on the "internet forum about jokes", april 13, 2020

Don't quit your day job.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

ChubbyChecker posted:

Don't quit your day job.

yes I am very worried about losing income from the crucial demographic of "crazies with deadly weapons"

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"
I think avs posts some funny poo poo. I also think that spamming underage fart porn, then immediately revisiting and shitposting in one of the threads that caught her the perma was dumb. I think it's within the purview of the mods/admins to decide that they no longer want to deal with this kind of poo poo. It's the same reason why crazy cloud and Dickeye are perma'd.

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Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

PetraCore posted:

Avs made a bad call however you slice it
The sheer number of people crawling out of the woodwork to defend her and trying to claim she was perma'd for things she in fact was not seems to say that people are desperately trying to slice it otherwise.

She was allowed back, after she promised to stop making threats against the muppet. Again- it does not matter how obviously a joke the threat is. It does not matter how clearly impossible the claim of her actions is. The Secret Service do not care, and the phrase 'by any means necessary' is very much a veiled threat.

Lowtax has, in the past, already been visited by the G-Men because of this poo poo. More than once, I'm told. He is not keen on seeing them again.

Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 13, 2020

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