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Infinitum posted:Yeah nah. There do not appear to be vanilla roles. Also Kash was more of a limited... Jailer type? Doctor type? He could "protect" one unmarked person. My role lets me block one multi-marked person. They are both super limited roles overall. If anything your unlimited doc of anyone is the outlier in what we have seen so far
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Hal Incandenza posted:Inf I am unclear what you are saying about boogie/sandwolf. Are you saying the existence of their roles sort of complement each other? Like boogies vig as scum means sandwolfs bodyguard as scum makes sense? Like if they are on different scum teams? Yes sorry. This is what I was getting at and should have tl;dr'd a bit better. ilmucche posted:5, since we're all coming clean. I can watch and protect one specific person .... this is a bastard setup isn't it.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:02
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Infinitum posted:.... this is a bastard setup isn't it. I don't know what that means.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:05
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I'm joking that Somber is actively loving with us with this setup.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:08
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ilmucche, you've essentially cruised by most of this game on the coattails of being the newbie. Who are your top suspects for scum, and why?
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Apr 14, 2020 12:10
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ilmucche posted:5, since we're all coming clean. I can watch and protect one specific person Lol seriously what Btw Inf you seem to still have the wrong idea about Kash's role, I read it that way for just a second at first the way he worded it but it did not in fact act as a super blanket protection on all unmarked people.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:13
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I think now I'm starting to be most suss of Inf after all just for his "choc doc" claim being the only totally classic normal goddamn role around here
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Apr 14, 2020 12:16
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Yeah fair point. With the number of protective roles coming out of the woodwork I fee like there is very much 2 scum teams to warrant this amount of night fuckery. ilmucche posted:5, since we're all coming clean. I can watch and protect one specific person I'd like your exact role name please, you're being too vague with this.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:17
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Bifauxnen posted:I think now I'm starting to be most suss of Inf after all just for his "choc doc" claim being the only totally classic normal goddamn role around here It's not my fault I'm normal  Bif what are your thoughts on one of the Markers being scum?
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Apr 14, 2020 12:19
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Infinitum posted:It's not my fault I'm normal I think it makes sense to have one of em be scum, yeah But since it makes sense to have one of em be scum, it would also make sense to make them all town just to fake us out so Somber can laugh at us thinking one of them just HAS to be a scumbo So I would prefer to go by voting behaviour and tone reads etc etc rather than count a mark role as any evidence at this point in and of itself
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Apr 14, 2020 12:22
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Bifauxnen posted:I think it makes sense to have one of em be scum, yeah Yeah too soon to say, but teeing up a townie to be vigged at night by another scum would be pretty good play
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Apr 14, 2020 12:25
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Sake of the argument Bif: Out of the 2 remaining Markers, Circl + Yami, if you had to pick one as scum; who would you pick? And just for clarity, I feel the glut of Protective claims warrants closer inspection as well today. Hal Incandenza posted:Yeah too soon to say, but teeing up a townie to be vigged at night by another scum would be pretty good play And potentially the other scum team as well.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:27
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Infinitum posted:Bif: Out of the 2 remaining Markers, Circl + Yami, if you had to pick one as scum; who would you pick? I'd pick Yami. I was suss on Circl before, but he'd have to also be a godfather which I still think would be weird... Ah gently caress but everything here is freakin weird Yeah now that you ask it again and we've got everyone claimed I'm not so sure. I do still think Yami has read as town in tone to me all along, I just know that isn't foolproof if he's hunting for the other scumteam in all honesty.
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Apr 14, 2020 12:37
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Infini all of your current reads have been setup spec imo. Is there anything scummy sandwolfs has done in particular?
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Here's my updated state of affairs. I got everyone in tiers of two rn rather than a nice purely vertical Lumpenlist. From towniest to scummiest: Toalpaz is my single towniest read, while dmboogie I see as most likely a town vig. Pure mechanics aside, wanting to use his ability to get in an extra kill on RF who looked scummy as gently caress, and not waste the lunch seems like legit townie helpful intent too. ilmucche + Hal - there's been so little to judge from either of them I can't possibly decide which is a more likely godfather rn. That's how I ended up even picking this lot, I thought I'd scan over the lurkiest peeps to give me a reason to bother pursuing them at all, cause people usually like to put it off forever saying lurker lunches give us nothing to go on. Yami + CirclMastr - Circl is probably most likely out of my group to be a godfather imo. Even ignoring the setup spec around who's got marks, the way he used it D1 did seem scummier than Yami. Sandwolf + Inf - I think Inf's claim is looking even more suspicious than Sandwolf's, from both a setup spec point of view and also from him being uncritical of Sandwolf's initial claim. But I like Inf's posting more, overall. When he came to catch up near the end of D1 in particular, he had such a strong town tone to me, like he was really dropping in ready to actually help. But again, he could have done that as a scum agenuinely opposed to Hum. Sandwolf would be more likely allied with Hum, since he wouldn't even vote Hum to save his own skin. I'm leaning towards seeing Inf as scummier rn but I'd be happy to lunch either one of these two today and think it should be one of them. Withholding my vote though since that'd put Inf at -2 when we still have over 24 hours.
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This is feeling very much like the blood scene from The Thing to me atm. I know I'm human, but I don't for the life of me have a strong town vibe from anybody else atm. Toalpaz posted:Infini all of your current reads have been setup spec imo. Is there anything scummy sandwolfs has done in particular? There's nothing wrong with setup spec as this game has more layers than an onion at this point. I have shifted to this, as I have been wrong about a number of players thus far, as my gut reads have been off on a number of players. Tonally I don't like either of Sandwolf or Circl very much in how they read, but their behaviour strikes my as suspcious. I don't like Sandwolf from a setup perspective. I feel the 1 shot bulletproof bodyguard is a generic level Godfather cover claim. I would also put forward that Circl Mastr has all of 36 posts in a game with close to 1300 posts, and is very much lurking in the shadows, only appearing to Mark people and then disappear into the ether.
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Apr 14, 2020 13:22
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Bif, wouldn't scum boogie want nothing more than to let us shift the vote from RF to another townie so they could get an extra kill in at night? Not sure that's what happened but I don't see how that path is more townie than scummy
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Apr 14, 2020 13:24
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Actually yeah. Circlmastr has said nothing of value all game other than generic bland non-committal reads. You can count on one hand the number of times they've posted more than one sentence. ##vote Circlmastr
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Apr 14, 2020 13:28
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Hal Incandenza posted:Bif, wouldn't scum boogie want nothing more than to let us shift the vote from RF to another townie so they could get an extra kill in at night? Well, it's that on top of the fact that we had a glut of three kills last night. There could be ways around it but I think town vig is the most likely explanation. Especially with all these extra block or protection claims rolling in, two scum kills doesn't freakin seem like enough now
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Apr 14, 2020 13:33
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Bifauxnen posted:Well, it's that on top of the fact that we had a glut of three kills last night. There could be ways around it but I think town vig is the most likely explanation. Especially with all these extra block or protection claims rolling in, two scum kills doesn't freakin seem like enough now That’s fair, scum seem pretty powerful without the vig, but of course everyone has claimed a protective role too so it’s not completely out of the question
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Apr 14, 2020 13:34
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Wouldn't scum godfather post more than 30 times? That reads to me that town and doesn't care about the game. Also we should vote out Yami cause his replacement may never come and or Yami should just post role pm.
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Apr 14, 2020 16:36
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Toalpaz posted:Wouldn't scum godfather post more than 30 times? That reads to me that town and doesn't care about the game. Humalong already agreed to being a replacement. Somber's just not around yet.
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Apr 14, 2020 16:38
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Yami Fenrir posted:Humalong already agreed to being a replacement. Somber's just not around yet. Humalong is actually already a member of this game and also a mafia member.
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Apr 14, 2020 16:40
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... Right. Ignore me then, I just saw the post in the mafia discussion thread.
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Toalpaz posted:Wouldn't scum godfather post more than 30 times? That reads to me that town and doesn't care about the game. That's a good point for all three of them really, they've all been quiet and holding back compared to the rest of the game. Hal the least, though, recently.
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Sorry, I kinda don't even know what to post. Like I said, everyone I was suspicious of flipped town, I clearly don't know how to do reads in this game.Infinitum posted:With the number of protective roles coming out of the woodwork I fee like there is very much 2 scum teams to warrant this amount of night fuckery. How is this even up for debate? Didn't the number of kills N2 prove that there are two scum teams plus boogie's night vig? Two scum teams with 2 people each make total sense, and with two scum from different teams dead, scum don't know who else is scum. The way the mark things have cone out, I would be way more suspicious of a protective claim that didn't interact with marks than any other roleclaim. And if you are going to be suspicious of a marker, I'm the one who came out first about the vagueness of what marks do in my role PM. Yami just parroted me on it. I would still question all these protections over markers, but I've clearly been wrong as hell before.
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hi I'm replacing yami bif scum, I'm scum, who else is scum?
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SolusLunes will be replacing Yami Fenrir. There will not be any replacements after this. Votefinder doesn't seem to want to replace Solus yet, I will try once they have made a post. edit: Replacing wasn't working with votefinder, I just manually adjusted. Sorry for any inconvenience ya'll. Votecount for Day 3   Infinitum (2): dmboogie, Sandwolf CirclMastr (1): Infinitum Sandwolf (0): Bifauxnen, Hal Incandenza (0): Sandwolf, Not Voting (6): Bifauxnen, CirclMastr, Hal Incandenza, ilmucche, SolusLunes, ToalpazWith 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 15th, 2020 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 day, 8 hours. dmboogie was MARKED day one! Yami Fenrir was MARKED night two! Infinitum was MARKED day three!
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SolusLunes posted:hi I'm replacing yami Now this! This is the post of a town... ##unvote
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Welp, guess I'm getting marked then lmfao
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Infinitum posted:ilmucche, you've essentially cruised by most of this game on the coattails of being the newbie. ilmucche posted:That's a good point toal, it's unfortunate that the three claimed were circl me and Hal as there's no way to verify the claim. Does ecco cop only show alignment and not role? I'm still kind of here, but backed off on hal since I can't really look at someone for lurking since I don't post much either. Yami probably the most, but I'm pretty suspicious of every one. I think I posted my yami reasoning a page or two ago, based around their case of toal on day 1 which I was already was suspicious of, and how yami tried to say I followed them into a vote on toal when I was going off my own different read (I didn't care about, and probably shouldn't, bring up the unvote), and using that as a reason to lunch me. I'd said that since yami was driving hard at toal that I'd be okay lunching toal, but if toal was revealed town I'd want to go after yami. I'm convinced toal is town now so I'm still running with that. After that probably sandwolf, then a tie for everyone else except toal. I don't know what to make of anyone and yami is probably my strongest lean. I'd probably follow whatever toal votes after yami as despite me not being a fan of their attitude to me being poo poo and them thinking they're good, I am pretty lost and they do seem pretty good. ilmucche posted:
I still don't understand what sandwolf is saying here, that dmboogie claimed they were going to kill RF and didn't so boogie could do something else? Toal tracked boogie to RF though.
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Solus mark bif and or... Ilmucche and or......... Hal imo.... And or......................... Bif is probably the best. I'm tracker who can track marked people.
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SolusLunes posted:hi I'm replacing yami I'm scum too
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ilmucche posted:I'm scum too Tch tch tch Another beginner mistake.
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While we wait for Solus to catch up I've got a new bit I'm workshoping that I was wondering if you all can tell me is funny or not.
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It's a bit where I refer to every newer player as ilmucche indiscriminately and for seemingly no reason.
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Toalpaz posted:It's a bit where I refer to every newer player as ilmucche indiscriminately and for seemingly no reason. Please don't make this any more confusing for me then it already is. ##vote ilmucche
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Toalpaz posted:Solus mark bif and or... Ilmucche and or......... Hal imo.... And or......................... Hmm. I WAS going to mark bif but now that you want me to, and bif expects me to...
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