Pussy Quipped posted:

They are just picking out low-content posters to see what sticks. See: humalong yesterday

Kloaked00 posted:

Which also leads to my further support of doing E+ today since he threw down a very non-chalant vote on KK to make him -1

Amnistar posted:

scum team include:

spoonsy - "all we learned is that there are teachers and students, we have nothing to go on and no way to know who is scum!"

cap Andy - "There is no way to put down any real reads D1. KK is scum, they only have 5 votes, unlike my 1."

TT - "You know who is scum Amni-That xopods guy!"

Spoonsy posted:

You're really going to keep harping on something other players, who are not on this list, have told you is an extension aren't you

Amnistar posted:

I actually said "Oh, I guess this wasn't a scum slip. I t is a stupid thing to say though." earlier in the thread.

Pussy Quipped posted:

They are just picking out low-content posters to see what sticks. See: humalong yesterday

Spoonsy posted:

Yes but your vote still stays on me

Amnistar posted:

yea, because it's excusing yourself from playing the game by saying "we learned nothing."

Amnistar posted:

yea, because it's excusing yourself from playing the game by saying "we learned nothing."

Amnistar posted:

yea, because it's excusing yourself from playing the game by saying "we learned nothing."

Spoonsy posted:

No I'm saying that on D1, we don't get much but as the game evolves, then we can get reads. Which, I would argue, is precisely what we're doing right now.

I dislike D1 when viewed on D1, not when viewed beyond it.

kingcobweb posted:

xopods practically required us yesterday to give him a thorough investigation because he was so adamant about how he’s The One Pushing The KK Wagon, so I have no idea why we’d give him any room today

Epsilon Plus posted:

I may be a simple country Mafia player, but this reeks of scum meltdown

##vote Khris Kruel pretty convinced this is a good call, and also idk if I can take 24 more hours of this

Tom Tucker posted:

[vote analysis]

yuming posted:

Thanks for the nice summary post

TT's post also makes me realize a lot of the players I'm suspicious of voted in line for KK. Don't think they're all scum together, obvs.

++town point to TT after reading that post. Also agree with his take on spoonsy as neutral-town. spoonsy also reads genuine to me.

I am going to wait on the whole Amnistar thing for now, I can't get a good read on him.

CapnAndy posted:

So I don't like the xopods case, and here's why in a nutshell:
That's true, he absolutely did that. And if he's scum and therefore knew ahead of time that KK would flip town, why would he possibly do that? Why draw that much attention to yourself and guarantee multiple people casing you, especially on D1?

zzyzx posted:

If he flips town, at some point you're obviously going to make a post that says you're town because you leaned into the lynch and Took Responsibility for it. It's weird that this is something you feel you need to plan ahead of time.

xopods posted:

What do you want me to do, vote myself?

I take responsibility for my mistake, but I'm not Scum. I honestly thought KK was Scum.

Amnistar posted:

I'm not scum. You can tell this because ASAPRockySituation was not killed last night.

Hal Incandenza posted:

What does this mean?

kingcobweb posted:

xopods practically required us yesterday to give him a thorough investigation because he was so adamant about how he’s The One Pushing The KK Wagon, so I have no idea why we’d give him any room today

##vote xopods

He barely even acknowledged what he did yesterday in his posts today

kingcobweb posted:

What am I missing about KK, they've barely posted

kingcobweb posted:

I don't like the wagon on KK at all.

Also, instead of "lunch," how about "guillotine"

kingcobweb posted:

You're being a dick, and we're not doing anything more productive day one than killing the wagon'd person who's being a dick.

I still think you are town- or at least, no more likely scum than a random player- but you are making the game monumentally unpleasant and not contributing.

For everyone analyzing my hammer during twilight, and during the day tomorrow: yes, I know the deadline isn't for anything 20-ish hours. Yes, I know I could let more people contribute. And I still think that there are plenty of other people more likely to be scum.

Consider this a policy guillotine (I'm trying to make this catch on) for acting like you've been acting.

##vote: Khris Kruel

yuming posted:

Dearest friends, what do you think of kingcobweb?

zzyzx posted:

Mikujin posted:

Can you tell us what "notes" you are basing any other these statements on? What made me concerned is that I was sure I hadn't done any flavor commentary (I even doubled-back to check because I was really confident about this!), so this struck me simply as a post intended to look like content without actually being content. Every "note" you've taken seems to be extremely safe, you don't really commit to feelings on anyone who isn't town (or KK, I guess).

Mikujin posted:

This post felt weird to me, and not just because my name is in it - although that does kinda come up in a way. So I've got two questions for you, Kash:

- At this point, you've made literally no mention of me - so I'm obviously curious: why am I suddenly in your top two best votes for the day?
- Second: you had recently (in game time) signed of Scientastic as not scummy enough to vote. Which, of course, begs the question: what changed? The posts quoted and linked are distant chronologically, so some latitude is warranted, but prior to the sudden "I'd vote them post" you'd not made mention. While I realize Sci is dead, I'd still appreciate an answer.

Mikujin posted:

I've been pretty clear that I'm not keen on Xopods at the moment.

xopods posted:

I hadn't noticed. What do you find scummy about me?

MAFIA EDIT - Mikujin posted:

I've been pretty clear that I'm not keen on Xopods at the moment.

Spoonsy posted:

This is probably going to make people think I'm an idiot, but I don't know yet! We've had one day, a town lynch, two dead townies, 3 missing people, and the only thing I think we can say with some certainty is that there's professor town and student town.

I do not feel like I personally have enough information YET (emphasis mine) to declare that someone is or is not town - that's the sort of stuff that normally comes into play with conversations like this on Day 2, which is why I'm trying to respond to as much as I can

(also real talk I am so unused to playing town and it's been so long that I don't know what I'm doing wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee)

Amnistar posted:

This is absolutely a scumslip.

##vote spoonsy

Pussy Quipped posted:

E+. xopods, and kashuno are who im going to be looking at today based on my re-reading end of day and twilight.

kingcobweb posted:

xopods practically required us yesterday to give him a thorough investigation because he was so adamant about how he’s The One Pushing The KK Wagon, so I have no idea why we’d give him any room today

##vote xopods

He barely even acknowledged what he did yesterday in his posts today

Amnistar posted:

I hope you don't get cuddled here. You're one of my solid town reads.

xopods posted:

Weird how you focus on this and ignore the cases DBD and merk made on you. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that I'm the only one of the three of us anyone else wants to lunch.

Jose Valasquez posted:

This Jen X obsession is weird, nobody is bandwagoning you to save Jen X from your one vote.

Are you actually the role you say is hunting you and trying to kill Jen?

Mikujin posted:

Why is DBD the case-maker on KK now? Looking back, your narrative has always been about how you and merk were the torch-bearers of the KK lynch-mob. Looking back, DBD didn't even case KK, but rather indicated he was getting gut reaction vibes from a few posts (he doesn't even vote KK at this point, ostensibly the "case").

For someone who was constantly developing a narrative of taking "responsibility" for KK flipping town, this is a convenient rewrite.

xopods posted:

That's all. DBD didn't push the case as hard as either me or merk after that, but I've been including him from the start as one of the case-makers because all three of us spotted more or less the same things about KK's posting at about the same time.

kingcobweb posted:

You're being a dick, and we're not doing anything more productive day one than killing the wagon'd person who's being a dick.

I still think you are town - or at least, no more likely scum than a random player- but you are making the game monumentally unpleasant and not contributing.

For everyone analyzing my hammer during twilight, and during the day tomorrow: yes, I know the deadline isn't for anything 20-ish hours. Yes, I know I could let more people contribute. And I still think that there are plenty of other people more likely to be scum.

Consider this a policy guillotine (I'm trying to make this catch on) for acting like you've been acting.

##vote: Khris Kruel

xopods posted:

DBD made a case on KK at the exact same time I was writing my post about him. If you look at my original KK vote post you'll see I preview-edited to express mock dismay that he'd beaten me to catching (who I thought was) the scum.

Then merk joined in shortly thereafter.

That's all. DBD didn't push the case as hard as either me or merk after that, but I've been including him from the start as one of the case-makers because all three of us spotted more or less the same things about KK's posting at about the same time.

Jose Valasquez posted:

Trap sprung. Only a death eater would vote for me! ##vote Scientastic

Jose Valasquez posted:

I'm fine with the KK launch, you can pretend I voted for him, I'm just holding off in case anyone else wants to say anything before hammer.

Jose Valasquez posted:

I generally agree with everyone who says D1 sucks always and if you execute scum you usually got lucky.

Out of everything posted so far Scientastic's posts bug me the most, the out of the gate liger case felt uninspiring and forced but I lean "bad townie d1 case" more than "bad scum d1 case"

bowmore and yuming and ASAPRockySituation should post more

Jose Valasquez posted:

This is a common complaint with me on day 1.

I'm not good at identifying scum on day 1 (and I argue nobody is, sometimes people are just lucky) and I think that executing scum on d1 is usually counterproductive because it doesn't give them enough time to tie themselves to their scum buddies.

None of the existing arguments are compelling to me, it all just reads like the usual d1 bickering that happens. I've even reread most of the post histories in the game looking for something because I want to get the game moving, but there just isn't anything there yet.

Jose Valasquez posted:

At this point we are all pretty much rookies again

xopods posted:

Sci is acting like Kellyanne to KK's Donald, repeating his talking points, justifying his behaviour. It's weird and feels not genuine... I feel like even a Townie who thought this was a bad lunch would be expressing more curiousity about the flip and perhaps thinking aloud about how a Scum or not-Scum flip would change his opinions about others.

It feels like he already knows what the flip will be, though why he'd be acting this way is less clear.

If KK's scum, maybe he's hoping we'll all say "well I thought he was defending a scumbuddy before, but why would he go on defending him so hard after he was already hammered?"
If KK's not scum, I guess the upside is more obvious, that he increases his own credibility and perhaps undermines the confidence of everyone who was fully convinced of KK's scumminess at the end.

(If anyone's wondering why I'm saying "not Scum" rather than "Town," I think there's some chance he ends up flipping 3P if his claim turns out to be true, since 3Ps hunting each other is a pretty common game-within-a-game in big setups).

Mikujin posted:

As much as I wanna sympathize with voting the insufferable jerk off the island, I just don't like the game day ending early and I feel like this is sketchy.