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TOOT BOOT posted:I'll be devastated if my favorite local Italian chain goes under, I've been going there for 25 years and most of the other local poo poo is disgusting we've got an olive garden here too but i don't really like it
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ShadowHawk posted:"The Chinese have better internet connections than we do" should be a major campaign talking point https://www.smh.com.au/technology/serious-flaws-in-turnbulls-nbn-costbenefit-analysis-report-20140908-10dqu0.html posted:In their cost-benefit analysis of the national broadband network, the Vertigan panel predicts that in 2023, an average Australian household will require a broadband download speed of 15 megabits per second (Mbps).
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also keep in mind that most landlords are also leveraged to their eyeballs and are going to squeeze every drop of blood from those stones long term consequences be damned
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PIZZA.BAT posted:also keep in mind that most landlords are also leveraged to their eyeballs and are going to squeeze every drop of blood from those stones long term consequences be damned yeah that's the real problem, a landlord can't just decide to cut you a break on the rent out of the kindness of their hearts. that would lead to the pressure being placed on them by the bank that owns their mortgage. government needs to step in and order the entire system to come to a halt
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i think i'd have a heart attack if i ever didn't have at least half a year's worth of expenses in cash savings. after grad school i ran out of money and i have since organized my lifestyle to never do that ever again (touching computers certainly helps)
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yeah under "normal" circumstances i've always figured that if i hit the point where i was down to six months of cash in savings, i'd ask to move back in with my mother at least until i got poo poo sorted out again. now that we're in a loving depression i'm pretty sure if i lost my job i'd immediately move back in.
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another thing with restaurants is they probably had 2-10k or more in unsold inventory when they closed, just on the wasted food they'd already had stocked or ordered. if you fired your staff for the interim, it's probably going to be hard to find new staff, especially if you're serving a specialty cuisine that not everyone knows how to cook. i think most restaurants around here just kept most of the staff they could afford to, and all the workers in the kitchen for the time being, making do with delivery and carryout. one nice thing is they've loosened the alcohol laws, so places around here can now sell you alcohol to go with your meal
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some pretty good news out of stockholm, in that not everyone is dead and early antibody tests (with very small samples granted) suggest that immunity is in the double digits. not enough for much in the way of herd immunity, but makes the curve-flattening easier and easier.
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plz stop using the phrase "herd immunity" in that context
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lancemantis posted:plz stop using the phrase "herd immunity" in that context sorry, i thought that was the appropriate use?
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"herd immunity" is more formally used for the process of deliberately creating immunity in the greater population i.e. vaccinations to protect the more vulnerable in your population i.e. the people ineligible for those vaccinations the herd immunity term thrown around today is just political whitewashing for "we're just going to do a little as possible because we must worship the moloch of capital and just hope that the death and other tolls is politically navigable"
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lancemantis posted:plz stop using the phrase "herd immunity" in that context what's a better phrase in that context
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politically acceptable manslaughter
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so what term do you use for when a population is statistically made quite safe from a disease by the same mechanism but the cause is wide-spread infection instead of vaccination?
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lancemantis posted:politically acceptable manslaughter the median voter won't die of coronavirus, but does need a job. checkmate libtards 
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:so what term do you use for when a population is statistically made quite safe from a disease by the same mechanism but the cause is wide-spread infection instead of vaccination? lancemantis posted:politically acceptable manslaughter
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come on, don't be a hysteric about words. vaccines are very far away and this mechanism that should apparently stay unnamed will have a huge impact even in the context of extremely complete lockdown scenarios. it needs to be tracked and understood, and it is in that process helpful if it can be named
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"Confucius say, Every Disease is Actually A Vaccine" -- Neoliberals
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:come on, don't be a hysteric about words. vaccines are very far away and this mechanism that should apparently stay unnamed will have a huge impact even in the context of extremely complete lockdown scenarios. it needs to be tracked and understood, and it is in that process helpful if it can be named Frenching Up Barbarism
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you're letting a bunch of politicians goad you into believing horseshit with abuse of terminology to lend pseudo-scientific credence maybe we should just end childhood vaccination because who needs the MMR kids can totally make it through it, sure some of them will die or be sterilized or have other lifelong negative outcomes, but we can save a lot of money and we'll have some kind of "herd immunity" totally
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i mean, being in sweden i already live in a neoliberal hellscape ruled by brutes (the social democrats) set on killing us all by never having a hard lockdown to start with. my own impending death makes it pretty easy to look at the statistics pretty dispassionately and enjoy the bits that look kind of ok. i honestly really doubt that any amount of politics, especially online forum posting politics, will prevent the us from effectively taking the same route shortly. sorry.
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dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed, but like, actually this time 
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TOOT BOOT posted:dehumanize yourself and lungs to virusshed
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lancemantis posted:you're letting a bunch of politicians goad you into believing horseshit with abuse of terminology to lend pseudo-scientific credence all the qualified people to comment on this have been saying we need to slow this down until we reach herd immunity or find a vaccine though
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I mean I just hate people letting politicians getting away with that garbage, whether or not we can do anything about it we can but we also can't
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me, has no idea how long post-illness immunity to covi lasts or is expected to last, pointing to a seagull: “herd immunity”
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Uptime Sinclair posted:me, has no idea how long post-illness immunity to covi lasts or is expected to last, pointing to a seagull: “herd immunity” it's literally our only hope besides finding an effective treatment
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im quarantining with a hostess who was doing just fine with tip pooling. She got fired to collect the unemployment benefits but if she and her roommates cant cover rent in another couple months (as its looking likely) they will all be evicted ASAP. deliveries help stem the bleeding to mostly rent but its very insecure and doesn't matter if the restaurant llc survives on deliveries but you're completely destitute in 3 months.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:it's literally our only hope besides finding an effective treatment
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i think i'd have a heart attack if i ever didn't have at least half a year's worth of expenses in cash savings I’ve got about a weeks worth of living left before I hit the limit on my credit card and then I just don’t know what I’d do. Hopefully this week will organise a 6 month mortgage holiday. I’m about 5 years away from being debt free if I continue working full time and can start to save a dollar. gently caress being alive sucks some times. I resent aborning terrible money skills from my dad.
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DuckConference posted:trump tweeted that all immigration would be temporarily suspended, which it kind of already is since the offices are closed but who knows is ICE still operating?
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TOOT BOOT posted:The price of oil is literally negative right now, I didn't even know that was possible just the contract that settles tomorrow op
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