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StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

pentyne posted:

Did Rothfuss ever get on that cruiseship? Is he now banned from re entering the country for 2-4 weeks?

I saw other people on the ship announce that they were home, so there wasn't a quarantine on that one. It's the one ship that made it back. Really important because Rothfuss has a lot of work to do.

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Marin Karin
Jul 29, 2011

What are you, compared to my magnificence?
I genuinely forget this guy and Ernest Cline are different people. I always think, “Rothfuss’ poem about nerd porn was weird” before correcting myself

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Marin Karin posted:

I genuinely forget this guy and Ernest Cline are different people. I always think, “Rothfuss’ poem about nerd porn was weird” before correcting myself

Ah, the other "once a generation great author" who violently poo poo the bed once he started writing more.

I've seen some pretty bad reviews, but nothing like how people tore in Armada when it came out.

StonecutterJoe
Mar 29, 2016

Marin Karin posted:

I genuinely forget this guy and Ernest Cline are different people. I always think, “Rothfuss’ poem about nerd porn was weird” before correcting myself

Rothfuss wants to gently caress the nerdy girl who didn't know he existed in high school. Ernest Cline wants to gently caress the 1980s.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
now he's free to spread plague!

the plague of not finishing your book!

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

HIJK posted:

now he's free to spread plague!

the plague of not finishing your book!

Isn’t that the purpose of that podcast?

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
wrong thread whoops

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Marin Karin posted:

I genuinely forget this guy and Ernest Cline are different people. I always think, “Rothfuss’ poem about nerd porn was weird” before correcting myself

Wait, isn't the beat poetry nerd porn Rothfuss's? What did Ernest Cline write in the same vein?

I do get how they'd be confused. Both were insanely overhyped dreck writers who accurately focused in on their genre's demographic.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

PJOmega posted:

Wait, isn't the beat poetry nerd porn Rothfuss's? What did Ernest Cline write in the same vein?

I do get how they'd be confused. Both were insanely overhyped dreck writers who accurately focused in on their genre's demographic.

Ernest loving Cline posted:

Nerd Porn Auteur

I've noticed that there don't seem to be any porno movies

that are made for guys like me.

All the porn I've come across

was targeted at beer-swilling sports bar dwelling alpha-males

Men who like their women stupid and submissive

Men who can only get it up for monosyllabic cock-hungry nymphos

with gargantuan breasts and a three-word vocabulary

Adult films are populated with these collagen-injected

liposuctioned women

Many of whom have resorted to surgery and self-mutilation

in an attempt to look the way they have been told to look.

These aren't real women. They're objects.

And these movies aren't erotic. They're pathetic.

These vacuum-headed gently caress bunnies don't turn me on.

They disgust me.

And it's not that I'm against pornography.

I mean, I'm a guy. And guys need porn.

Fact.

"Like a preacher needs pain, like a needle needs a vein,"

Guys need porn.

But I don't wanna watch this misogynist he-man woman-hater porn.

I want porno movies that are made with guys like me in mind:

Guys who know that the sexiest thing in the world

is a woman who is smarter than you are.

You can have the whole cheerleading squad,

I want the girl in the tweed skirt and the horn-rimmed glasses:

Betty Finnebowski, the valedictorian.

Oh yes.

First I want to copy her Trig homework,

and then I want to make mad, passionate love to her

for hours and hours

until she reluctantly asks if we can stop

because she doesn't want to miss Battlestar Galactica.

Summa cum laude, baby!

That is what I call erotic.

But do you ever see that kind of a woman in a contemporary adult film?

No.

Which is why I'm going to start writing and directing Geek Porno.

I shall be the quintessential Nerd Porn Auteur.

And the women in my porno movies will be the kind

that drive nerds like me mad with desire.

I'm talking about the girls that used to gently caress up the grading curve.

The girls in the Latin Club and the National Honor Society.

Chicks with weird clothes, braces, four eyes, and 4.0 GPAs.

Brainy articulate bookworms, with MENSA cards in their purses

and chips on their shoulders.

My porn starlets will come in all shapes and sizes.

My porn starlets will be too busy working on their PhD to go to the gym.

In my kind of porno movies the girls wouldn't even have to get naked.

They'd just take the guys down to the rec room and

beat them repeatedly at chess

and then talk to them for hours about Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

or the underlying social metaphors in the Aliens movies.

Buy stock in some hand cream companies

because there is about to be a major shortage.

And I'm not just talking about straight porn. Oh no.

There should be gently caress films for my nerd brethren

of all sexual orientations.

Gay nerd porn flicks with titles like "Dungeons and Drag-queens."

This idea is a loving gold mine.

I am gonna make millions,

because this country is full of database programmers

and electronics engineers

and they aren't getting the loving they so desperately need.

And you can help . . .

If you're an intelligent woman is interested in breaking into the adult film industry,

and if you can tell me the name of Luke Skywalker's home planet,

then you are hired.

It doesn't matter if you think you're overweight or unattractive.

It doesn't matter if you don't think you're beautiful.

You are beautiful. . .

And I will make you a star.

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

i can't believe you've done this

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
After reading some of that I have to ask... have we ever seen Rothfuss and Cline in the same place?

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

They're completely different! Rothfuss compared nerd-products to sexually attractive women, Cline is comparing sexually attractive women to nerd-products.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are
I read the first couple of lines, rolled my eyes, and muttered to myself, "You wrote a poem because you're too lame to look up non-mainstream porn? Fuckwit."

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





I love how Cline manages to objectify women by trying not to objectify them. Good job!

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ernie, please posted:

All the porn I've come across

was targeted at beer-swilling sports bar dwelling alpha-males

hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
to all the porn i've loved, before~

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.
lmao he quoted a U2 song in there

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
What an idiot. Just type "glasses" into the search bar. Moron.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Leave it up to the nostalgia nerds to make it their identity about being "not like a typical guy"

Captain Hotbutt
Aug 18, 2014
https://twitter.com/PatrickRothfuss/status/1243657754285428742


https://twitter.com/brianmaragos/status/1243734953663303681

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE
I made a startling discovery:

https://twitter.com/paolini/status/1253068581270683649

Is it only me, or does Paolini look like a younger Rothfuss? What is it with authors of bad fantasy and this specific hobo-look?

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011



This one is accurate.

Malpais Legate
Oct 1, 2014

Torrannor posted:

I made a startling discovery:

https://twitter.com/paolini/status/1253068581270683649

Is it only me, or does Paolini look like a younger Rothfuss? What is it with authors of bad fantasy and this specific hobo-look?

A sliding scale of age using Paolini, Rothfart, and GURM for fantasy writers.

But what should we call it?

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Malpais Legate posted:

A sliding scale of age using Paolini, Rothfart, and GURM for fantasy writers.

But what should we call it?

There’s got to be.... maybe the Manderly scale? I’d say Martin is at a full 1.0 Manderlys.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Torrannor posted:

I made a startling discovery:

https://twitter.com/paolini/status/1253068581270683649

Is it only me, or does Paolini look like a younger Rothfuss? What is it with authors of bad fantasy and this specific hobo-look?

Paolini looks like he at least made a token effort to groom his hair. For now.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
I have never been more excited about a book than I am about Christopher Paolini's thousand-page SF epic To Sleep in a Sea of Stars.

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


what a time for avs to get re-permabanned, huh

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

They aren't complimenting you, Rothfuss. They're telling you to finish the loving book you lied about being done a decade ago.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
:lol: Remember when Rothfuss wrote several pages about how he Kvothe wouldn't do sex with a woman while he was high because that just ain't his bag. Truth serum actually makes him a better/cooler/more progressive dude.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Solice Kirsk posted:

:lol: Remember when Rothfuss wrote several pages about how he Kvothe wouldn't do sex with a woman while he was high because that just ain't his bag. Truth serum actually makes him a better/cooler/more progressive dude.

It was a drug that takes away your inhibitions and it was that he could never rape anyone ever so the drug didn't effect him because it was completely against his character.

Of course, then later on there's a long part where the mystery was if he was going to rape someone, because it was just the original short story dropped in without editting the parts that contradict the rest of the books.

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





In Tides of Numenera, which Rothfuss at least partially wrote, the main quest has you go back in time to unrape a woman. Later a mentor character asks if you considered the rapist's feelings.

This is glossing over the quest where if you help an incel stalk a woman the game, the game awards you actual compassion points.

Lastly, to end the quest for the companion Rothfuss is confirmed to have written, you and an adult companion need to submit to date rape by a creeper.

Rothfuss has a terrible track record of this poo poo is what I'm trying to say.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


I was contemplating the success of this book again and the reasons it’s prose gets praise and came across this bit about its most famous passage:

Is the end of a season typically measured in depth and width?
Are river-smooth stones heavier than rough ones?
Are cut flowers patient?

Does poetic license mean throwing out meaning so things can sound a certain way? Because on the face of it the three silences paragraph makes no sense.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Ccs posted:


Is the end of a season typically measured in depth and width?
Are river-smooth stones heavier than rough ones?
Are cut flowers patient?

It definitely shares an audience with those who adore Rupi Kaur but view themselves as more intellectual.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

In Tides of Numenera, which Rothfuss at least partially wrote, the main quest has you go back in time to unrape a woman. Later a mentor character asks if you considered the rapist's feelings.

This is glossing over the quest where if you help an incel stalk a woman the game, the game awards you actual compassion points.

Lastly, to end the quest for the companion Rothfuss is confirmed to have written, you and an adult companion need to submit to date rape by a creeper.

Rothfuss has a terrible track record of this poo poo is what I'm trying to say.

wait what wait what

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

In Tides of Numenera, which Rothfuss at least partially wrote, the main quest has you go back in time to unrape a woman. Later a mentor character asks if you considered the rapist's feelings.

This is glossing over the quest where if you help an incel stalk a woman the game, the game awards you actual compassion points.

Lastly, to end the quest for the companion Rothfuss is confirmed to have written, you and an adult companion need to submit to date rape by a creeper.

Rothfuss has a terrible track record of this poo poo is what I'm trying to say.

Sounds about right for a guy who considers Joss Whedon his hero.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


It’s also a bit funny how Abercrombie’s new book is coming out exactly one year after the previous. He did what Rothfuss claimed to have done, by finishing the first drafts of his new trilogy before release so they could cone out in a timely manner. I’m sure collectively his books have sold more than Rothfuss, but probably no single one has outsold Name of the Wind, which is a bit sad.

Tree Dude
May 26, 2012

AND MY SONG IS...
I have so much respect for Abercrombie and often point to him as a counter to the Rothfuss and Grrms of the scene.

Since 2006 the dude has finished a trilogy, wrote 3 standalone books in the same universe, wrote an unrelated trilogy then returned to the universe that made him famous for another trilogy that I have no reason to believe won't conclude next year.

And they're all pretty good at worst!

NotW came out in 2007 and we all know how that's going.

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.
I mean, it's obviously been said before, but Sanderson is right up there with Abercrombie too. It's hard to go "Oh, well, writing is tough and putting out a trilogy is hard. If it takes 13 years, that's ok" when Brandon Sanderson is putting out 300, 500, 1k page novels every year and short stories/novellas on top of it. It's obvious who takes writing as a career seriously and who doesn't.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

In Tides of Numenera, which Rothfuss at least partially wrote, the main quest has you go back in time to unrape a woman. Later a mentor character asks if you considered the rapist's feelings.

This is glossing over the quest where if you help an incel stalk a woman the game, the game awards you actual compassion points.

Lastly, to end the quest for the companion Rothfuss is confirmed to have written, you and an adult companion need to submit to date rape by a creeper.

Rothfuss has a terrible track record of this poo poo is what I'm trying to say.

like many fantasy and scifi writers Rothfuss has a rape fantasy fetish

He and Laurell K Hamilton should collab

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Doctor Faustine
Sep 2, 2018

HIJK posted:

like many fantasy and scifi writers Rothfuss has a rape fantasy fetish

He and Laurell K Hamilton should collab

they could at least have the decency to make it hot as well as gross, but alas both of them are lovely writers so it's just gross

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