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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Escobarbarian posted:

to be fair, fortnite is better than bloodborne

:hmmyes:

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il serpente cosmico
May 15, 2003

Best five bucks I've ever spend.

Woofer posted:

If TLOU2 takes too long will they also delay it to optimize it for the PS5? Or is this something they’re already doing?

I know they said the game is done and the delay is logistical but it would seem bad for sales if it came out too close to or after the PS5.

Releasing it alongside the PS5 as a cross-gen title doesn't seem like a terrible idea. It worked really well for Nintendo with Wind Waker, though the situation there was bit different, with the Wii U install base being what it was.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
For as fun of a game as it was this PS4 Spider-Man game has kind of a (vagueish sort of spoiler for the spoiler allergic) downer loving ending..

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

Escobarbarian posted:

to be fair, fortnite is better than bloodborne

new thread title?

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Escobarbarian posted:

to be fair, fortnite is better than bloodborne

Unironically agree.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

DrNutt posted:

For as fun of a game as it was this PS4 Spider-Man game has kind of a (vagueish sort of spoiler for the spoiler allergic) downer loving ending..

it is 100% because they needed stuff for Spider-Man 2, as I will be pissed if Norman never gets his loving comeuppance

Escobarbarian posted:

to be fair, fortnite is better than bloodborne

this is like saying Megadeth is better than Carly Rae Jepsen. like the two populations those games are aimed at have got to have an intersection of like 3 people.

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!
A lot of bannable opinions today

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Mr Hootington posted:

Unironically agree.

:yeah:

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

They open specific lobbies where everyone is in god mode

Just thinking how amazing it would be if somehow Travis Scott was a character model and it ended in an assassination of Lord British moment.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

morallyobjected posted:

it is 100% because they needed stuff for Spider-Man 2, as I will be pissed if Norman never gets his loving comeuppance

I mean yeah he's gotta be the Green Goblin eventually but I don't know why they felt the need to kill Aunt May. I think that could have worked if they twisted the mythos a bit and actually had Doc Ock redeem himself but they just played everything else pretty straight.

I will say even though it's an entirely different studio and genre of game, playing this did make me a little bit hype for Morvel's The Avengeguys coming in September.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

DrNutt posted:

I mean yeah he's gotta be the Green Goblin eventually but I don't know why they felt the need to kill Aunt May. I think that could have worked if they twisted the mythos a bit and actually had Doc Ock redeem himself but they just played everything else pretty straight.

I will say even though it's an entirely different studio and genre of game, playing this did make me a little bit hype for Morvel's The Avengeguys coming in September.

it's probably just so they can focus on him (and MJ) mentoring Miles or something next game.

that said I really hope they don't make Miles a focus of the next game. I play Spider-Man for Peter Parker cracking wise--not other Spider-MenBoys

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

morallyobjected posted:

it's probably just so they can focus on him (and MJ) mentoring Miles or something next game.

that said I really hope they don't make Miles a focus of the next game. I play Spider-Man for Peter Parker cracking wise--not other Spider-MenBoys

I for one hope there will be multiple playable spiderpeople, including Peter, Miles, and SpiderGwen. Although I felt it was pretty bullshit to tease spider powered MJ only to have her just be a delivery vector for Miles's spider.

E: god drat this might be the longest credits sequence I've ever seen

Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Apr 26, 2020

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

DrNutt posted:

The stuff these kids like is stupid, but the stuff I like is very very smart. *pours kool-aid into a decanter and takes puffs from a bubble pipe* Mmm yes

Not my point my man. I actually like Fortnite as a game, though only on my Switch so I can watch a movie while I play, and I hardly ever play it.

I don't really have an opinion on the social aspect of it because I don't engage with it

All I was saying is that it's annoying to see people unironically using "tons of young people like it so clearly if you don't you're just old".

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

that's true though

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Super No Vacancy posted:

that's true though

Yeah just like when I was 12 and everyone liked New Kids On the Block, who were definitely good

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

DrNutt posted:

I for one hope there will be multiple playable spiderpeople, including Peter, Miles, and SpiderGwen. Although I felt it was pretty bullshit to tease spider powered MJ only to have her just be a delivery vector for Miles's spider.

yeah, I was hopeful for so long.

I don't mind if there are other playable characters (case in point, I agree with you about your spoiler)--I just don't want Miles to suddenly become the main focus. they can make an Into the Spider-Verse game for that, if they haven't.

or just give me another Spider-Man beat 'em up, like Separation Anxiety

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Spider-Gwen: Revengeance

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

precision posted:

Not my point my man. I actually like Fortnite as a game, though only on my Switch so I can watch a movie while I play, and I hardly ever play it.

I don't really have an opinion on the social aspect of it because I don't engage with it

All I was saying is that it's annoying to see people unironically using "tons of young people like it so clearly if you don't you're just old".

Yeah but it's kind of like being a high school edgelord who listens to nothing but death metal and making fun of your middle school sister for liking a boy band. Like okay, wow they like something clearly aimed at their demographic and not yours, got em?

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

DrNutt posted:

For as fun of a game as it was this PS4 Spider-Man game has kind of a (vagueish sort of spoiler for the spoiler allergic) downer loving ending..

Lobok posted:

So for the big, big endgame spoiler, why do people think that Insomniac killed off May? There are several reasons I can think of:

-they wanted a big emotional story beat for the players and the death of a beloved character accomplishes that nicely
-killing someone Peter knew to sell the danger of Devil's Breath / give it impact
-it solidifies Dr. Octopus as the enemy in case you were getting sympathetic towards him
-they don't know what to do with the character / narratively she doesn't tend to push stories forward
-trimming the cast size ahead of the sequel(s)
-passing the torch, so to speak, so that instead of May looking out for Peter, Peter will now be looking out for Miles

But what I think REALLY happened is that

-the voice actress was a huge rear end in a top hat so they killed May to spite her



I'll add as well that a classic mantra for writing Spider-Man is that if things work out for him then they won't work out for Peter Parker (and vice versa). The game was a huge heroic victory for Spider-Man, taking down the entire Sinister Six and stopping a deadly pandemic. May is the sacrifice on the Peter Parker side of things.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Lobok posted:

I'll add as well that a classic mantra for writing Spider-Man is that if things work out for him then they won't work out for Peter Parker (and vice versa). The game was a huge heroic victory for Spider-Man, taking down the entire Sinister Six and stopping a deadly pandemic. May is the sacrifice on the Peter Parker side of things.

Is that last one actually true or was it just a joke you made? I'd love to hear more about that particular drama if true.

Also holy gently caress these credits are putting the rear end Creed Odyssey credits to shame.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Spider-Gwen: Revengeance

:hmmyes:


loving wild how good Revengeance looks and plays on PS3, Platinum are GENIUSES

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

DrNutt posted:

Is that last one actually true or was it just a joke you made? I'd love to hear more about that particular drama if true.

Just a joke. I love the idea of her being a real piece of poo poo.

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

Holy poo poo finally finished persona 5.

precision
May 7, 2006

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DrNutt posted:

Yeah but it's kind of like being a high school edgelord who listens to nothing but death metal and making fun of your middle school sister for liking a boy band. Like okay, wow they like something clearly aimed at their demographic and not yours, got em?

I mean I basically agree except that I do think sometimes things become popular even when they're bad at what they're trying to do.

Fortnite specifically is... competent. A lot of the design is just awful; there's almost zero onboarding and the lobby/menus are just clusterfucks, but the game is solid enough.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




I like the upbeat cartoony style. Much nicer than milporn realism.

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!

dads friend steve posted:

Holy poo poo finally finished persona 5.

How'd you like it?

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

BisterdDave posted:

How'd you like it?

It was my first entry to the series and I really really liked it. A perfect combo of chill, good storytelling, and a fun combat system for being stuck in quarantine. I spent over 100 hours and I’m sad it’s over

I’m switching over to Control because it’s on PS Now for the next few months, and the difference is giving me whiplash

Maybe in a couple months I’ll pick up Royal

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

I will take any and all “if you liked persona check out X” recommendations

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

dads friend steve posted:

I will take any and all “if you liked persona check out X” recommendations

If you like JRPGs the trails games are great Cold Steel is even on the PS4.

It’s even like persona in that it’s in a school

A military academy but still

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

dads friend steve posted:

I will take any and all “if you liked persona check out X” recommendations

If you haven't yet played Dragon Quest 11 I'd highly recommend that.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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dads friend steve posted:

I’m switching over to Control because it’s on PS Now for the next few months, and the difference is giving me whiplash


lol I wonder if streaming Control through PS Now would have given me better performance than playing it local with my launch unit

Every time I made an explosion happen the frame rate would tank, if there were more than three explosions on screen at once it literally froze to 0fps for half a second

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

Looks like there's some heavy TLOU2 leaks out in the wild, someone has access to a near-final build from March 2nd and there's videos recorded from it floating about. VERY spoilery stuff.

dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

CharlestheHammer posted:

If you like JRPGs the trails games are great Cold Steel is even on the PS4.

It’s even like persona in that it’s in a school

A military academy but still

DrNutt posted:

If you haven't yet played Dragon Quest 11 I'd highly recommend that.

Thank you friends

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

lol I wonder if streaming Control through PS Now would have given me better performance than playing it local with my launch unit

Every time I made an explosion happen the frame rate would tank, if there were more than three explosions on screen at once it literally froze to 0fps for half a second

Very possible. I went the download route though since I don’t trust my lovely ISP

precision
May 7, 2006

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dads friend steve posted:

I will take any and all “if you liked persona check out X” recommendations

Have you played any Tales games? Vesperia is a good one if you like a good cast that interacts well

BisterdDave
Apr 21, 2004

Slitzweitz!
Persona 4 Golden
Tales of Hearts R
Ys Memories of Celceta
Trails of Cold Steel

This was essentially my playing order of jrps after getting thoroughly hooked on P4G, and I would highly recommend of these. The Vita was (and still is) amazing!

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari
supposedly the entire tlou2 plot got spoiled, something went very wrong with the development of that game

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Zeta Acosta posted:

supposedly the entire tlou2 plot got spoiled, something went very wrong with the development of that game

Because someone angrily leaked it or because it's poo poo?

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

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Zeta Acosta posted:

supposedly the entire tlou2 plot got spoiled, something went very wrong with the development of that game

They went into hyper-crunch mode to the point that Schreier could write another article about it, then sent everyone to work from home for an extended period of time with no release date in sight.

This was to be expected

Zeta Acosta
Dec 16, 2019

#essereFerrari

JBP posted:

Because someone angrily leaked it or because it's poo poo?

I mean someone really is leaking stuff but i dont think the game will be bad per se. Naughty dog games arent know for their gameplay elements

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Unless the game was actually unfinished and they were fudging what they said about it being done, I think the indefinite delay is going to pan out to be a really poor decision for them. I'm sure I'll play it and enjoy it regardless but they just keep killing the momentum more and more and now if the plot is being spoiled it's going to be almost impossible to avoid for months and months. They just should have released the loving game. Feels like they just used the pandemic as an excuse to push it back to launch with the PS5 tbh.

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