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il serpente cosmico posted:I wonder if Sony is still going to give out automatic rebates for TLOU2 preorders? Yeah I still haven't gotten a refund for it so I guess I still have a pre-order.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Not their fault; he had to go be a Hobbit, so Cutter needed to be written out halfway.
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Guillermus posted:Hello PS4 thread, I'm here to do some positive posting. My wife and I have been passing the controller back and forth on this one for a couple of hours a week for months now. Great fun. Moonbrooke sucked though and we were never so happy as when we finished that drat island.
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exquisite tea posted:Saying "well uh no game stories are good, I'm having fun / it's better with friends so there" whenever people start criticizing a thing is an act of intellectual cowardice. STAND YOUR GROUND If the arguments presented were a little more compelling than just “UGH THESE GAME STORIES ARE SO BAD, TRY READING A BOOK FOR ONCE YOU CHILDREN *reads the Wheel of Time series for the eighth time*” it’d be more of a fun subject to get into tbh
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Apr 27, 2020 19:39
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I tend to prefer games to books because I’m actively engaging with the proceedings. I feel more invested in what’s going on, and dare I say, immersed. If that makes me a child, then okay. All forms of storytelling and entertainment are valid imo. Whether you’re watching a movie or letting your mind transport you somewhere by reading words.
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man nurse posted:All forms of storytelling and entertainment are valid imo. Whether you’re watching a movie or letting your mind transport you somewhere by reading words. Absolutely 100% agree with this 
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Dewgy posted:If the arguments presented were a little more compelling than just “UGH THESE GAME STORIES ARE SO BAD, TRY READING A BOOK FOR ONCE YOU CHILDREN *reads the Wheel of Time series for the eighth time*” it’d be more of a fun subject to get into tbh Precisely! The plot of the video game doesn’t have to be a literary masterpiece to be well written, engaging, or emotionally resonant and good games are all three of those things like the Witcher 3 or the last of us
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Having looked at the full story spoilers wow. If they are true, this is going to be a bad game and I feel like it really cheapens the end of the first one. I'm actually really glad that I read the spoilers because if I played this game blind I would be beyond angry. Now I'm not gonna be in a rush to play it. If I hear it's good in context maybe I get it later. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 27, 2020 |
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Dewgy posted:If the arguments presented were a little more compelling than just “UGH THESE GAME STORIES ARE SO BAD, TRY READING A BOOK FOR ONCE YOU CHILDREN *reads the Wheel of Time series for the eighth time*” it’d be more of a fun subject to get into tbh One of the amazing things about the human experience is that we have the capacity to become emotionally invested in any form of representative media. This is great because it means that you don't need to have studied the last 500 years of English literature to appreciate the twists and turns of a professional wrestling storyline -- with a compelling narrative and relatable characters you can achieve greatness no matter how high or low the artform. It's one undeniably awesome thing about being human, not some weakness of the mind.
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The way I look at story lines and media is if it affected you in a positive way then it was good and was something that called to your spirit. Classics and GOATs are classified that way because of their likelihood to affect more people than average, but that does not mean that things not raised on pedestals cannot have the same (or even more) emotional or intellectual punches. I love a lot of media and not all of it is considered a classic. Some of it not even 'good' but they stirred something within me and connected to the way I view and value the world. That gives them worth.
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Nail Rat posted:Having looked at the full story spoilers wow. Yeah, reading those makes it sound like there's no point to playing the game. I feels to me the same as Under the Sea did for Bioshock Infinite where it's just a big "gently caress you" to people who enjoyed the first one.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:56
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Nail Rat posted:Having looked at the full story spoilers wow. Can we not talk about spoilers in the general chat? Like one way or the other. It both shows people here have bad impulse control, reeks of entitlement, and is generally gross.
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Apr 27, 2020 19:57
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Infinitum posted:Talking about the leak, and the circumstances surrounding it = fine
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Apr 27, 2020 19:58
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Yeah sorry I'll do the thing that was said to be okay to do. I'm not going to say it repeatedly or anything but I was just stating, that's my reaction as someone who did read them.
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Talking about the leak =/= discussing the content of the spoilers. The mods opened a specific thread for discussing those. No fewer than 5 regular posters have specifically asked that all discussion of the content of the spoilers be moved to that thread, and VG and Infinitum both agreed. Please respect, my friend. Because like 20 posts of “I won’t TELL YOU what I read but OH GOD ITS AWFUL ITS THE WORST GAME EVER ALREADY” sucks out loud.
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Nail Rat posted:Yeah sorry I'll do the thing that was said to be okay to do. I'm not going to say it repeatedly or anything but I was just stating, that's my reaction as someone who did read them. Ok. Posting about how bad you think the game will be still spoils the game. Hope this helps.
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VideoGames posted:The way I look at story lines and media is if it affected you in a positive way then it was good and was something that called to your spirit.  I think my big thing is “volume of critical analysis” tends to get conflated with “good” a bit too often. Hemingway was a hugely influental writer whose work is full of symbolism and have decades of literary analysis written about them, but frankly in my eyes his books are pigshit awful dreck made solely to boost his own ego. Shakespeare used iambic and rhymes because his actors were idiots who forgot their lines. (Worked out way better for him than Hemingway though, he was actually a good writer to boot.) There’s an enormous amount of things to talk about when it comes to any medium, and video games have their own strengths and weaknesses like any other. Boiling that down to just “bad” though just strikes me as a means to prop up whatever you’ve convinced yourself is the platonic ideal way of telling a story.
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Woofer posted:Posting about how bad you think the game will be still spoils the game. Hope this helps. There are a lot of people who have been saying that since it was announced though!
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For what it’s worth, I don’t think the story sounds very good from the leaks but a lot of good stories written out so basically probably sound the same. Thematically it definitely seems like it’s covering extremely well-worn ground, but that doesn’t mean the execution couldn’t be good.
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Dewgy posted:
iambic pentameter is lovely
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Nail Rat posted:There are a lot of people who have been saying that since it was announced though! I know. That doesn’t mean you aren’t lovely. It just means they are lovely too. Incredible.
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Apr 27, 2020 20:05
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YOOOO. Even if you are just talking about how much you didn't like the spoilers there is thread for that now. Talk about it there.
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Apr 27, 2020 20:06
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Saying something is bad is not a spoiler don’t be an idiot. I know people have got extremely sensitive but that’s like beyond parody
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Apr 27, 2020 20:07
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once again:Infinitum posted:Talking about the leak, and the circumstances surrounding it = fine
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Apr 27, 2020 20:08
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CharlestheHammer posted:Saying something is bad is not a spoiler don’t be an idiot. I know people have got extremely sensitive but that’s like beyond parody If people want to go in blind to something, telling them it is bad is definitely a spoiler.
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Apr 27, 2020 20:09
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Woofer posted:If people want to go in blind to something, telling them it is bad is definitely a spoiler. What?
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Woofer posted:If people want to go in blind to something, telling them it is bad is definitely a spoiler. You've been here long enough to know that nobody has to wait to call something bad!
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OK please can we simmer down. I do not think we need to litigate over someone saying something is bad. It is fine. All we know is that person does not like something. Now that we have all briefly gone over what is OK to post here (coupled with the fact that I am here reading) please trust in me to pipe up or pipe down if something should not be posted. You are all wonderful Dewgy posted:
I genuinely think 'bad' or good' are just catch all words because sometimes people cannot articulate why they did/did not like something. I say I love things a lot and genuinely do, and often it is really tough to clarify that. It can be a strain. With enough time I can formulate words and phrases and sentences but on something quickfire like posting back and forth then sometimes the mind cannot quite unjumble
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Woofer posted:If people want to go in blind to something, telling them it is bad is definitely a spoiler. They may not even agree it’s so silly. It’s like if the week of FF7 people complain Ed because people were talking about how good it was because what if they didn’t know it was good?
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Apr 27, 2020 20:12
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E: Video Games is here to put the wrong things right
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Apr 27, 2020 20:12
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Only leaks worth discussing are the cooperative whizzes Death Stranding players can do on the same spot to sprout a mushroom that will eventually host health-boosting little cryptobiotes. Players around the world uniting in urination.
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Theres nothing bad about enjoying video games stories or whatever or becoming emotionally invested in video game characters (in moderation obvs) but speaking personally, what I can get out of reading a good book is something so completely different and removed from what any video game has been able to do that I will always be suspicious of anyone who claims video game stories are just as good as literature The only game that even comes close to this is The Last Guardian and even then it's still just a well crafted narrative
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Apr 27, 2020 20:18
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death stranding was on sale so i bought it, did i make a mistake
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Apr 27, 2020 20:18
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nah it owns
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wyoak posted:death stranding was on sale so i bought it, did i make a mistake that would be a spoiler
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exquisite tea posted:You've been here long enough to know that nobody has to wait to call something bad! Correct. The forums in general love to poo poo on media that are insanely well crafted but have flaws, including tv shows, movies, video games or music. Same as a lot of twitter really. These are usually the same people that couldn’t create any art close to the level of stuff they say sucks if their lives depended on it. Much easier to complain than to create.
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wyoak posted:death stranding was on sale so i bought it, did i make a mistake I trough it was a great game, but I have seen different reactions from different people all abroad the spectrum. We should be thankfull of the guys that mantain the networks alive and well for us to download games 
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