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fun fact: the woman who played quark's Cardassian lady (Natima Lang) was Mary Crosby--daughter of Bing Crosby. e: she was also on some silly old tv show nobody ever watched called Dallas Pick fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No, Disco makes a few earnest efforts to make some Trek plots here and there despite being pretty bad on the whole (eg; the time-loop episode and the Tardigrade). All Voyager ever really does is retread Next Gen with a different cast. the tardigrade wasn't a trek plot because it was blatantly plagiarized from an unreleased indie game, cleverly named "tardigrades".
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Apr 28, 2020 10:46
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The tardigrade didn’t feel like a Star Trek plot idea to me. In Star Trek, if the question is “do we torture a creature to benefit ourselves,” that’s barely even a debate. It’s wrong to torture. It would take half an episode to cover. This dragged on for like 3 episodes with everyone acting like bastards.
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Apr 28, 2020 10:59
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Pick posted:I'm imagining this in the style of "Get me Hennimore!" This but Quark and Garak. I'd but that beer label as a poster/shirt.
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Apr 28, 2020 11:17
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:The tardigrade didn’t feel like a Star Trek plot idea to me. In Star Trek, if the question is “do we torture a creature to benefit ourselves,” that’s barely even a debate. It’s wrong to torture. It would take half an episode to cover. This dragged on for like 3 episodes with everyone acting like bastards. My favourite thing about this is that one of Voyager's best two parters handles the whole "is it wrong to torture space creatures to make our engines do cool poo poo" concept far more entertainingly. Even Voyager, the too-safe and boring retread micromanaged by Rick Berman and meant by Paramount to prop up their toy TV network, managed to handle this idea better than the super-serious modern prestige drama which also exists for similar reasons. There's still undoubtedly more quality hours of Star Trek from Voyager than the new series' just due to the volume of the material and the episodic nature of the old shows. Granted, Ron Moore bailed not long after working on those episodes because Voyager's writer's room was so goddamn toxic and disinterested so it's not like they're a great window into what the rest of the series was like. Both shows were made to compel people to buy some other product or service the parent company offered, just separated by time. If Voyager had been made today I don't doubt that they'd have actually straight up abandoned the premise in the text of the show and brought them back to the alpha quadrant so they could team up with the Enterprise or something. gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the tardigrade wasn't a trek plot because it was blatantly plagiarized from an unreleased indie game, cleverly named "tardigrades". At least when they ripped that off they picked something nobody had ever heard of instead of a well known and popular video game space opera series that many fans of Star Trek would likely be aware of
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Apr 28, 2020 11:27
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The only episode of Disco that seemed like Trek to me is New Eden, S2 Ep 2. You could put it almost unchanged into any previous series and no one would at an eye. Not saying it’d be held up as a classic, but it’s recognisable as Trek.
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Apr 28, 2020 11:46
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I might complain some about voyager being generic but it is definitely very Trek compared to the dumpster fire garbage of DISC/Picard Like, Voyager is sometimes boring, sometimes hackneyed, sometimes bad, but it’s still go a fundamental Trek ambiance and tone and stuff. Disco just sucks and is awful
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Apr 28, 2020 12:11
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I really think it starts with enterprise at the latest. There's a pretty good argument for the TNG movies.
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Apr 28, 2020 15:35
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PenisMonkey posted:Quark is pretty good. I’d watch a show centered around him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sUYcJ5lOBI
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Apr 28, 2020 15:39
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the tardigrade wasn't a trek plot because it was blatantly plagiarized from an unreleased indie game, cleverly named "tardigrades". clonus -> the island tardigrades -> disco mass effect 3 -> picard alex kurtzmann really has a strong continuity of works being oddly _similar_ to other prior works.
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Apr 28, 2020 16:37
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Epicurius posted:Ah, fan of Quark? This is amazing, it's the most perfectly 1970s thing I've ever seen.
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Apr 28, 2020 17:01
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Pick posted:I really think it starts with enterprise at the latest. There's a pretty good argument for the TNG movies. The last time I watched Undiscovered Country I decided it was already after the high water mark for the franchise
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Apr 28, 2020 17:34
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:The last time I watched Undiscovered Country I decided it was already after the high water mark for the franchise *smack!* *smack smack smack!*
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Apr 28, 2020 17:36
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piratepilates posted:clonus -> the island Close; Picard rips off the first Mass Effect game verbatim, and given the way it ends I'd put money on lining up Mass Effect 2 for the second season.
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Apr 28, 2020 18:29
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:The last time I watched Undiscovered Country I decided it was already after the high water mark for the franchise It's downhill from the moment the Stealing the Enterprise sequence in III ends
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Apr 28, 2020 18:31
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Western Civilization peaked in 1996
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Apr 28, 2020 20:43
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Tighclops posted:Western Civilization peaked in 1996 You mean when ska music was popular and we had to pay an hourly rate to play battletech, air warrior, and gemstone on AOL?
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Apr 28, 2020 20:51
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I loving know what I typed
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Apr 28, 2020 20:57
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This is now the ska appreciation thread.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:04
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I could see Harry Kim as the Maracas guy in a ska band
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Apr 28, 2020 21:06
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piratepilates posted:clonus -> the island Clonus at least had the decency to involve Peter Graves and make for good MST3K fodder.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:08
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Tom Paris would listen to ska. Neelix would probably get into it too.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:10
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Yeah, but Tom Paris has good taste. Dude likes Captain Proton, and that gave us Bride of Chaotica!
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Apr 28, 2020 21:13
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Tighclops posted:Western Civilization peaked in 1996 1999 according to The Matrix.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:13
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The entire bridge crew is into ska as deeply as they are into sumo.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:15
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Mulaney Power Move posted:You mean when ska music was popular and we had to pay an hourly rate to play battletech, air warrior, and gemstone on AOL? It's 1996, silly, you don't play Battletech on a home computer! You go to the Battletech center at the mall.  e: Vulture V3 was my favorite.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:18
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shadow puppet of a posted:The entire bridge crew is into ska as deeply as they are into sumo. you know what they call ska in the future? classical music.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:20
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Picard politely skanks to the cello arrangement of "Kicking Pigeons in the Park"
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Apr 28, 2020 21:21
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Data asking Dr. Crusher to teach him how to dance and they start skanking to the Bosstones.
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Apr 28, 2020 21:43
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what is it and how do I get more of that also generic space music is...generic
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Apr 28, 2020 22:27
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I can see Riker creating a Ska band on the holodeck
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Apr 28, 2020 23:17
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piratepilates posted:clonus -> the island i am not familiar with either of these
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Apr 29, 2020 00:46
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Parts: The Clonus Horror was a late 70s B-movie that actually wasn't bad despite their limitations, and made for a good MST3k episode. Coincidentally, The Island, screenplay by Alex Kurtzman, is the exact same movie.
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Apr 29, 2020 00:52
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i am not familiar with either of these Clonus (I think the full title is Parts: The Clonus Horror) is a no-budget sci-fi movie from the late '70s. It was pretty awful, and gained notoriety when it was on MST3K. Orci and Kurtzman lifted a lot of it loving wholesale for The Island, which they wrote for Michael Bay (it was a pretty forgettable movie starring, I think, Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson). The people who produced Clonus sued the poo poo out of Dreamworks, who finally settled out of court for what was reported to be a very handsome sum.
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Apr 29, 2020 00:53
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The most memorable thing about The Island is the highway escape scene where a giant alien robot falls on a car out of nowhere.
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Apr 29, 2020 01:34
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Bogus Adventure posted:I can see Riker creating a Ska band on the holodeck Riker's cool! He would do cool things. I support him.
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Apr 29, 2020 02:48
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Headlines from The Onion, looks like?
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Apr 29, 2020 04:00
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Headlines from The Onion, looks like? (yes)
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I just wanna let you all know how much I fuckin' hate Tom Paris. A lot. I hate him a lot.
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