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DrDork posted:It's not. With very few exceptions, any card you buy today will run just fine with the stock cooler. However, that doesn't mean that it'll run quietly, which is what most of these replacements are really chasing. Even in a well ventilated case, an iffy cooler can make quite a racket. That was the prime drive for me to go to a AIO loop on my 1080Ti, and I couldn't be happier; the lower temps are just a benefit, since they haven't really let me bump the OC up enough to make any real difference in actual performance. Even then, I feel like undervolting plus a less aggressive fan curve gets you most of the way there unless it's something like the 1080ti Armor where the cooler is made for 2/3 the TDP at most.
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I certainly won't argue against sound, but I have to say the last, I dunno, 6 years of GPUs have generally been really quiet. Maybe I just am lucky (or more likely I have more money now so I don't mind spending a bit more) but it's not like the 8800GT days when the fans would shake your full tower case.
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Apr 27, 2020 15:37
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Different people are going to have very different tolerance for noise and very different ideas of what "quiet" is.
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Apr 27, 2020 15:43
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Arzachel posted:Even then, I feel like undervolting plus a less aggressive fan curve gets you most of the way there unless it's something like the 1080ti Armor where the cooler is made for 2/3 the TDP at most. Yeah, there are different approaches you can take to address the issue. Undervolting and such can work well, but you often lose some performance for it. For me, I spent a total of I think $75 for the G10+AIO and I've used it on three cards now, which has allowed me to both enjoy near silent running (I know some people get pump noise, but mine never has) at close to top-tier clocks while using lower-tier cards. So it's paid for itself and then some. I know others here have done similar things with the air-coolers and transplanted them across a few cards. It all depends on what exactly you're trying to get out of your solution. But, yeah, gently caress those 1080Ti Armor coolers. What trash.
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Apr 27, 2020 15:47
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Lockback posted:I certainly won't argue against sound, but I have to say the last, I dunno, 6 years of GPUs have generally been really quiet. Maybe I just am lucky (or more likely I have more money now so I don't mind spending a bit more) but it's not like the 8800GT days when the fans would shake your full tower case. Yeah they've been getting gradually quieter to the point where this 2 fan 2.75 slot EVGA 2070S is really barely audible under any circumstance. I have it overclocked but not overvolted (since Turing doesn't seem to give a poo poo about volts).
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Apr 27, 2020 16:02
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My MSI 2060S Armor is almost inaudible at 65% fan speed besides Phanteks 120mm case fans at 700rpm, but it turns into a jet engine at 70% without any appreciable decrease in GPU core temp. So I had to run a custom fan curve which tops up at 65% in Afterburner.
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Apr 27, 2020 17:15
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:Didn't Linus put a D15 on a GPU in a recent-ish vid and got amazing thermals? I swear I've seen that. Looks like it was an Assassin III. A couple years back DIY Perks did it with a Noctua and also got bonkers results. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6hvsqUEtZ4
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Apr 27, 2020 17:47
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I suppose current GPU's benefit well from good cooling. Cooler sits directly on die like in Athlon XP days, but the gpu dies are many times larger. All the heat is divided to a larger area so it is easier to cool.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:07
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I'd like to see a GPU made with a massive tower cooler. Make a cooling solution that is deliberately designed to reach the bottom of an ATX case and rest against it. Turn all those slots at the back into an exhaust.
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Apr 27, 2020 18:43
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Ihmemies posted:There's this at least from Linus. Man, those poor toasty vrms, that can't be good
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Apr 27, 2020 19:01
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My RX 580 gets very loud when gaming. Would undervolting be a way to lower noise and if so, how would I go about doing that?
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Apr 28, 2020 08:24
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Incessant Excess posted:My RX 580 gets very loud when gaming. Would undervolting be a way to lower noise and if so, how would I go about doing that? What model is it? Undervolting helps a lot but you also need to reign in the max power limit. It's 185W normally and cheap/badly constructed models can't cope with that silently. I found -25% to -30% power limit made the pain go away on mine.
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It's a Sapphire Pulse: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y2DzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-8gb-pulse-video-card-11265-05 What software did you use to do this? Can it be done through the AMD driver software?
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Incessant Excess posted:It's a Sapphire Pulse: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y2DzK8/sapphire-radeon-rx-580-8gb-pulse-video-card-11265-05 Yep AMD Radeon Software: Performance -> Tuning. You can also lower the voltage -50mv or so without much issue. Undervolting sometimes nets higher clocks while using less/the same power 
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My computer shut off last night, hit the power button, nothing happens. I pulled out my 980ti and it boots right up, plug in back in, won't power on, no beeps, no fans, but the motherboard has power definitely because the high power gaming LEDs are still going strong. Is there any way to tell if this is a molex 8-pin issue vs card issue? I suspect the card because it's had really bad PCB slouch due to the weight of the heatsinks, but I don't have a great way to test what with the virus situation. I can afford the new card and power supply if it comes down to it, but I'm wondering if I can shove my multimeter probes into the molex or something to see if its dead.
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Apr 28, 2020 16:46
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Does anyone know if Nvidia RT cores are any good for offline (not real-time) GPU raytracing like for visual effects/animation rendering? Seems like the current crop of raytracing renderers are using CUDA so I’m not sure if the optimizations in the newer RT cores really helps in this application.
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Apr 28, 2020 17:55
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Shaocaholica posted:Does anyone know if Nvidia RT cores are any good for offline (not real-time) GPU raytracing like for visual effects/animation rendering? Seems like the current crop of raytracing renderers are using CUDA so I’m not sure if the optimizations in the newer RT cores really helps in this application. https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2019/11/21/creative-apps-rtx/
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Apr 28, 2020 18:15
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Shaocaholica posted:Does anyone know if Nvidia RT cores are any good for offline (not real-time) GPU raytracing like for visual effects/animation rendering? Seems like the current crop of raytracing renderers are using CUDA so I’m not sure if the optimizations in the newer RT cores really helps in this application. Blender 2.82 has optix for cycles path tracing as an option. And it is pretty good, though it takes time at the beginning of the render to set up the render kernal. Not all features are supported yet but I have not noticed it. Way faster than cuda rendering was.
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I don't think there's any production-ready renderers with RTX backends yet but the early results look very promising https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=blender-281-optix&num=1 Octane has also shown massive performance gains but again, still in preview AFAIK https://render.otoy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=70705&p=357272 repiv fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 28, 2020 |
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Salt Fish posted:My computer shut off last night, hit the power button, nothing happens. I pulled out my 980ti and it boots right up, plug in back in, won't power on, no beeps, no fans, but the motherboard has power definitely because the high power gaming LEDs are still going strong. What PSU are you using? I would strongly suspect the GPU is dead given what you've described. One cheap test would be to change around what power connectors you have plugged in. I have once seen an adapter not boot a card but that's rare. I think its the card dying since you it sounds like you didn't really do anything before it died.
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repiv posted:I don't think there's any production-ready renderers with RTX backends yet but the early results look very promising Interesting. Maybe Nvidia will ship RTX only dies just for this kind of stuff. What’s the breakdown of die real estate currently for consumer GPUs for RT cores vs all other cores?
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Apr 28, 2020 19:18
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IIRC RT cores are something like just under 10% of die space on Turing. However, even an RT-dedicated product would need at least some of the other hardware there. The RT cores just accelerate certain operations and you need other functionality for the entire process. IDK what the ultimate impact will be on the offline rendering industry, but my expectation is that it will be pretty large. Any time a broad commercial technology can be repurposed for a niche industry, the benefits tend to be huge.
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Sure you need additional die for the logic controller, etc. A big rear end RT targeted quadro/Tesla would be pretty neat. Especially in some goofy 4 card arrangement or just PCIe over network and have 1000s of cores available dynamically.
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Apr 28, 2020 19:33
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Salt Fish posted:My computer shut off last night, hit the power button, nothing happens. I pulled out my 980ti and it boots right up, plug in back in, won't power on, no beeps, no fans, but the motherboard has power definitely because the high power gaming LEDs are still going strong. I assume you don't have another GPU to test with? If you have an older card that uses the same power connection then that would give you a pretty good test.
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Shaocaholica posted:Does anyone know if Nvidia RT cores are any good for offline (not real-time) GPU raytracing like for visual effects/animation rendering? Seems like the current crop of raytracing renderers are using CUDA so I’m not sure if the optimizations in the newer RT cores really helps in this application. This series was a nice overview on RT in general. This episode goes into what the RT cores do better than CUDA with respect to RT. Not super in depth. The whole series is worth a watch if you're interested in RT in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoQfX1q-VNE
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Salt Fish posted:really bad PCB slouch
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I have a non-ti 980 and some of the output ports stopped working. I used to use 2 hdmi and now I have to use 1 displayport and 1 hdmi. it has 2 displayports and 2 hdmi ports. Is this normal for an old GPU? It's probably from 2015/2016 or so.
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redreader posted:I have a non-ti 980 and some of the output ports stopped working. I used to use 2 hdmi and now I have to use 1 displayport and 1 hdmi. it has 2 displayports and 2 hdmi ports. Is this normal for an old GPU? It's probably from 2015/2016 or so. Any visible damage to the ports? Have you swapped out cables to check that it’s not something with those? If you put light tension on the port in any direction with the cable attached does it suddenly work?
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Going to the previous page talk about watercooling GPU's, I just put a G12 bracket on a 1080ti Gigabyte Gaming OC card, prior to the swap I was netting around 90c under load and running 1300 odd clock speed at 99% usage. Pretty horrid but even moreso considering the unbearable noise those fans made. Taking off the cooler showed off some dry thermal compound and a very anemic cooler, it's no wonder this thing wanted to kill itself. Now under sustained usage in RDR2 with a H75 cooler and 2xNoctua fans, my machine is finally quiet and I'm maxing out at around 53c after an hour or so. Clocks are around 1865-1915 without any tinkering. I wish I had done this sooner, JFC.
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snickothemule posted:Going to the previous page talk about watercooling GPU's, I just put a G12 bracket on a 1080ti Gigabyte Gaming OC card, prior to the swap I was netting around 90c under load and running 1300 odd clock speed at 99% usage. Pretty horrid but even moreso considering the unbearable noise those fans made. Taking off the cooler showed off some dry thermal compound and a very anemic cooler, it's no wonder this thing wanted to kill itself. That's a great improvement but it should be noted that you had a failed cooling solution before you replaced it, it wasn't working correctly.
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Is repasting my blower 2070S worth it? Looking at aftermarket cooling selections. It came in a prebuilt and I have no problems with thermals, yet, but I’d like to head it off at the pass if possible. Also looking into replacing fans if that’s a thing.
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Sometimes it can help a lot, sometimes not. There was even a manufacturer that I think forgot to add thermal pads to their GPUs or something crazy within the last two years. Googling your specific model will probably reveal if anyone's had similar issues. Reddit is a decent sample size.
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If the card isn't showing any thermal abnormalities repasting probably won't do much. Repasting is more of a fix for something that is done poorly or not enough. The advice to check if your card has a problem first by looking what other people said it's a good idea, but otherwise I probably wouldn't worry about it
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Some things worth considering : GPUs tend to use a lot more power than CPUs (which is the thing that "wears out" thermal paste). GPUs tend to power cycle up and down a lot more than CPUs CPUs are much more likely to have high quality user-installed paste than GPUs CPUs are likely to have much better designed custom coolers than GPUs Repasting CPUs that aren't performing badly is a complete waste of time, but I wouldn't be so certain with GPUs. On the other hand, repasting a GPU can lead to problems with the thermal pads on VRMs and memory, so you have to take all that into account.
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ufarn posted:Sometimes it can help a lot, sometimes not. There was even a manufacturer that I think forgot to add thermal pads to their GPUs or something crazy within the last two years. Those were the Alienware 2080ti's, I saw that video Lockback posted:If the card isn't showing any thermal abnormalities repasting probably won't do much. Repasting is more of a fix for something that is done poorly or not enough. The advice to check if your card has a problem first by looking what other people said it's a good idea, but otherwise I probably wouldn't worry about it Good to know, I'll keep an eye on it but I'm pretty sure it'll be fine. I was mostly just looking for a new project to have.
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IMO you're very likely to gently caress up the thermal pads on the cooler by taking it off. I wouldn't get into there unless you were fixing a known problem and had replacement pads available.
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I won't fix what ain't broke. Thanks for your input everyone. E:Now, the two 7800 GTX's I have coming, repasting them, they're like 15 years old. And were also like 40 bucks total.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I won't fix what ain't broke. Thanks for your input everyone. Just buy some generic thermal pads online before you open them up so the VRM etc can make contact the way it was supposed to.
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VelociBacon posted:Just buy some generic thermal pads online before you open them up so the VRM etc can make contact the way it was supposed to. Will do. They're from the capacitor rot days too so everything is going to get a close inspection. E:Plague, not rot. Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 29, 2020 |
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K8.0 posted:GPUs tend to power cycle up and down a lot more than CPUs The others make sense, but is that one really true?
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