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McSpanky posted:Quark straight-up calls gold worthless at one point, which is really funny because in TNG eps before DS9 we see Ferengi negotiating with gold. It's not even inconsistent, I like to think they're just trying to hoodwink backwards locals with shiny metal that they can get out of the replicator by the pound. That was a faction of Ferengi buttcoiners.
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Cthulu Carl posted:That was a faction of Ferengi buttcoiners. They should have had the Ferengi work on that Borg cube in Picard instead of the Romulans. Using the Hivemind at breaking point to farm Naguscoins.
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Apr 30, 2020 22:55
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The General posted:But it also has Combs and Hertzler. Lmao, I forgot he was in the episode. I haven't been able to bring myself to go back and watch Voyager. I saw it once. That was enough.
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Apr 30, 2020 23:02
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continuing my VOY rewatch and I think the terrible memorableness of Tuvix and it's sheer stupidity overshadows the episode that comes before it, "The Thaw". the whole premise, three alien caretakers trapped in a simulation with a bunch of giddy clown-like manifestations of fear isn't inherently that creative as a trek premise, but the dude from better call saul who plays the main harlequin just absolutely kills it. it's really a great episode
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Apr 30, 2020 23:07
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I think Quark actually asks for gold as payment in Little Green Men, but that's star trek.
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From the Vulcan perspective, Spock was a backwards redneck. I am in no way trying to minimise the OP which may well be the highest art our kind will ever attain.
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Apr 30, 2020 23:49
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mossyfisk posted:I think Quark actually asks for gold as payment in Little Green Men, but that's star trek. Well, they were in a pre-latinum Earth era.
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Frog Act posted:continuing my VOY rewatch and I think the terrible memorableness of Tuvix and it's sheer stupidity overshadows the episode that comes before it, "The Thaw". the whole premise, three alien caretakers trapped in a simulation with a bunch of giddy clown-like manifestations of fear isn't inherently that creative as a trek premise, but the dude from better call saul who plays the main harlequin just absolutely kills it. it's really a great episode Michael McKean is in Better Call Saul? I Didn't know that. Maybe someday I'll check it out, cause I also like Bob Odenkirk.
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The General posted:Michael McKean is in Better Call Saul? I Didn't know that. Maybe someday I'll check it out, cause I also like Bob Odenkirk. McKean loving kills it in BCS, some of the best drama of his career. Definitely check it out.
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May 1, 2020 02:59
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Dwayne Johnson bursts into the Voyager writers' room. "WHO'S BOOKING THIS CRAP?!"
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OutsideAngel posted:McKean loving kills it in BCS, some of the best drama of his career. Definitely check it out. Jonathan Banks also shows up for one episode in DS9, as Gohlin Shel-la, or rather Mike Ehmantraut with a bad wig.
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May 1, 2020 03:23
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Wanted By Weed posted:Jonathan Banks also shows up for one episode in DS9, as Gohlin Shel-la, or rather Mike Ehmantraut with a bad wig. Oh poo poo, that was him
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Frog Act posted:Either latinum value is inconsistent or Ezri is the richest character we ever meet in Trek. Quark goes bonkers over morns winnings in the Lissepian Lottery which was, I think, 1000 bars, it’s implied that’s enough to set him and others up for life. A few seasons later Ezris brother mentions a mining disruption slowing efficiency in one device in one mine is costing them a thousand bars a day Ezri's family is hella rich, yes. They own a major mining concern outside the Federation. They're loaded.
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Animal-Mother posted:Dwayne Johnson bursts into the Voyager writers' room. At the very least, they could have tried to incorporate some of the pro-wrestling face/heel shittalk into the episode.
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Bogus Adventure posted:At the very least, they could have tried to incorporate some of the pro-wrestling face/heel shittalk into the episode. Everyone already smells what Neelix is cooking
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Bogus Adventure posted:At the very least, they could have tried to incorporate some of the pro-wrestling face/heel shittalk into the episode. The Rock shouting unintelligible alien gibberish while the crowd eats it up would've really made that ep shine.
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mossyfisk posted:I think Quark actually asks for gold as payment in Little Green Men, but that's star trek.
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Ghostlight posted:He does but I think that's more because he knows gold is the most valuable thing humans have at the time rather than because he actually wants gold. It's this, he's greedy but not stupid. If the locals are trading beads, you take beads.
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Wanted By Weed posted:Jonathan Banks also shows up for one episode in DS9, as Gohlin Shel-la, or rather Mike Ehmantraut with a bad wig. 
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Bashir: Captain, when did you stop having to escort the VIPs? Sisko: when I hit one of them. It was a simple ‘misunderstanding’ over one of them trying to coax a young ensign to his quarters. Same episode: Odo: One of the ambassadors is being sexually aggressive towards me, I need help! Sisko: lol nice have u considered banging her I know Odo isn’t exactly a young ensign, but that’s some double standard dude... Still, at least this episode (s1e16) highlights one of the best things about real Trek. Every character is treated with dignity. It would have been easy to make Odo a boring stick-in-the-mud who gets shown that he needs to come out of his shell, which is basically how Sisko treats him here. Instead they let Odo be who he is and keep true to the core of his personality. Even the invading computer ’program’ is treated as a valid lifeform that needs to be respected rather than destroyed or changed. Picard and Disco are not Trek because they do not give their characters basic dignity and respect. QED
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Zeinin posted:Why is Picard being so cold to Will? He is intentionally freezing him out in the first episode. Picard struggles with children because they reflect his insecurity at the youth, inexperience and impulsiveness of humanity as a recent ascendent to the galactic stage. They represent aspects of the human experience he may rhetorically elevate, but doesn't try to embody himself. In that way they also reflect his insecurities about his own limitations. Or in nu Trek terms: Picard turns to camera, "I am bad with children, because. I just can't seem to...ENGAGE them!" everyone: "Oh, JL!" The other half of this is he wants to bone Crusher but because of aforementioned emotional difficulties can't unpack those feelings, has guilt because of the death of her husband, and sees Will as a lingering reminder of this guilt and his failure. But since it's S1 it's a sound characterization idea executed just so, so poorly.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Bashir: Captain, when did you stop having to escort the VIPs? I watched this episode pretty recently and I'm pretty sure it was implied that it was borderline attempted rape. I think he said "physicality" or "forcefully" coax.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Still, at least this episode (s1e16) highlights one of the best things about real Trek. Every character is treated with dignity. It would have been easy to make Odo a boring stick-in-the-mud who gets shown that he needs to come out of his shell, which is basically how Sisko treats him here. Instead they let Odo be who he is and keep true to the core of his personality. Even the invading computer ’program’ is treated as a valid lifeform that needs to be respected rather than destroyed or changed. Picard and Disco are not Trek because they do not give their characters basic dignity and respect. QED Great point -- this is a fault with a lot of supposedly diverse corporate media. It doesn't embrace diversity at all and is actually very normative that everyone should end up a neurotic Whedon-vomiting friends forever quipbot action puncher. Most pulp sci-fi has it to a lesser degree in celebrating characters when they reject some stereotype of their species to act more "human", "human" usually smuggling in something petty or self interested. It makes sense for Spock (who is half human and struggles to connect with that half) or Data (who by his own choice strives to become more human), but is bizarre when applied to characters like TPal or Saru. Caveat of course that it can make sense when the entire species is a strawman for criticism, like the Ferengi, but DS9 eventually got beyond that with Quark, Rom and Nog.
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I just watched the episode where Keiko and Miles are about to vacation. She's like "we won't have TV, the kid isn't coming along..." Laying it on THICK that she wants that Lil Smiley. And Miles just says, "but I brought all these tech manuals to read!" Now I understand why Star Trek is popular here, O'Brian is The Ultimate Goon.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I just watched the episode where Keiko and Miles are about to vacation. She's like "we won't have TV, the kid isn't coming along..." He hadn't gotten to the tech manual on women yet.
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Going on vacation in Star Trek is a death sentence every time. Literally so for O'Brien.
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I can't attend that conference I wanna see my kids grow up
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The only thing more dangerous than going on vacation in star trek is being invited to a conference of any sort. You either get kidnapped by Bill Sadler for clandestine operations or sucked back in time to witness your friend's career as a Gestapo agent pinning blame on innocent workers. On the topic of Odo and women, there's also the episode which I think is called "A Simple Investigation" where Kira and Dad and gossiping about Odo being late for work cus he had a date, and when Sisko butts in he's just like: "A woman? That's niiiice...
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Sourdough Sam posted:Going on vacation in Star Trek is a death sentence every time. Literally so for O'Brien. Only some of the time. Other times, you get to indulge your terrorist tendencies. Or get brainwashed by Romulans. Or have Q interrupt your XO's shallow attempts to get you laid. Or meet the upperclassman who tormented you at the academy. Or find that you're trapped in a branching stream of parallel universes. Yeah, vacation/shore leave sucks, no wonder why Miles packed those tech manuals, the odds of getting to brawl with some OG Klingons in a bar fight is like 1.2% and that's the only desirable thing that can happen on shore leave
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Well to be fair, we only see the ones the camera operators were both included for and for which the footage survived, and on top of that what made it through editing. There's thousands of hours of footage of dull Federation lectures, meetings, conferences available on their digital archives, but talk about tedium.
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Although there's this one Bolian who gives a FED Talk I keep going back to, about the Bolian fascination with hair-growing species.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I can't attend that conference I wanna see my kids grow up "Why is Lieutenant Ramirez always staring into the middle distance like that?" "Dude's been in the poo poo for too long. He's seen things, man. Guy's been to at least seven conferences. Now the only time he's really alive is when he's attending a seminar on quantum phase coils."
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Communist Walrus posted:"Why is Lieutenant Ramirez always staring into the middle distance like that?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YOVN2BTSmI
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I bring you a video not to be missed from the other Star Trek thread. Super interesting video about the visual effects of TNG's exterior ship scenes, what could have been, and why they went the direction they did. Seeing the test for a pure CGI ship had me thinking, "wow, that looks surprisingly good, would have loved to see the series in this style!" Then they smash cut to an actual clip of TNG, and that thought went immediately out the window! It hammers home the point that not only did the physical models look far superior to CGI back then, some of those 30-year-old scenes still look better than modern CGI! The final aired shots they show off are absolutely gorgeous! 
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Doggles posted:I bring you a video not to be missed from the other Star Trek thread. I never understood why they don't get the best of both worlds. Physical models from 30 years ago look better than some of the best cgi. Why don't they make a physical model and make it 3d with photogrammetry? You'd have something that looks realistic in a form that's easy to manipulate.
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Sourdough Sam posted:Gold Pressed Latinum's value never seems all that clear. They appear to be little gold bars but they are never divided into anything other than whole numbers. Nothing is ever worth half a bar. In that episode where Quark is supposed to break into a shop to retrieve a blackmail list of Bajoran collaborators for that Cardassian lady he's offered like 5 bars. That doesn't seem like much? Every other time they're tossing numbers around in the hundreds. Not true. Bars, strips, slips, just off the top of my head. It's a whole series of standardized valuations for even the most granular of transactions. edit: Bricks. How did I forget bricks. Aoi fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 1, 2020 |
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Bogus Adventure posted:At the very least, they could have tried to incorporate some of the pro-wrestling face/heel shittalk into the episode. the Maquis crew members turn heel and join the alien villain of the week poo poo, i think that happened in season 2
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On season 3 of voyager now and I like that they just basically gave up on the delta quadrant stuff for awhile and did an episode set on earth using time travel and the one about Ferengi False Profits is in many ways a great episode, but I feel like it’s really similar to at least one other I’m forgetting the specifics of. Maybe I just mix it up because voyager is my least watched trek, which means this is only the seventh time I’ve seen it or something
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