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Hy_C posted:Squeezing the last bit of water from the stone. I fully expect fatigue pots for $$$. Yeah you can buy them in the depot already In other words, I'm putting this game in the backburner for good.
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# ? Feb 1, 2020 00:16 |
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:48 |
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The situation, as far as I know:
In conclusion: ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Feb 3, 2020 |
# ? Feb 3, 2020 00:07 |
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TBH the news surrounding fatigue is confusing and I've been reading about it say the day it was released in discord. I've been avoiding logging in since my internet is not great and I sometimes d/c for no reason not only will I lose drops but burning extra 10% each time for nothing is too much. Even if NX gave away free pots forever I feel like at least tokens they collected it after you cleared the boss vs each time the ship departs. So after 9 yrs NX found an even worse way to limit gameplay For comparison, VVIP is approx $15 vs $13 for FFXIV which is a much better game with actual support for players. Whales just gonna do their best to collect as many outfitters before the game is closed down so.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 02:09 |
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This whole mess makes me very sad, I was actually thinking of coming back for Lethor too since she looks really cool to me but now it's a way tougher sell. Also I find it kinda amusing Vindi still has enough of a population to shrink over this, I thought the only people left were the diehards who would never leave at this point.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 05:21 |
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A Cup of Ramen posted:This whole mess makes me very sad, I was actually thinking of coming back for Lethor too since she looks really cool to me but now it's a way tougher sell. I mean you're not wrong and it is a terrible time to return since Lether won't be out for 6+ months. The remaining pop actually is lower and boats aren't filling up so now we know that even the leftover ppl are leaving lol.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:24 |
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I forgot a point for the list: People in the official Discord have openly discussed moving to the private Vindi server. Just mentioning that for absolutely no reason.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 20:52 |
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ArchWizard posted:I forgot a point for the list: People in the official Discord have openly discussed moving to the private Vindi server. Just mentioning that for absolutely no reason. I feel like private servers in 2020 is a terrible joke IIRC the only real benefit was the avatar items being free and instead of 500 players, you could play with say 50.
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# ? Feb 3, 2020 21:57 |
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Ive gotten nearly halfway through Season 2 with Karok and I haven't team up with a single person since I came back. Game dead.
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# ? Feb 4, 2020 01:02 |
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If you love the game's soundtrack but don't want to play the game or go to YouTube or dig through your computer's file directory to find the .wavs, there's now a streaming music player at the devs' website: http://heroes.nexon.com/download/player. It's good. I think they're actually using higher-quality versions of the music than you can find in the game. Also, there's a surprise at the end of the playlist: Apparently, it's a bunch of recordings from a concert they did. The style is different from the in-game versions but they're good arrangements nonetheless.
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# ? Feb 6, 2020 06:19 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjilwTUGE5g Maintenance day. The players have spoken and Nexon has given in to all demands quote:Regarding Voice Feature Revamp For those of you who were asking for a challenge quote:The Hero's Challenge 12-man raids are good to run in general, so this is a nice bonus on top of the usual rewards. Special dungeons are almost never rewarding and I don't think this changes that. Still, it's a nice consolation prize for when you burn 20% fatigue and get nothing (or worse, a Fresh ES). ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Feb 12, 2020 |
# ? Feb 11, 2020 22:35 |
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We finally got an official statement on fatigue.quote:Update Regarding the Fatigue System
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 22:13 |
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There's no need for new outfitters if we can recycle old sets?!
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# ? Feb 18, 2020 23:56 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h46FaVtxedk Season 4 Prologue is coming on February 25th and with it is the Aodhan raid. People on the official Discord have been asking why he has to die and apparently Aodhan is mad because we're teaming up with the fomors (who killed his family, if you'll recall) to fight Macha and Balor and he refuses to simply sit this one out. People on the official Discord have also said he's really just an Astera raid disguised as an S4 raid so I doubt he'll drop anything special.
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# ? Feb 21, 2020 21:27 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJt66y0TBw An update arrived just the other day quote:Season 4: Prologue Story - Dawn of a New Era quote:The new boss this time is Aodhan, a familiar face to the heroes. Aodhan lived for revenge against the Fomors after they took the lives of his family in the past. His hatred for the Fomors did not fade, even after learning of the Pontiff's Court engineering the war. He understands the need for peace with the Fomors in the new era, but still cannot relinquish his hate and travels down a dark path. Turns out Aodhan drops something special: A new enchant scroll. "Meaningful" is what they're called and they're for accessories. +200 to ATT and M.ATT, +1 to SPD and +3 to crit resist. Not great, but there aren't many options for accessory enchants, and the typical enchant loadout will tank your crit resist so it's good to have. Also, I'm pretty sure we started our journey in Vindictus with Gallagher telling us to get it together, rookie. The game wants us to view Aodhan as a father figure but he didn't spend much time with us. So, exactly like a father figure to many people who grow up to lead lives of violence. The sweet release of death event quote:Aodhan's Raid Release Celebration Event quote:1. 'In Aodhan's Remembrance' Event quote:2. 2x Warm Welcome Ticket Event quote:3. 'No Fear, the Epaulet Is Here' Event A Raving Lune quote:'To Promise the Moon' Event More fatigue potions! I'm fatigued from all of these fatigue events! quote:Fatigue Potion Prize Wheel Event And the rest quote:v.2.61 Updates - Some minor bug fixes, mostly for cosmetic things that only whales care about - The stored AP limit has been removed, so go ahead and eat all of those AP capsules you've got stowed away
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 00:24 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp5sMSsfN4Q It's yet another future raid. Nyle and the Silent Brotherhood are mad because we're heretics, which sounds like a case of Horseshoe Theory in action. Now, in a sort-of parallel to fighting Brilliant Lugh as the ultimate Paladin, we have to fight Nyle as the ultimate Dark Knight. People have speculated that this battle could open up third transformation but people speculate a lot of things. The raid comes with a hefty chonkin' pile of updates, bugfixes, and boss tweaks that all look really good because they make annoying bosses less annoying, so maybe third transformation info is buried in those notes. Hurk solo vid (boss fight starts around 1:40): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VS0jasRzHw Just the music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NuipMfOUTU ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 4, 2020 |
# ? Mar 4, 2020 22:14 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4 Maintenance was done last night and now we have two more events. Nexon becomes a progressive force by implementing a green new deal quote:St. Patrick's Day Festival Event I mentioned way up there that you can get two clovers by completing all guild missions in one day. For gently caress's sake, don't do this. They haven't revised the missions to account for the Fatigue system so you'll burn well over a hundred fatigue points to do it. It's also tedious as poo poo. You really don't need to do it. Hot Time again quote:Spring Celebration Weekend Hot Time
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# ? Mar 10, 2020 22:19 |
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came back on a whim cause i have too much free time now and now im a billionaire
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# ? Mar 22, 2020 19:18 |
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Any ETA on punch wizard?
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# ? Mar 23, 2020 06:17 |
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Hy_C posted:Any ETA on punch wizard? I should probably note that tomorrow is the last day to buy fatigue spin tickets. If you don't use what you have stockpiled, they'll become worthless on Tuesday. ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Mar 23, 2020 |
# ? Mar 23, 2020 07:44 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPPSu0vaNWA It's update day and the notes are extensive. Take your protein pills and put your Rupacitus Hat on because this is going to take a while. Ch-ch-ch-updates quote:v.2.62 Updates quote:2. Character Balance Adjustment
quote:3. Battle Balance Changes In addition to that business, all raids from Dullahan on up to Marject have been "adjusted." Usually that means they've been made easier but they're already pretty darn easy if you have at least one whale in your party. Which is most of the time because the whales are all that are left. quote:4. Marketplace Improvement quote:5. UI Improvements quote:6. Other Changes There are a bunch of changes in the merc friendship mission here, despite the fact it would have made more sense to put it in section 1 with the other friendship stuff. Mercs now give you little gifts when you do missions with them. Sometimes. They also lowered the difficulties for all of the missions so now the in-battle benefits from strong friendships are even less necessary. The boss in Colhen Night Mission spawns even sooner, so you can get that over with more quickly. In Infiltration and Sheep Saving, enemies don't respawn immediately, so crowd control is a ton easier. Equipment Upgrading is easier because your buddy is less likely to completely clown on your Ferghus-sized rear end. Finally, possibly the best change of all: Closeness never decreases. If you ever decide you're sick and tired of grinding closeness by chitchatting to mercs fifty to sixty times, you can just take a week off and they won't complain. Well, they will complain, but there won't be any mechanical consequences for it. We can be heroes, just once per day quote:Go Forth on Missions With Mercs Event The Temporal Box returns quote:Temporal Box Event Rerun The April Fool's event is here in a most peculiar way quote:Strange News Travels & Lying Wood Man Another wheel event quote:Twice as Nice Prize Wheel Event Hot Week, I love you so quote:Spring Celebration Hot Week Event!
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# ? Mar 25, 2020 00:10 |
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seems like a whole lot of ways to say we didn't remove fatigue yet
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# ? Mar 26, 2020 12:15 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:seems like a whole lot of ways to say we didn't remove fatigue yet Some more juicy stuff got posted in #future_updates on the official Discord. Milo gets a new portrait for Season 4 because he's the new king of whatever country we're in: They call him the king but he looks like he's turning into Baron Harkonnen. In addition to this horrifying turn of events, something else is making a comeback: A solo mode for raids. Every raid from Dullahan on up will get a version where the boss's health is scaled way down to make it easy for normal players to beat the boss by themselves within a sensible length of time. The downside is that you won't get as many cores. At first I thought that's okay because this (I hope) lets you avoid QB runs where some whales cheat you out of your drops by vaporizing the boss in a few minutes. Then I remembered that soloing raid bosses is lame as hell. It's not fun. Fun is teaming up with people. The real loot... is the friends you make along the way ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 2, 2020 |
# ? Apr 2, 2020 22:41 |
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ArchWizard posted:We got rid of silver tokens, we can get rid of fatigue. Just be patient and don't give money to Nexon unless you're completely broke and desperate. How could they do this to me.
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# ? Apr 3, 2020 03:24 |
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Milo is coming back... And that's what he looks like? Eugghhh
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 05:00 |
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I have to give it to NX for selling a $70 "battle pass" in these trying times...think of the F2P devs
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 21:39 |
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Alder posted:I have to give it to NX for selling a $70 "battle pass" in these trying times...think of the F2P devs
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# ? Apr 4, 2020 22:41 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbGEuNi2SKs Maintenance happened and now we have events for Easter. I've heard of nest eggs but this is ridiculous quote:Egg Inside an Egg Event Finally, unlimited grace time on Easter Sunday. You can guess why. You say Adios and I say Hello quote:Adios & Hello Raid Event This event's looking a bit harsh. Lots of fighting and raiding to get anything, but there's a lot that's worth getting. Especially the Damascus Steel, which is hard to come by most of the time and is sorely needed to empower your equipment enough to join endgame raids.
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 00:19 |
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still a lot of words for fatigue potions being still in the game
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 21:28 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:still a lot of words for fatigue potions being still in the game
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 21:36 |
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ArchWizard posted:If you play the game but don't buy NX and discourage people from buying NX, you're doing more financial damage to Nexon than if you simply refuse to play. Also, Tadders is getting his friends to play the game too, so we're actually more active than we have been in a long time. i sign on and do my maintenance stuff, should prolly get around to making an astera +14 too but
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 23:25 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:i sign on and do my maintenance stuff, should prolly get around to making an astera +14 too but
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# ? Apr 8, 2020 23:29 |
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ArchWizard posted:They're going to make reforging Astera a lot cheaper in the near future so you should stock up on steel now, if you can bring yourself to play that much. I am sitting on a cool 2b, but yeah prolly a good idea. I have a +11 astera pd i also need to stop playing league of bad game before it rots my soul
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# ? Apr 9, 2020 00:29 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L562UQkA8eA Turns out the people who kept telling me that Season 4 Episode 1 is coming out this week were right all along. First real boss of the season is Cesar. They're bringing battles where you have to fight normal mobs and then the boss back on the forefront, so have fun mindlessly beating the poo poo out of some dudes before you get to the important bits. (I thought we all figured out years ago that we just want to get in, fight bosses, and get on with our lives, but if Fatigue is any indication our opinions don't matter. At least they're not bringing back S2-style mega-dungeons, I guess? ). Cesar is also special because he's the first boss to have the new Toughness mechanic: In addition to health, he has a blue bar that indicates that he's immune to hold skills. You have to beat on him for a while to break that Toughness and make him vulnerable, and hitting with a hold skill resets the bar. Karok's Clash and Kai's "hop on the dude's back and shoot him in the head execution-style" move still work regardless of how Tough the boss is. I don't know if there are any other exceptions. I assume that Chain Vella's Frostbite works for getting flinches regardless of Toughness. I hope it does. So far, nothing else has been announced. No idea if we're getting free +12 Dullahan sets or cheaper Astera gear reforging. Would be nice to have those after events that give us lots of Damascus Steel.
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# ? Apr 20, 2020 07:10 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2IPF4XngRs We've got a big update today. We come to farm this guy, not to praise him quote:Season 4: Episode 1 - Cesar quote:Cesar has been enhanced by Enok, freely wielding the one-armed cannon which an ordinary human can't handle. I'm not a huge fan of the devs trying to force battles to have stuff like scripted sequences. They can be interesting but they're usually just frustrating and they get tedious when you run the same raids every day for months or years. Also, it's pretty satisfying when a capable party successfully coordinates their hold skills to cheese annoying bosses. But I totally get that the devs don't want bosses to be pathetic loser idiots. The difference between a uninteresting boss and a boss who's legitimately threatening often comes down to how well they can control the flow of battle and Tenacity is a way to help bosses do that without having mystery immunity to hold skills. quote:Cesar freely wields a mace, making himself a threat in melee combat. Et two point six three, Brute? Wait, poo poo I used that joke already I should have saved it for this oh no quote:1. v.2.63 Updates A bunch of Astera raids got their Counterforce requirements turned down. Some got reductions of 5-15 points. Some got only 1-2 point reductions. From the look of things, the devs wanted all CF requirements to be multiples of 5, which is probably the only reason a few of these raids got any reductions at all. Finally, a couple of weekly missions got tweaked. One mission to use 20 transformations now gives a reward worth having. Before, it gave a 60-80 power infusion stone which was, frankly, not worth it. Now it gives an intermediate stone, which can actually be used on endgame gear. But just one stone isn't worth much so welp The other change is that the easy missions to buy secret boxes now gives element stone catalysts instead of blessed magic elixir. Guess I need to be careful with my Brynns now that I have to craft my elixirs again. quote:2. Lv. 105 and Above (New Lv. 105 Items) quote:3. Season 4 NPC Crafting and Expertise Revamp quote:4. New Material Dungeon: Bathed in Red quote:6. Drop Item Revamp The Warm Welcome shop has been changed. The old secret boxes have been replaced with new secret boxes that give better drops for the same price. The old kitty tickets can be turned into the new kitty tickets at a rate of 2->1. The Aes Sidhe Essence is now in the Seal Shop. Finally. Of course, if you played during the egg event you're probably half-swamped with those Dullahan/Aes Sidhe essence choice boxes anyway, but whatever. Speaking of the Seal Shop: A bunch of materials are roughly 20% cheaper. Damascus Steel is not cheaper and neither are the runes so it's mostly for newbies who want to reforge level 95 gear. Finally, the new free Dullahan sets are here. The two old quests, Looming Conflict and Unified Front, got replaced with four quests that give the Dullahan gear, stones and runes to cheaply enhance the gear to +12/+13, +15 Eochaid Earrings and Abomination Belt, and... I don't know what the last quest gives. You have to re-do the Eochaid/Abom quest even if the accessories you have are better. Or if you've already done Looming Conflict. So I don't know if you get +15 rings. Good job devs. Steel yourselves for this good giveaway event quote:Lv. 100 Support On-Time Event gently caress you Gallagher quote:New Era Material Dice Game Event An event to celebrate other events that celebrate other events and so on quote:One-Two-Three for the Returned Hero This departure event is no departure from the norm quote:Additional Departure Support Event No, seriously: gently caress you Gallagher quote:Gallagher Will Restore Your Fatigue! A very special check-in event quote:Gremlin's Checkered Flag Check-In!
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# ? Apr 22, 2020 03:39 |
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I think the saddest part is how I can't hoard the steels like why? There's no way I can afford to reforge using all 250 and maybe I want to upgrade my alts too edit: I'm not sure how I feel about the mercs stalking me as I login now or visit other stores ... Alder fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Apr 22, 2020 |
# ? Apr 22, 2020 21:14 |
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ArchWizard posted:Log in and stay logged in to get up to four Damascus Steels per day, tradeable within your account. Four steels doesn't sound like much but the event is going to run for several months so it's going to add up very nicely. There are two catches. The first is that they expire at the end of the event, so you need to use the things instead of hoarding them like a sensible person. The second is that they don't work on Milletian gear, so if you're on top of the game, as it were, gently caress you. Actually, if you're that rich gently caress you anyway, ya gently caress. Someone craft me a level 105 guillotine. *swimming in mountain of gold, scrooge mcduck style* rude
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Addenda and errata: Cesar has a cinematic instakill attack that they don't tell you about and they only barely allude to it. It sucks because it's not really well-telegraphed. On the plus side, I've seen so many people die to it that I don't feel stupid. You also get a title for dying to it. Hooray. On top of that, you can get a title for beating Cesar without getting hit by the incendiary beam. The Counterforce requirement chart is backwards. They increased CF requirements for all those raids, even though Counterforce is stupid. That's why they have to give away pre-enhanced accessories. And you can't even run several raids with the accessories they give away unless you drink a Kitty Potion on top of that. It is now considered "a good idea" for people to farm Red Ship Graveyard, even on their lovely alts, because you can sell the New Era mats to rich players. This, in spite of the horrendous Fatigue cost and the fact that Ship Graveyard bosses are pretty high up on the list of bosses everybody hates to fight. But it is a solo dungeon and enemy durability is mostly balanced for it. The downside is that you have to do all of the work yourself. The title for doing Astera raids isn't for beating Claire, Elchulus, or Macha a total of twelve times. It's for beating each boss twelve times, for a total of thirty-six runs. It's demanding, but at least you're guaranteed to get a couple of Astera mats from the exchange shop along the way. Boy, can you imagine doing thirty-six Astera runs and getting jack poo poo for it? Even with thirty of them being with the benefit of Goddess Guidance, which boosts your drop rate? And knowing that you had to spend all that Fatigue going in, regardless of what you got out of the raid? Ha ha, wow, this would be such a bad game if it did that. Heh. Rock-Paper-Scissors is rigged in your favor, for certain meanings of "in your favor." If you want fatigue potions, it's rigged in your favor. If you want the title for losing five times in a row, it's set up to spite you. From my own experience, the odds of losing are close to one in ten. But Tadders got the title and sold it for 40 million, so it's definitely possible. ArchWizard fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Apr 28, 2020 |
# ? Apr 28, 2020 01:04 |
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I really, really appreciate how incredibly mailed in Bathed in Red is. Like y'all just introduced an obnoxious pay 2 win, added more dumb regearing, and a new boss that requires you to regear to do and you then mail in a new area that isn't even a tile swap, it's literally just a copy+paste with a red filter slapped on and more boss health? AND to boot it's one of the worst season 2 areas you ever made? Like that's incredible. I actually respect that level of grift.
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# ? May 1, 2020 20:37 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I really, really appreciate how incredibly mailed in Bathed in Red is. Like y'all just introduced an obnoxious pay 2 win, added more dumb regearing, and a new boss that requires you to regear to do and you then mail in a new area that isn't even a tile swap, it's literally just a copy+paste with a red filter slapped on and more boss health? AND to boot it's one of the worst season 2 areas you ever made?
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# ? May 1, 2020 21:24 |
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ArchWizard posted:They're almost certainly going to reuse more S2 dungeons even though they're all bad. People have seen this coming since Crescent Moon Island got turned into the first guild dungeon. I was going to say it's better than never seeing these maps again but early Season 2 really was a cesspit of terrible dungeon design, wasn't it? They already did the best they could by chopping up the big dungeons into normal dungeons. You can't do much more than that without completely changing them. Awful dungeon design and hideous boss fights. Like especially the bees and then the flying gremlins in late season 2. Because all these maps and bosses were designed for the brief dark period of "Jump" and then they just left them in.
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