|
mystes posted:Anticheat software does really crazy stuff that you aren't supposed to do, which is why it keeps breaking new versions of windows. I'm surprised Microsoft even allows them to continue doing these things but I guess they're worried it would hurt the pc gaming market. yeah, I've been involved in the development of anticheat software before, and despite only ever doing user mode stuff we still did some frankly wonky stuff to catch people doing dumb things to our game. it worked because very few people were willing to shell out for crazy poo poo like pcie cards that gently caress with the game's memory by busmastering and DMAing poo poo you tell it to.
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 12:43
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 19:27 |
|
|
oh hey , a secfuck thread that lived to see the yospos page you don't see that every day
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 12:48
|
|
|
gently caress, terrible snipe on my part
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 13:31
|
|
|
just use server-side behavioural anticheat to catch blatant speedhacks and aimbots and the like if someone's hacking to give themselves an edge, but are doing it so subtly that nobody they're playing against notices, who gives a poo poo?
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 13:44
|
|
|
Jabor posted:just use server-side behavioural anticheat to catch blatant speedhacks and aimbots and the like Gamers will absolutely lose their poo poo at an imperceptible (or imagined) advantage.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 14:03
|
|
|
Achmed Jones posted:I just make up some nonsense that could be plausible. like for my childhood dog's name it might be "sir boddington fluffpaws, duke of the terlet". and then i put that in the password manager Shouldn't this be "His Grace Boddington Fluffpaws" (unless you're addressing a letter in which case: "His Grace The Duke of The Terlet")? I think "Sir" would be omitted since you only use the senior-most form of address?  Source: http://leh.ncl.ac.uk/PDF%27s/LEH-Classification/LEH-CLASSIFICATION7.13LORDS&LADIES.pdf E: Unless the toilet in question is Scottish? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 14:47 on May 2, 2020 |
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 14:23
|
|
|
Jabor posted:just use server-side behavioural anticheat to catch blatant speedhacks and aimbots and the like i bet it's a cost thing. extra logic to detect cheats is more cpu cycles, which means maybe one less game can be hosted on a server at a time. so it's cheaper just to inject poo poo into the users kernel and add more security holes.
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 15:44
|
|
|
server side analysis is also much more prone to false positives, in contrast with client side countermeasures
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 15:56
|
|
|
Kazinsal posted:most anticheats have a ring0 component. the difference with vanguard is that it loads at boot instead of on-demand so it can't be hooked at load time by cheat software at least it pops a friendly dialogue box that says "oh btw i killed buggy_bullshit.sys, click here to learn more, click there to boot without me and run your broken garbage" so you have to chose between rgb motherboard light software that has godmode access to all your ram for reasons they totally promise are legit dood, or you can play a shootmans game against people with only the newest $1200 a month cheating software
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 16:41
|
|
|
CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i like to put "will you marry me, jennifer?" in the off-chance that the person i'm calling has that name and it makes some poor bastard's life at home total hell when he doesn't propose to her lol
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 17:04
|
|
|
flakeloaf posted:at least it pops a friendly dialogue box that says "oh btw i killed buggy_bullshit.sys, click here to learn more, click there to boot without me and run your broken garbage" the russians used a playstation
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 17:25
|
|
|
Kazinsal posted:yeah, I've been involved in the development of anticheat software before, and despite only ever doing user mode stuff we still did some frankly wonky stuff to catch people doing dumb things to our game. it worked because very few people were willing to shell out for crazy poo poo like pcie cards that gently caress with the game's memory by busmastering and DMAing poo poo you tell it to. honestly i'd be very interested to hear about how this stuff works under the hood, if you ever want to make an effortpost about it and aren't bound by a bunch of NDA's or something. seems like the kind of thing that would be like those crazy eve online shenanigans where people were subtly watermarking forums so they could detect who leaked screenshots
|
|
#
?
May 2, 2020 22:46
|
|
|
The lengths people will go to cheat in something that will never matter at all is crazy. Like cheating at golf by shaving a stroke or two off the scorecard; it's opportunistic. I get that. But running around the map instantly headshotting everyone for the win in an online match that will be immediately forgotten the second it ends???
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 00:17
|
|
|
hurting other people is fun
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 00:28
|
|
|
i used to cheat in CS on the college lan cause people got super mad.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 00:32
|
|
|
Who could have guessed that Shaggar enjoys doing things to annoy other people.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 00:34
|
|
|
i also used to go on this one NS server and wallhack the admin because he was an idiot and was absolutely convinced the 3rd party anti-cheat he had installed did something other than slow down the server.
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 00:36
|
|
|
Shaggar posted:i also used to go on this one NS server and wallhack the admin because he was an idiot and was absolutely convinced the 3rd party anti-cheat he had installed did something other than slow down the server. wow you sure showed him
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 03:10
|
|
|
lmao who's going to install a chinese owned CEO-literally-fart-on-female-intern video game company's kernel driver. they can't even build an electron UI that doesn't crash every 45 minutes
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 03:29
|
|
|
Methanar posted:lmao who's going to install a chinese owned CEO-literally-fart-on-female-intern video game company's kernel driver. but enough about our phones
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 03:34
|
|
|
they use different words in the ad
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 03:36
|
|
|
abigserve posted:Like cheating at golf by shaving a stroke or two off the scorecard; it's opportunistic. I get that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yNDJH_FyN4
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 08:13
|
|
|
Methanar posted:chinese owned CEO-literally-fart-on-female-intern video game company wait what
|
|
#
?
May 3, 2020 22:36
|
|
|
Farmer Crack-rear end posted:wait what https://kotaku.com/top-riot-executive-suspended-without-pay-following-inve-1831084598
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 03:46
|
|
|
still not as bad as the guy who decided to test his employee's allergy with bees
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 06:39
|
|
|
https://siguza.github.io/psychicpaper/ lol (short version: due to ios using different implementations of xml parsing for different modules, it is possible to craft a malformed entitlements list that will grant different privileges depending on which subsystem is examining it)
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 15:12
|
|
|
quote:I dubbed it “psychic paper” because, just like the item by that name that Doctor Who likes to carry, it allows you get past security checks and make others believe you have a wide range of credentials that you shouldn’t have. 
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 15:16
|
|
|
haveblue posted:https://siguza.github.io/psychicpaper/ And their fix was to have more parsers, which means there's likely more of these bugs out there. Dont assume multiple parsers for anything complicated behave identically kids.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 17:23
|
|
|
the fix seems to be to parse it twice and abort if they differ, which is if not galaxy brain at least solar system brain
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 17:37
|
|
|
haveblue posted:the fix seems to be to parse it twice and abort if they differ, which is if not galaxy brain at least solar system brain a better approach than the 737 max 8 :v
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 18:30
|
|
|
Phone posted:a better approach than the 737 max 8 :v well, no, precisely the same. it is the nature of the "aborting" people are complaining about.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 19:28
|
|
|
Microsoft had released its own anti-cheat for windows 10, TruePlay which no one used and seems to also have quietly vanished from windows 10, there is still a non functional link for it in https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/graphics-and-multimedia though.
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 22:05
|
|
|
haveblue posted:still not as bad as the guy who decided to test his employee's allergy with bees this actually rules lol
|
|
#
?
May 4, 2020 22:49
|
|
|
CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:this actually rules lol https://youtu.be/QQ9VNbXUFpY
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2020 00:00
|
|
|
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/godaddy-notifies-users-of-breached-hosting-accounts/ lol
|
|
#
?
May 5, 2020 13:56
|
|
|
The Australian company Toll Group have been ransomware'd for the second time this year: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/toll-group-suffers-second-ransomware-attack-this-year-547757 And their CIO has done a runner to another company: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/toll-group-cio-jumps-to-tabcorp-547753
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2020 09:30
|
|
|
https://www.wired.com/story/cam4-adult-cam-data-leak-7tb/ new day new sex work site breachShame Boy posted:honestly i'd be very interested to hear about how this stuff works under the hood, if you ever want to make an effortpost about it and aren't bound by a bunch of NDA's or something. seems like the kind of thing that would be like those crazy eve online shenanigans where people were subtly watermarking forums so they could detect who leaked screenshots https://secret.club/ this is a fairly cool resource if you're into that type of stuff
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2020 12:32
|
|
|
Kazinsal posted:most anticheats have a ring0 component. the difference with vanguard is that it loads at boot instead of on-demand so it can't be hooked at load time by cheat software pretty much everything modern/useful does, excluding vac specifically. valve did just gaslight players into working for them for free, and used that to construct a cheat detection system that has detection-to-judgement time of up 18 months. some of the stuff they do is fairly cool, e.g. vacnet, but it ultimately is a slow and clunky apparatus of the sort of ussr wet-cleaning entire moscow for 1980 olympics
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2020 12:43
|
|
|
cinci zoo sniper posted:https://secret.club/ this is a fairly cool resource if you're into that type of stuff every time I fall down the secret.club hole, I briefly think that it would be fun to do kernel work again
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2020 16:04
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 26, 2024 19:27 |
|
|
What does VAC actually do to detect cheating?
|
|
#
?
May 6, 2020 22:14
|
|