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ranbo das
Oct 16, 2013


Animal posted:

Are funko pops worthless like Beanie Babies? Like sometimes I despair at how much I’ve spent on wrist watches but I have no debt and I know I could just sell them and get most of the money back. This guy has spent well over twice as much on these things. If he does decide to go All-In BWM and ignore his debt, could the creditors liquidate that doll collection and get even a fraction of what he spent on it?

They have value right now. Whether that continues (lol) or whether they suddenly collapse overnight (likely) remains to be seen.

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

ranbo das posted:

They have value right now. Whether that continues (lol) or whether they suddenly collapse overnight (likely) remains to be seen.

Funko stock is down ~90% from its peak value. It was down around ~78% from peak before the stock market tanked from COVID-19.

This may be a rare situation where investing in Pops is a better investment strategy that investing in the company itself.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

There's a small number of them you could sell for a couple grand. Not that it matters. These people are usually obsessed and they'd stop paying their mortgage before they'd let one of their precious toys go. Living under a bridge, jealously standing guard over plastic bins full of molding funkos.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Geez talk about BWM.

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Animal posted:

Geez talk about BWM.

Bridges with mold

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Baubles, Wastefully Moldering.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

Guest2553 posted:

Baubles, Wastefully Moldering.

:golfclap:

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
At the intersection of BWM/GWM I think it's actually an interesting time to make spending decisions because if you're fortunate enough to be making money in this economy there aren't a lot of great places to put it. Treasuries are historically low yield, equity prices are inflated - given that at this second they're trading at historic forward P:E ratios. I would argue that one of the best things you can do is durable personal consumer spending. Furniture is getting extremely cheap, televisions are cheap, cars are going to get cheap, it will be REALLY interesting to see what happens with real estate valuations.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
The only funko-pop thing I've ever seen that I liked (and I wonder if this would make $$ if you were good at it?) is a guy who does really slick custom paint-jobs / re-sculpts on them. But seeing as the funko company outright stated in some interview that most of their customers [para] "buy just one, and then buy a ton more," I wouldn't dare even buy one.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom Vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

Wicked Them Beats posted:

There's a small number of them you could sell for a couple grand. Not that it matters. These people are usually obsessed and they'd stop paying their mortgage before they'd let one of their precious toys go. Living under a bridge, jealously standing guard over plastic bins full of molding funkos.

Until the bubble breaks, at least. People did this for beanie babies too (beanie_divorce.jpg). Irrational exuberance breaks people's brains, but once the mania is over people realize it's just cheap tulip bulbs stuffed toys plastic crap

fart barterer
Aug 24, 2006


David Byrne - Like Humans Do (Radio Edit).mp3
Man I didn't think to dig through that guy's post history. From 3 years ago:

quote:

I just ordered a pretty cheap Conan ghostbusters on eBay ($80) and then I ordered a Wilson Fisk on amazon. I am going to put Conan's head on Wilson Fisk's body. I have never made a custom before. I know how to take the head off (hot water), I was wondering if anyone had any tips on how to get the head back on. Thank you!

e: Lol assuming this was one of you:

quote:

OP have you considered selling your Funko Pop collection to help pay the debt? Just a thought.

quote:

No. Did consider using the government handout I got like everyone else. Oh wait... I don’t get an extra $600 for unemployment even though I’m working front lines. Oh wait, I didn’t get a 1200 stimulus check even though I’m front lines. Maybe I’ll use government issues hazard pay...oops wrong again.

Why didn't he get a stimulus check? If he's married they're well under the household limit.

fart barterer fucked around with this message at 21:16 on May 3, 2020

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
Buy fewer candles. No.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Funkopop candles: they only get scarcer after every use!

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

androo posted:

Why didn't he get a stimulus check? If he's married they're well under the household limit.

Didn't he say him and his wife are nurse practitioners? They're probably making well above the $150k limit. Depending on field they could be jointly grossing as much as $250k.

They aren't actually struggling for cash, he's just mad that he owes $100k that he'd rather spend on toys.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Another thing, $100,000 is a lot of student loans for a nurse practitioner. I've known people who borrowed half of that to pay for the entire thing. It seems he finished school recently, and his Funko Pop flex posts are a year old.

This guy probably bought a large portion of his $26,000 Funko Pop collection using the student loans he's trying to default on.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Wicked Them Beats posted:

Didn't he say him and his wife are nurse practitioners? They're probably making well above the $150k limit. Depending on field they could be jointly grossing as much as $250k.

They aren't actually struggling for cash, he's just mad that he owes $100k that he'd rather spend on toys.

Average salary for a General Nurse Practitioner is $107,480 per year. If they are a specialist, then it could be more. The BLS says that the bottom 10% of nurse practitioners have a salary of ~$82k. So, they are definitely above the income limit.

The income difference between a nurse and a nurse practitioner is huge.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes291171.htm#nat

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Animal posted:

Another thing, $100,000 is a lot of student loans for a nurse practitioner. I've known people who borrowed half of that to pay for the entire thing. It seems he finished school recently, and his Funko Pop flex posts are a year old.

This guy probably bought a large portion of his $26,000 Funko Pop collection using the student loans he's trying to default on.

Google says average cost of a NP program is $22.5k. He spent 5x that. Even if we are generous and assume that 100% of living expenses were tied up in that count, it is still a lot.

Someone on the last page found a way to get $150k in loans for a TV and Film Studies degree from the University of Vermont and another person managed to spend $250k on a video game design degree. I'm sure it is pretty easy to find a way to spend $100k on a nurse practitioner degree.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

androo posted:

Man I didn't think to dig through that guy's post history. From 3 years ago:


e: Lol assuming this was one of you:



Why didn't he get a stimulus check? If he's married they're well under the household limit.


The giant balls of this guy to bitch about not getting his "handouts" (because he and his wife make too much money) while trying to weasel out of a student loan debt that, in this case, appears to have actually been worth it...if he didn't already have a long post history I'd swear this was some masterclass stdh.txt trolling but I think this guy is for real.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

Dik Hz posted:

The summation of 30 years of payments isn't a useful number because who knows what $1 will be worth 30 years from now. You can have some confidence that $1 will be worth ~$0.80 6 years from now, though.

I guess I don't understand this attitude at all, especially in this thread.

Why talk about the price of anything, then, if planning ahead is impossible because wHo kNoWs? If you are buying a $100,000 house, it seems really dishonest to not also consider that you are purchasing an $80,000 mortgage TODAY, so you are committing to a $180,000 purchase right now. Even if you don't pay it off for 30 years, and so (maybe?) it feels like less money in the future than it does right now, that house will still cost you $80k more in today's dollars than if you bought it in cash.

We talk about house prices all the time. We always consider car cost plus the financing cost. Yet the second biggest purchase most people will ever make in their lives NOBODY TALKS ABOUT, and people brush me off saying "well that's a useless number".

Ralith
Jan 12, 2011

I see a ship in the harbor
I can and shall obey
But if it wasn't for your misfortune
I'd be a heavenly person today

Switchback posted:

I guess I don't understand this attitude at all, especially in this thread.

Why talk about the price of anything, then, if planning ahead is impossible because wHo kNoWs? If you are buying a $100,000 house, it seems really dishonest to not also consider that you are purchasing an $80,000 mortgage TODAY, so you are committing to a $180,000 purchase right now. Even if you don't pay it off for 30 years, and so (maybe?) it feels like less money in the future than it does right now, that house will still cost you $80k more in today's dollars than if you bought it in cash.

We talk about house prices all the time. We always consider car cost plus the financing cost. Yet the second biggest purchase most people will ever make in their lives NOBODY TALKS ABOUT, and people brush me off saying "well that's a useless number".
You can and should make reasonable estimates of the total cost in today's dollars of a mortgage including interest. Blindly summing up every interest payment and ignoring the fact that they're distributed over time over which inflation and opportunity cost occur is not how you do that. You're grossly overestimating the total cost.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

i hosted a great goon meet and all i got was this lousy avatar
Grimey Drawer

Switchback posted:

I guess I don't understand this attitude at all, especially in this thread.

Why talk about the price of anything, then, if planning ahead is impossible because wHo kNoWs? If you are buying a $100,000 house, it seems really dishonest to not also consider that you are purchasing an $80,000 mortgage TODAY, so you are committing to a $180,000 purchase right now. Even if you don't pay it off for 30 years, and so (maybe?) it feels like less money in the future than it does right now, that house will still cost you $80k more in today's dollars than if you bought it in cash.

We talk about house prices all the time. We always consider car cost plus the financing cost. Yet the second biggest purchase most people will ever make in their lives NOBODY TALKS ABOUT, and people brush me off saying "well that's a useless number".

Mortgage rates have been historically low lately, and home prices have been going up a ton. Mortgage interest is tax-deductible. At the end of a mortgage, you theoretically have an asset that has appreciated a large amount, and a place to live that you only need to pay property tax on.

At the end of the average car loans these days (six years) you have an asset that's worth 25% of what you paid for it if you're very lucky, along with likely lower reliability and higher maintenance costs. Car loan interest isn't tax-deductible, and is usually higher than mortgage interest.

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

Switchback posted:

I guess I don't understand this attitude at all, especially in this thread.

Why talk about the price of anything, then, if planning ahead is impossible because wHo kNoWs? If you are buying a $100,000 house, it seems really dishonest to not also consider that you are purchasing an $80,000 mortgage TODAY, so you are committing to a $180,000 purchase right now. Even if you don't pay it off for 30 years, and so (maybe?) it feels like less money in the future than it does right now, that house will still cost you $80k more in today's dollars than if you bought it in cash.

We talk about house prices all the time. We always consider car cost plus the financing cost. Yet the second biggest purchase most people will ever make in their lives NOBODY TALKS ABOUT, and people brush me off saying "well that's a useless number".
If you make reasonable assumptions about inflation, the total cost of a 30-year mortgage at today's rates is about 35% less than the sum of the payments in current dollars. Of course, if you'd done the same 30 years ago, you'd come up with a vastly different number.

Those same assumptions only knock about 4-5% off the sum total of a 5-year auto note.

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
One of the nurses I work with: "It's so hard to save money now with all of these healthcare worker discounts. :v:"

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Thanatosian posted:

Mortgage rates have been historically low you theoretically have an asset that has appreciated a large amount,

Depending on what you mean by “significantly” (I’m guessing significantly more than inflation) this is a problematic assumption. It’s true in some markets and very much not in others. It’s also pretty unsustainable and there has to be some kind of correction eventually.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost
My wife is a nurse and she's been finding all these 50% offers from places like North Face and such. 8 had her send me what she was looking at buying, and I found a coupon code that got me within a couple bucks if what she got it for.

People's brains just go crazy when they think they're getting a special deal. It's just like how all the "normal" prices at Kohl's are inflated to make it seem like your no-name golf shirt at $25 should be compared with a much better quality shirt you know costs 50 or 60 somewhere else.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I got a bunch of good deals from J.Crew because J.Crew is about to die. Now I just need malls to open so I can return some of the stuff before J.Crew dies. This is a little different because (as of yet) there's been no credit crunch, but in 2007 when everything started to go to poo poo you could get some insane deals as long as you had money to spend.

Considering how the auto market has collapsed I don't see how we're going to avoid another Cash for Clunkers, if only to sell existing stock. So maybe not really good deals there and bye bye the used car market again.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Nocheez posted:

My wife is a nurse and she's been finding all these 50% offers from places like North Face and such. 8 had her send me what she was looking at buying, and I found a coupon code that got me within a couple bucks if what she got it for.

People's brains just go crazy when they think they're getting a special deal. It's just like how all the "normal" prices at Kohl's are inflated to make it seem like your no-name golf shirt at $25 should be compared with a much better quality shirt you know costs 50 or 60 somewhere else.

Kohl's entire pricing strategy is illegal in most of Europe and they are the subject of a class action lawsuit regarding their prices in the US that was filled in 2019 and hasn't been resolved yet.

Good luck getting any actual changes in policy from the class action lawsuit, though. They'll end up settling at worst and providing a rebate to some people.

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
They will settle it with Kohls cash

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Still waiting for my loving tunabux

Heffer
May 1, 2003

androo posted:


Can you guys please help me. My roommates and i are having a math problem with how to split our deposit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/gblba3/can_you_guys_please_help_me_my_roommates_and_i/
Our apartment 3 bedroom for 1 month was $4300 ( rounding numbers up )

roommate 1. put in 700

roommate 2. put in 700

and I roommate 3 put in $2900. ( I had bad credit and they said we had to have a bigger deposit to secure the lease )

I'm catching up on the thread over morning coffee and almost missed this. Their total deposit was $4300, equal to one month's rent, which is standard procedure.

The company didn't ask for a higher deposit; his roommates lied to him.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Heffer posted:

I'm catching up on the thread over morning coffee and almost missed this. Their total deposit was $4300, equal to one month's rent, which is standard procedure.

The company didn't ask for a higher deposit; his roommates lied to him.

What you're saying is probably true, but some markets are weird as hell. At our last place, the normal deposit was only $250 and they charged $500 because I didn't have a job. The rent was $950.

Our current place is only $250 and it's a few hundred more than the last place. I could totally see a rental company doing a small deposit normally but charging a month's rent if someone has derogatory credit or low income.

fart barterer
Aug 24, 2006


David Byrne - Like Humans Do (Radio Edit).mp3

BonerGhost posted:

What you're saying is probably true, but some markets are weird as hell. At our last place, the normal deposit was only $250 and they charged $500 because I didn't have a job. The rent was $950.

Our current place is only $250 and it's a few hundred more than the last place. I could totally see a rental company doing a small deposit normally but charging a month's rent if someone has derogatory credit or low income.

That's pretty cheap. My place had a flat $500 too, which is low for the area.

I had the same thought, but 700 x 3 is just about half of the rent, which could be a reasonable and non-arbitrary deposit to ask for if the applicants have decent credit. Either way, the answer to their conundrum is fairly simple assuming they were all equally liable for damages.

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


George H.W. oval office posted:

Still waiting for my loving tunabux

You're probably SOL then, because they finally sent them out back in September

fart barterer
Aug 24, 2006


David Byrne - Like Humans Do (Radio Edit).mp3
28 year old single income home owner. Lost my job on Friday. 5.25% interest on mortgage. Seems amazingly high. Can it be lowered without refinancing?
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/gdfkue/28_year_old_single_income_home_owner_lost_my_job/

quote:

Fixed 30 year loan. Credit score is 691. Haven’t missed a payment once. House was bought at 129k. San Antonio, Texas. Been on single income the whole time, no roommates. Loan is through Chase bank.

Pay off debt or other options?
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/gddpi4/pay_off_debt_or_other_options/

quote:

Greetings!

Currently I have about $27k in debt with an interest of 11% and paying the minimum of $500/ month on the credit card. My interest fees are about $250.

I have a savings of $20k not including my 401k. I’m still employed and make $150k /yr and my mortgage /HOA, basic necessities and car are my only other expenses which equal $5k monthly. I have an extra $1000 that is put into savings.

My question is, do I:

-Pay down the debt with my savings and left without an emergency fund? -Debt consolidation? -apply for a 0% balance transfer credit card? -take out a loan at a lower rate?

Let me know what worked for you and your thoughts and suggestions.

Thank you in advance!

Every other post on /r/personalfinance is someone making well into the six figures and being a complete loving idiot about it.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

androo posted:

28 year old single income home owner. Lost my job on Friday. 5.25% interest on mortgage. Seems amazingly high. Can it be lowered without refinancing?
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/gdfkue/28_year_old_single_income_home_owner_lost_my_job/


Pay off debt or other options?
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/gddpi4/pay_off_debt_or_other_options/


Every other post on /r/personalfinance is someone making well into the six figures and being a complete loving idiot about it.

I'm mad because 150k as a single person sounds like a ludicrous amount of money already, how the gently caress could you end up in debt and not know how to pay it back with that income. Jesus.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
You can't out-earn being bad with money. You just up the scale of how bad you are with money.

E: first guy doesn't seem too bad with money. Interest rate is a little high but his mortgage is probably like $1,000 a month. He just needs to find another job.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

SpartanIvy posted:

You can't out-earn being bad with money. You just up the scale of how bad you are with money.

That's why the high income stories are the best. They have a much larger shovel to dig their hole.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Motronic posted:

That's why the high income stories are the best. They have a much larger shovel to dig their hole.

Plus the schadenfreude is guilt free.

fart barterer
Aug 24, 2006


David Byrne - Like Humans Do (Radio Edit).mp3

SpartanIvy posted:

E: first guy doesn't seem too bad with money. Interest rate is a little high but his mortgage is probably like $1,000 a month. He just needs to find another job.

Yeah, for me it was just the "can it be lowered without refinancing?"

I'm finding a lot of /r/personalfinance is people who've almost come to terms with the hole they're in, but are making one last ditch effort for a get-out-of-jail-free card.

$129k at 5.25% is not something that's going to bury them, or be the thing that causes them to lose their house if they can't find a job, so it also just seems like a weird question.

OctaMurk posted:

I'm mad because 150k as a single person sounds like a ludicrous amount of money already, how the gently caress could you end up in debt and not know how to pay it back with that income. Jesus.

Curious where this person lives, too. Working remotely during the quarantine I'm spending about $2k for rent and all expenses in DC. I can't imagine what sort of mortgage/hoa and car knocks that up to $5k.

fart barterer fucked around with this message at 20:17 on May 4, 2020

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WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
I’m guessing the 5K “basic necessities” is just “normal monthly expenses if you don’t count things like concerts and vacations”.

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