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sweet geek swag posted:That makes very little sense because Sloan clearly has some resources to keep himself semi-hidden. A more accurate read is that section 31 is probably just 10-20 people who have wormed their way into critical but not necessarily high ranking positions throughout Starfleet. They don't have any real power but are capable of going undetected and causing havoc because they have their ears to the right walls. they probably made their convenient skulduggery-as-a-service indispensable to the sinister TNG admiral types via ross
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May 4, 2020 19:33
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s31 probably had very few agents but many more sympathizers, because there's never a shortage of assholes.
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May 4, 2020 19:42
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i could believe that every single starfleet admiral supported them while believing they were the only one, though. starfleet admirals are always such assholes.
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May 4, 2020 19:43
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:s31 probably had very few agents but many more sympathizers, because there's never a shortage of assholes. But Disco said that they had their own secret decoder badge and a whole fleet of ships!
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May 4, 2020 19:44
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A significant portion of the admiralty are possessed by hostile energy-beings but the only noticeable effect is that it chills them out a bit
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Blistex posted:But Disco said that they had their own secret decoder badge and a whole fleet of ships! I'm sure someone has put forth this theory before, but the logical explanation would be that Section 31 used to be Starfleet Intelligence in everything including name (or at least a synonym, like "The Agency" for the CIA), but then there was some "extremism in defense of liberty", house got cleaned top to bottom, and the Section 31 name got shitcanned in favor of the more professional "Starfleet Intelligence". Then, it was double-secret started up again as a few assholes going totally off the reservation on their own or with some unvouchered funds ( I think that's the term) appropriated by some super-rear end in a top hat Admiral who thought Starfleet needed some rules broken to ensure the Federation's safety. But there, I think I've put more thought into it than the Disco writers. (Caveat: haven't watched the second half of S2 but I'm p sure they don't address anything like this.)
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Chomp8645 posted:Besides the two goons who appear with Sloan in the introductory episode, since they just seem to be muscle, Section 31 had at least three operatives that we know of. I figured there were lots of people "working" for section 31 the same way Bashir was, but that the actual bureaucracy of the "organization" was run by just one man at any given time. sweet geek swag posted:That makes very little sense because Sloan clearly has some resources to keep himself semi-hidden. A more accurate read is that section 31 is probably just 10-20 people who have wormed their way into critical but not necessarily high ranking positions throughout Starfleet. They don't have any real power but are capable of going undetected and causing havoc because they have their ears to the right walls. But this makes sense, too. The point is it's not a second, shadow Starfleet with its own private military. It's the ugliest, deepest Id of Starfleet that Starfleet does its best to repress as much as possible.
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May 4, 2020 20:49
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*imagining bashir getting a single good character plot line ever* wow
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Pick posted:*imagining bashir getting a single good character plot line ever* wow He's one half of the "O'Brien and Bashir become pals" plot so there you go.
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May 4, 2020 21:01
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Star Trek is keeping my tenuous mental health juuuust in check
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May 4, 2020 22:32
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Pick posted:Star Trek is keeping my tenuous mental health juuuust in check IT'S REAL
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May 4, 2020 23:17
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Pick posted:Star Trek is keeping my tenuous mental health juuuust in check Wearing somebody’s aura like a sexy leather jacket is cool most of the time, sometimes you wanna take it off though huh?
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May 4, 2020 23:19
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God the Ocampa are stupid. The episode where Kes is jumping through time and has grandkids with Paris seven years ahead, and the doctor has hair for some reason, is just really stressing the stupidness of the whole Ocampa premise
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I think about that Voltaire song. Screwwww the Okampaaaaaa I wanna go hoooome
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like how does Harry Kim not feel incredibly weird about banging Kes’s one year old daughter whom he has known since she was a baby, and is also his best friends daughter The Voyager writers were either oblivious or giant creeps
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The Ocampa are one of those scifi concepts that work best in written form where you can either thoroughly explore a bizarre premise and its disturbing consequences or briefly mention it to show how zany your setting is and let the reader use their imagination.
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There's a really cruel irony in designing a species specifically so that they will mature and die throughout the course of a television show while travelling to a destination they've never known without any possibility of reaching it - and then having the showrunner decide that continuity is for cowards and it's time for that character to literally disappear so they can be replaced with a sexy cyborg.
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Frog Act posted:like how does Harry Kim not feel incredibly weird about banging Kes’s one year old daughter whom he has known since she was a baby, and is also his best friends daughter He'd already been rejected by all the adult crewmembers. His only hope to bang was to wait for one of the kids born on the ship to grow up. He couldn't compete with Paris or Chakotay, but he has a real chance of convincing some young lady with extremely limited prospects that he's cooler than Icheb.
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kes was terrible and seven was one of the few good characters on the show, mostly by default. ryan joined late enough that dodged the hell slog which ruined most of the characters and killed the souls of the cast and writers.
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May 5, 2020 03:44
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I’m watching Star Trek insurrection for the first time and I’ll be honest. This movie whips rear end
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it's motherfuckin bull poo poo that captane picard did a tresspass on celris 3, killing peoplnes there, and then when he was Caught doing extrajudicial naughty, spared by doing an invassion and make threat on ships doing no pewpews, in they own McAllister C-5 Nebula. it was in their space, doin no pewpews. federation jsut used Gun it's a travesty
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May 5, 2020 04:12
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Record store employee: Welcome to Suncoast, anything you are looking for? Pakled: We are looking for things that make us go hmmm
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Record store employee: Welcome to Suncoast, anything you are looking for? lol
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Ok movies over now. The awesome tonal whiplash of scenes where river gets shaved in a tub followed by watching an alien get his face stapled on to his skull was delightful. 8/10 quality trek movie.
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Pick posted:it's motherfuckin bull poo poo that captane picard did a tresspass on celris 3, killing peoplnes there, and then when he was Caught doing extrajudicial naughty, spared by doing an invassion and make threat on ships doing no pewpews, in they own McAllister C-5 Nebula. it was in their space, doin no pewpews. federation jsut used Gun it's a travesty
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Only actual good Start Trek is Inner Light everything else sucks in some way
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Only actual good Start Trek is Inner Light everything else sucks in some way year of hell and endgame as companion pieces no, messing with spacetime continuum isnt actually too dangerous, you just sucked at it
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May 5, 2020 05:43
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what's your issue with remember me
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don't answer, i immediately remembered it had the traveller in it.
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May 5, 2020 05:50
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year of hell: it is very bad to try to use time travel to pursue a war + personal vendetta endgame: what if we use time travel to pursue a war + personal vendetta
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May 5, 2020 05:54
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it's actually against the law to dislike A Piece of the Action, sorry you suck and are going to jail
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Do not pass Gorn, do not collect 200 quatloos
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Pick posted:it's actually against the law to dislike A Piece of the Action, sorry you suck and are going to
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there are no bad episodes of tos. there are good episodes, goofy episodes, and goofy good episodes (these are the best)
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sweet geek swag posted:A more accurate read is that section 31 is probably just 10-20 people who have wormed their way into critical but not necessarily high ranking positions throughout Starfleet.
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Pick posted:But nobody knows garak's name! max his name is max that's his name
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:there are no bad episodes of tos. there are good episodes, goofy episodes, and goofy good episodes (these are the best)
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uhhh excuse me i have a question what does a shapeshifter need with a toilet
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need? nothing. want? more than you could ever imagine.
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