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https://twitter.com/_theghettomonk/status/1259134830102450181?s=20
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May 9, 2020 22:24
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May 9, 2020 22:26
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lmao
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May 9, 2020 22:27
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i throw carts down a hill so i can collect them later and sell it right back to the store.
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May 9, 2020 22:28
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This is straight out of that AI meme generator
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May 9, 2020 22:31
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Do you not have staging areas in car parks that you can put carts in? That way the cart is not likely to get in the way of cars but is also going to require someone to be employed to collect them.
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May 9, 2020 22:50
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Inceltown posted:Do you not have staging areas in car parks that you can put carts in? That way the cart is not likely to get in the way of cars but is also going to require someone to be employed to collect them. They probably do, but people just leave them where they parked anyways. This will happen even in spaces that are on either side of the little corral for them. Like, people just refuse to use them. And the people who do normally leave it a jumbled mess without understanding how to fix it so you can actually fit the things in there.
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May 9, 2020 22:58
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Inceltown posted:Do you not have staging areas in car parks that you can put carts in? That way the cart is not likely to get in the way of cars but is also going to require someone to be employed to collect them. Yeah that's what this entire argument is about. Putting the cart away in one of those staging areas, or just leaving it wherever in the parking lot.
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May 9, 2020 23:05
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:not sure how doing free labor for a private company, which is used to replace workers, is Morally Correct. Are you loving making GBS threads me The US is the only country that employs slaves to return shopping carts because people are too lovely to do it themselves. In all functional societies, the job of a "shopping cart return person" is non-existent. Same for bagging boys etc. At most they have somebody move the carts few times a day if they pile up at one spot, which takes like five minutes, instead of employing full time cart shuffling staff. steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 23:28 on May 9, 2020 |
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May 9, 2020 23:24
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steinrokkan posted:Are you loving making GBS threads me In other words, I love to be a lovely human who depends on the demeaning labour of the underclass to do my chores and defend my actions by pseudo-woke "I won't do the work corporations should do for me (by forcing a slave to do it instead of me)"
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May 9, 2020 23:26
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People who clean their own shoes are responsible for poverty among those who used to be able to make some money on shoe-shining. Same for the people who cook for themselves. Stop stealing jobs from the poor, you fuckers! Every meal you cook at home is a meal you steal from dozens of workers from waiters and chefs to dishwashers and valets.
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May 9, 2020 23:31
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Paladinus posted:People who clean their own shoes are responsible for poverty among those who used to be able to make some money on shoe-shining. Same for the people who cook for themselves. Stop stealing jobs from the poor, you fuckers! Every meal you cook at home is a meal you steal from dozens of workers from waiters and chefs to dishwashers and valets. The sad thing is, I've actually heard that argument about cooking for yourself used unironically on more than one occasion.
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May 9, 2020 23:34
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Where I grew up the thing to do was to huck the carts into a drainage culvert to join the hundreds already in there, ensuring that the shopping cart factory workers continue to have jobs.
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May 9, 2020 23:34
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Yeah I'm a Socialist-Zorgist
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May 10, 2020 00:06
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"So how do you support your fellow workers?" "I dump my shopping carts in the furthest corner of the parking lot" 
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May 10, 2020 00:14
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This discussion reminded me of this. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html Richard Stallman posted:In addition, we’re facing the threat of massive unemployment due to some kind of digital technology. One of these areas of unemployment of course is driverless vehicles. There are also the self-checkout machines in some supermarkets and drugstores. When I go in and out of those stores, I shout to the people by those machines, If you use these machines, you’re putting other people out of work. When I recognized that, I decided I wouldn’t use them. I’d always go to the human sales agent and help them stay employed.
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May 10, 2020 00:19
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STALL MAN
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May 10, 2020 00:22
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Doing socialism by making the delivery guy come back to give me the 2 liter of Diet Pepsi I ordered because he gave me Diet Sprite the first time
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May 10, 2020 00:24
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gently caress SPRITE
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May 10, 2020 00:25
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Socialism can only work in a society that is fully subservient to corporations, because corporations create jobs, and socialism = jobs
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May 10, 2020 00:27
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Goon Boots posted:This discussion reminded me of this. The revolution will fail because leftists will be too busy exorcising years of built-up fury by shooting gormless liberal scum and forget to keep the reactionaries from getting their mitts on the nukes.
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May 10, 2020 00:30
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steinrokkan posted:Socialism can only work in a society that is fully subservient to corporations, because corporations create jobs, and socialism = jobs yeah that was what i was saying
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May 10, 2020 00:32
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Paladinus posted:People who clean their own shoes are responsible for poverty among those who used to be able to make some money on shoe-shining. Same for the people who cook for themselves. Stop stealing jobs from the poor, you fuckers! Every meal you cook at home is a meal you steal from dozens of workers from waiters and chefs to dishwashers and valets. if you cant see a difference between this and say, self checkout aisles, you are a moron
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May 10, 2020 00:33
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Excuse me? I'd like to speak to the shopping cart manager.
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May 10, 2020 00:39
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'I value your labor" written in poo poo on the bathroom walls
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May 10, 2020 00:40
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:if you cant see a difference between this and say, self checkout aisles, you are a moron Oh no, don't think you can effortlessly glide from attacking cart return spaces to attacking self-checkout. You can't just move to a safe position after being mocked for your previous position and act like you've been arguing about the same thing the whole time.
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May 10, 2020 00:40
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Avynte posted:'I value your labor" written in poo poo on the bathroom walls lmao
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May 10, 2020 00:40
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Avynte posted:'I value your labor" written in poo poo on the bathroom walls
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May 10, 2020 00:41
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Gripweed posted:Oh no, don't think you can effortlessly glide from attacking cart return spaces to attacking self-checkout. You can't just move to a safe position after being mocked for your previous position and act like you've been arguing about the same thing the whole time. i already said the shopping cart poo poo is just an insignificant and minor example of the trend of replacing paid labor by putting it on the customer. i do not think intentionally being an rear end in a top hat to create work is a good thing or something stupid. Sheng-Ji Yang posted:in a socialist society, absolutely. in a capitalist society, having less workers is more profit going to the capitalists, higher unemployment, lower wages and thats it. and yes, this works because for the individual customer it is not a large amount of labor, but over the course of the day and thousands of customers it actually is a substantial amount that could employ workers. instead the customers are doing free labor for the company, and paying them for the privilege.
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May 10, 2020 00:45
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Again, the fact that these jobs only exist in one country in the whole wide world, and no other country has ever shown any interest in (re)introducing them strongly condemns your argument that we need to maintain the shittiest jobs in existence in order to "protect workers". Instead you come off as an rear end in a top hat who likes to be waited on by poor wage slave.
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May 10, 2020 00:48
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:if you cant see a difference between this and say, self checkout aisles, you are a moron Next time at a McDonald's drive-through, I'll make sure I have a human being take my order, as I struggle to make my choice between the great baconator and and fake meat McGee because I don't remember the names of these sandwiches and the menu is too long, and I start to panic, and poo poo my pants, instead of pressing a couple of buttons. Because socialism.
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May 10, 2020 00:49
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And the longer morons subscribe to the idea that "these jobs are necessary to maintain society", the longer corporations will keep abusing them, and the longer it will take for an action to arise to eradicate them and to fight for better jobs.
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May 10, 2020 00:50
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Paladinus posted:Next time at a McDonald's drive-through, I'll make sure I have a human being take my order, as I struggle to make my choice between the great baconator and and fake meat McGee because I don't remember the names of these sandwiches and the menu is too long, and I start to panic, and poo poo my pants, instead of pressing a couple of buttons. Because socialism. I don't know about McDonalds, but in retail it's common that they use self-checkouts to overload workers by assigning one poor soul to oversee potentially dozens of stations at once. I guess it works fine in fast food where customers only place orders instead of trying to actually check out their groceries.
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May 10, 2020 00:51
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Avynte posted:'I value your labor" written in poo poo on the bathroom walls Gripweed posted:Socialist-Zorgist
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May 10, 2020 00:51
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steinrokkan posted:Again, the fact that these jobs only exist in one country in the whole wide world, and no other country has ever shown any interest in (re)introducing them strongly condemns your argument that we need to maintain the shittiest jobs in existence in order to "protect workers". Instead you come off as an rear end in a top hat who likes to be waited on by poor wage slave. it happens in america because we have a dumb car culture and huge dumb parking lots for huge dumb stores. obviously ideally we would get rid of these worthless jobs in a just society where everyone is guaranteed a standard of living regardless of their job. but in our terrible capitalist society it is better for a company to have to pay people for their labor than not, and it is just a very small part of a bad trend.
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May 10, 2020 00:53
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It's not even a reduction of labor! No grocery store ever had round the clock cart snatchers stationed in the parking lot to immediately grab unattended carts. They always periodically sent people out to collect the carts. It's just that it's easier to collect the carts if people deposit the carts in the cart collection spaces.
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May 10, 2020 00:55
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Yeah, how many countries even hyave these huge mega-markets instead of a bunch of smaller ones?
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May 10, 2020 00:55
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Avynte posted:'I value your labor" written in poo poo on the bathroom walls lol steinrokkan posted:Are you loving making GBS threads me its not a full time position anywhere its just one part of a bagboy's job. i used to do it in high school, back when i was even younger than i am now
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May 10, 2020 00:56
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cumshitter posted:lol Well, bagboys also don't exist elsewhere... so it's two pointless busywork jobs rolled into one.
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May 10, 2020 00:57
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I fundamentally disagree with the idea that if we abolished the lowest ranking, most pointless jobs, it would cause unemployment because companies wouldn't hire those people anymore. Capitalism is adverse to leaving too much excess labor unutilized, they would find other outlets. Those new jobs wouldn't be great either, but still probably better. Then again, I come from a country where the idea of having supermarket greeters is literally incomprehensible and if you told people it's a job that exists, they would stare at you blankly, unable to compute what you were saying. steinrokkan has issued a correction as of 01:04 on May 10, 2020 |
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May 10, 2020 01:01
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