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CommissarMega posted:I actually think the version of Two-Face here is much better than what you usually get with him- apart from the un-demonization of mental instability (for lack of a better phrase), there's a lot more of the whole 'two sides of the same coin' theme going on (again, for lack of a better phrase). This Harvey Dent was always a scumbag, always Two-Face, and he just presented his douchiness in different ways- even as a regular DA he was a smarmy politician, and all the acid did was allow himself to express himself more openly. What's really interesting about Dr. Jekyll is that at the very beginning of the story, Jekyll briefly, vaguely recalls his youth and implies he had some wild years. Arguably, Jekyll is the fake person that he put on as he got older while Hyde is the real person, which is why Jekyll eventually disappears.
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Elfface posted:As we can see, Kite Man is robbing the 1% of trinkets, and not even hurting anyone. Ivy is fighting to protect plant life from the excesses of humanity. They're both heroes working outside of a corrupt system. Yeah, I think that in this day and age, Ivy is far more of a superhero than Batman is. I'm not even kidding in the slightest; if Ivy was real, I'd definitely donate to her GoFundMe. Poison Ivy TV series/video game/movie(s) when? Mr. Fowl posted:Arguably, Jekyll is the fake person that he put on as he got older while Hyde is the real person, which is why Jekyll eventually disappears. Exactly; all being Two-Face does is enable Harvey Dent to live the way he's always wanted to.
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May 11, 2020 04:28
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Dropping mental illness as the reason for being a villain and replacing it with just being a huge rear end in a top hat is the most positive change they could make for any and all Bat villains.
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Rhyno posted:Dropping mental illness as the reason for being a villain and replacing it with just being a huge rear end in a top hat is the most positive change they could make for any and all Bat villains. Also, I love that they kept Harley’s schizophrenia but instead of it being played for laughs or demons it’s just a way for her to help herself. Like, I would love to have actual, productive conversations with myself. That would be a rad superpower.
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Lechtansi posted:Also, I love that they kept Harley’s schizophrenia but instead of it being played for laughs or demons it’s just a way for her to help herself. Like, I would love to have actual, productive conversations with myself. That would be a rad superpower. I've done this in a lot of different ways over the years, and it's cathartic but it's also tempting to use it as a replacement for actual progress. Like I'll talk myself through an imagining of a difficult conversation, which helps, but then I'll either use that as an excuse to avoid the actual conversation or get flustered when it goes off the script in my head.
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"I'm not a supervillain, I identify as an ecoterrorist" is one of my favorite lines from the whole series from any character.
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Randaconda posted:This may have changed, but for the longest time, they tried to keep the Joker's origin multiple choice. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 08:31
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If the ventriloquist does show up I hope it's like he was in Gotham - he spend most of the series as the Penguins constantly bullied accountant, getting no respect and at one point getting shaken down by Bruce Wayne in a ski mask, just constant humiliation - then during the fall of Gotham he comes across a ventriloquist dummy and uses it to vent his frustrations by externalising them with a brilliant moment punctuated when halfway through a big teardown of the Penguin the voice stops being the one he's doing for the puppet as he gains the confidence to finally tell the penguin himself to gently caress off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g6__Vk1MI0 Edit: wrong clip BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 08:52 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 08:47
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mllaneza posted:"I'm not a supervillain, I identify as an ecoterrorist" is one of my favorite lines from the whole series from any character. A shame that Captain Condiment didn't declare himself a gastroterrorist to piss Ivy off.
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Rhyno posted:Alan Tudyk could really give Mark Hamill a run for his money in the "best Joker voice" category if he gets to do this long term. My immediate reaction was thinking this is a sacrilegious opinion, but you might be right. Hamill nailed the insanity of Joker and will always have the creepiest laugh, but Tudyk's range gives him a lot more to play with when he expresses genuine mirth and then cold malevolence. Also, S2E6 might be the best straight-played episode of a DC property in the last decade.
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Tudyk is also not playing the same kind of Joker. Like I said above, his Joker is just an enormous rear end in a top hat.
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BioEnchanted posted:If the ventriloquist does show up I hope it's like he was in Gotham - he spend most of the series as the Penguins constantly bullied accountant, getting no respect and at one point getting shaken down by Bruce Wayne in a ski mask, just constant humiliation - then during the fall of Gotham he comes across a ventriloquist dummy and uses it to vent his frustrations by externalising them with a brilliant moment punctuated when halfway through a big teardown of the Penguin the voice stops being the one he's doing for the puppet as he gains the confidence to finally tell the penguin himself to gently caress off. I'm surprised Penguin did his best not to kill the guy.
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That version of Penguin gets very attached to people he likes. He really wanted Arthur back, even if he wouldn't treat him any differently. He also is literally in love with Edward Nigma, which is something that Nigma uses to manipulate him when he realises what's going on there. Nigma totally sheds any emotional connections and becomes pure logic when he goes Riddler, it's kind of a Disassociation. There's Eddie Nigma, nice, confused, riddle obsessed but relatively harmless, then there is The Riddler, who is constantly trying to prove how much smarter he is that everyone else including his other self. I also like that from the start, his Riddles show he's a little off. There is a logic to them but it's broken logic, like when he sends a love note to a colleague in the form of a cupcake with a bullet embedded in it. She calls him out about it being creepy and threatening and he has to clarify - "It's a riddle... The cupcake is sweet, the bullet is deadly... a beautiful woman's a dangerous thing.  "It actually reminds me of Arkham Knight's riddler who's logic is completely broken and only makes sense to himself - when Batman calls him out on his final riddle (aka the boss fight with colour coded robots) being impossible for him to solve on his own, the Riddler actually tells you the intended solution in a rant - "Look, If you couldn't hack the firmware, reverse engineer the programming and disable the electric shock system, then MAYBE you aren't as smart as you think you are?" It brings to mind that some of his outbursts like "Oh, come on a CHILD could have solved that faster!" aren't just hubris or him making fun of you, he genuinely has lost all sense of reason and perspective and thinks that his riddles are easy enough to not need gadgets. BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 17:50 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 17:45
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Bruceski posted:I've done this in a lot of different ways over the years, and it's cathartic but it's also tempting to use it as a replacement for actual progress. Like I'll talk myself through an imagining of a difficult conversation, which helps, but then I'll either use that as an excuse to avoid the actual conversation or get flustered when it goes off the script in my head. Right, conversations with yourself are super helpful. And conversations with other people are super helpful, in a completely different way. I'm just saying it would be neat to be able to do both just by looking at a photo of myself.
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Finally getting around to Titans season 2. Glad they dealt with the Trigon thing quickly, but we did get him be a crazy demon before the end though. Though I honestly thought the changed he actor for Raven because in the time between filming she aged noticeably. Also in some shots the wigs look really, really bad. Beastboy in particular. Also chyron : San Fransisco No, that's Toronto chyron : Chicago No this is also Toronto. Oh and I still hate Hawk and Dove. God they suck, and they're boring and the actors are wooden. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 07:26 on May 12, 2020 |
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May 12, 2020 07:23
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You can't top the Hamill joker tho this guy was a better pick for the show. Hamill joker would almost be too likable. Also I like that this episode didn't gently caress around with them being skeptical about weather hes the joker or not... Even psycho at the end. Motherfucker fucked around with this message at 09:31 on May 12, 2020 |
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I think the villain trying to go straight after years of psychotic behaviour thing worked really well in Batman and Harley Quinn because Nightwing finds her after she falls off the map (she's released for good behavour but hasn't been seen by her parole officer in months) working in a sleazy super-hero themed restaurant in a sexed up waitress version of her old costume, and when Nightwing takes that to mean she hasn't changed, she shows him a stack of rejection letters from psychiatric jobs she tried for because no one wants to risk hiring someone who used to be a crazy supervillain. The waitress gig is the best she can get. It's a fun story in general because her "Crazy" tends to make her more practical than Batman at times simply because she's drawing simpler connections to make brute force solutions. Also her and Nightwing have some fun banter, although there is a weird bit where they gently caress early on because Harley wants to let off some steam. She's very clear that it's never gonna be more than a one night stand. There are just some cute moments when they are On Mission and Harley says something that gets a chuckle out of Nightwing.
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BioEnchanted posted:I think the villain trying to go straight after years of psychotic behaviour thing worked really well in Batman and Harley Quinn because Nightwing finds her after she falls off the map (she's released for good behavour but hasn't been seen by her parole officer in months) working in a sleazy super-hero themed restaurant in a sexed up waitress version of her old costume, and when Nightwing takes that to mean she hasn't changed, she shows him a stack of rejection letters from psychiatric jobs she tried for because no one wants to risk hiring someone who used to be a crazy supervillain. The waitress gig is the best she can get. It's a fun story in general because her "Crazy" tends to make her more practical than Batman at times simply because she's drawing simpler connections to make brute force solutions. Also her and Nightwing have some fun banter, although there is a weird bit where they gently caress early on because Harley wants to let off some steam. She's very clear that it's never gonna be more than a one night stand. There are just some cute moments when they are On Mission and Harley says something that gets a chuckle out of Nightwing. That one also has the caveat in that it's basically the DCAU versions of those characters and Harley, in that and in the pre-52 canon, was more or less sane save for Bonnie and Clyde type of relationship with the Joker. No dunking in chemicals creating semi-theraputic hallucinations and psychotic behavior, just lovestruck obsession and a return to sanity.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I'm assuming you're talking about Rose Wilson/Ravager? Yup, and I completely forgot about Ravager.
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drat, all this talk of Titans makes me realize that the show "in my memory" is way better than it actually was. Like, i loving loved Raven's character, but going back to rewatch i'm like, no thanks. And the whole first season plot of "small town girl discovers that shes the daughter of the dark lord and has to deal with the repercussions" is exactly my poo poo. To bad the actual implementation of that sucked. And gently caress everrrrrything about season 2. Dammit DC just give me a competently done Raven series.
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Lechtansi posted:drat, all this talk of Titans makes me realize that the show "in my memory" is way better than it actually was. Like, i loving loved Raven's character, but going back to rewatch i'm like, no thanks. And the whole first season plot of "small town girl discovers that shes the daughter of the dark lord and has to deal with the repercussions" is exactly my poo poo. To bad the actual implementation of that sucked. She features very prominently in Apokolips War, if you haven't seen it yet.
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Yea its annoying show she's barely in season 2 because it turns into the sad about Slaydes son half way through and ugh. DC really wants to push Deathstroke, which is fine, I guess, but he's been in the Arrowverse, in the movies (briefly) and now this. Like I know he's the original Deadpool, but super grim assassin isn't going to go over as well as smart rear end talking cartoon guy. Making the season suddenly about him and his family is just, frustrating. Gotta say Ian Glenn as Bruce is pretty amazing casting through.
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My problem with Titans is that the cast feels really bloated but they keep adding more members.
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muscles like this! posted:My problem with Titans is that the cast feels really bloated but they keep adding more members. And its one of those shows where the writers clearly have no idea how to create drama without having their characters at each others throats constantly.
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Hahh what the gently caress with the end of the season of Titans. "This is prestige TV we can't just have a happen ending! We need to kill one of the characters randomly for DRAMA!"
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Because for some reason, the people writing and/or producing media still get 'mature' confused with 'grimdark/softcore porn'.
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CommissarMega posted:Because for some reason, the people writing and/or producing media still get 'mature' confused with 'grimdark/softcore porn'. Yea, it really does feel like bad stuff for the sake of bad stuff. It's not like say, the Joker showed up and killed Jason Todd, because uh, being killed by the Joker is part of his character. This just felt cheap.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, it really does feel like bad stuff for the sake of bad stuff. It's not like say, the Joker showed up and killed Jason Todd, because uh, being killed by the Joker is part of his character. This just felt cheap. It's more like that people running the titans don't know poo poo about making good TV.
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Lechtansi posted:It's more like that people running the titans don't know poo poo about making good TV.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea, it really does feel like bad stuff for the sake of bad stuff. It's not like say, the Joker showed up and killed Jason Todd, because uh, being killed by the Joker is part of his character. This just felt cheap. It reminds me of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina although I only saw the first season, where the grimdark poo poo is done out of the character's hubris and they end up regretting it in some way, like when in a nightmare-becoming-reality scenario Zelda, who is the most into the sacrifice and cannibalism stuff of the characters we know, is expecting Satan for dinner and gets competitive with Hilda trying to win his affection, so tries to win his favour by roasting one a child from his congregation (again none of this actually happens IRL they are in a hallucination feeding off their fears) - it backfires because Satan's like "Our numbers are dwindling already, killing one of us was a dumb move!" and ends up loving Hilda's vegetable pie to everyone's surprise, and when Zelda kills her again the magic she uses to resurrect her afterwards fails and she's stuck facing the fact that she's done something irreversible, because as part of her character's hubris she keeps killing Hilda and resurrecting her whenever she does something that Zelda deems stupid. Also every time Sabrina tries to do something witchy it backfires horribly because she tries to cheat in some way and the afterlife doesn't like that.
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Lechtansi posted:It's more like that people running the titans don't know poo poo about making good TV. Isn't it the same showrunners that are doing Doom Patrol though? That show is awesome
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Everyone on Titans is terrifyingly pretty. Like, Brenton Twaites is so handsome I think he was created in a lab. And don't even get me started on Anna Diop.
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The Doom Patrol Facebook page is announcing that season 2 is coming to HBO Now on 6/25.. No other details but I'd hope we get some trailers or something..
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Binary Badger posted:The Doom Patrol Facebook page is announcing that season 2 is coming to HBO Now on 6/25.. One assumes the big bad this season is Candlemaker but I'm gonna really miss Mr. Nobody.
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Captain Aardvark posted:Isn't it the same showrunners that are doing Doom Patrol though? That show is awesome No they're different. Look it up.
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