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Anthony Davis would be a better 5 for that lineup and is also a better player
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Why is Kareem not on there at all
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May 11, 2020 18:20
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Metapod posted:Why is Kareem not on there at all
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May 11, 2020 18:21
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Dray has probably been the most valuable playoff center for most of the 2010s but yeah for an 82 game regular season he's not close. Paul should also be the 2000s PG over Nash although these are always hard for guys who entire the league mid decade. For 90s I think Malone and Barkley have pretty similar peaks but Malone was good for the entire decade while Barkley was starting to fade pretty fast by like 96 or so. Metapod posted:Why is Kareem not on there at all Mashing the pre-80s into one group really fucks him because his best run was in the 70s but yeah even then he was better than Russell. MourningView fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 18:21
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Lockback posted:2000s not having KG or Dirk is rough, but it's hard to argue Shaq and Duncan. Duncan played center for most of his career. Shaq being there makes sense if it's about individual player peak season and not them over the decade. If it's the player over the decade, Duncan belongs there over Shaq. If it's about play over the whole decade and we rightfully put Duncan at center, Dirk rightfully goes in the PF slot. (Though some would argue KG.) Shaq was overall better throughout the 90s than the 00s. However, the early 00s could be considered some of his best years. If it's by peak season and not overall play in the decade, CP3 belongs on the list over Nash. However, if it's play over the decade, Nash belongs there over CP3. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 18:23
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Draymond over Anthony Davis is just flat out stupid
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May 11, 2020 18:35
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good list, AD is a fraud.
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May 11, 2020 18:38
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Love having a lineup of 4 hall of famers driving and dishing to an open Draymond Green at the 3 point line all game long
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May 11, 2020 18:39
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Lockback posted:2000s not having KG or Dirk is rough, but it's hard to argue Shaq and Duncan. The 2010 team would be based on running 80 Curry-Lebron high screens a game. People can barely guard Curry and Green + spacing - it would be impossible to stop Lebron on the 4-on-3. Which means Dray can't play because he can't shoot and would leave KD and Harden standing in the corners. This year's olympics would have been able to throw out a lineup of Curry Klay Kawhi KD Lebron If Klay/Kawhi/KD are ok with focusing and defense and hitting wide open 3's I don't see how anyone even competes with that team.
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May 11, 2020 18:47
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leaving both wilt and kareem off the pre 80s list for bill russell is a travesty
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also cp3 getting left off entirely is also pretty bad (but mostly a product of the way they constructed the lists) e: also also havlicek was the original chucker and elgin baylor was a 6’5 sf why are they both on the team
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May 11, 2020 18:49
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The 2010s list should probably be Cp3 Russ Lebron Kd Bosh E: 00s would switch kobe with wade and Timmy with kg personally but those are both good 80s and 90s look good could easily debate the 5 for both though. Pre 80s should absolutely have Kareem and dr j Metapod fucked around with this message at 19:00 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 18:52
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Pre-80s can't have Kareem because the center is definitely Wilt
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May 11, 2020 19:25
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Put CP or KG or Dirk in Kobe's spot
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May 11, 2020 20:17
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TIL Fox News' streaming service just released a dumb documentary. "It’s about Jeff Hornacek. Defending Michael Jordan...The show lasts for a little more than 16 minutes and is hosted by Jeff’s daughter, Abby Hornacek" https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/5/11/21252546/guarding-jordan-is-just-about-failing-to-guard-michael-jordan
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May 11, 2020 20:18
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1259833152803127296 I don't know who this guy is but that's pretty cool. I am surprised the G-League is a better fit than playing in Europe or Asia professionally for a year but its cool that G-League is competing pretty strongly for prospects.
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May 11, 2020 20:53
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Lockback posted:KD twitter fighting with randos is way healthier than just about anything Jordan did, imo. Persian baklava with rosewater/pistachios ftw
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Lockback posted:2000s not having KG or Dirk is rough, but it's hard to argue Shaq and Duncan. Dwight had the highest peak in the 2010s for a 5 No Kareem or Wilt pre 80s is unconscionable Wade was better than Kobe in the 2000s You could quibble with a lot of others (90s pf and c, no dirk or CP3) but they’re defensible
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May 11, 2020 21:03
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DeimosRising posted:Dwight had the highest peak in the 2010s for a 5 I'm of the opinion that Kobe is a bit overrated but no way was Wade better throughout the 00s than Kobe. Kobe had a better peak and was better in more seasons throughout the decade.
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May 11, 2020 21:19
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DeimosRising posted:Dwight had the highest peak in the 2010s for a 5 Dwight only had a couple of his truly great years in the 2010s though and then he was a shell of himself. His peak straddled the 00s and 10s so he's one of the guys who gets screwed when you try to make an all decade team.
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May 11, 2020 21:30
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DeimosRising posted:Dwight had the highest peak in the 2010s for a 5 yeah hakeem is pretty much The Center of the 90s and i'd probably put him above anyone else (even though i think david robinson was ahead of his time and gets unfairly overlooked because hakeem cooked him in 95) but barkley over karl malone is pretty bad the more i look at the list the less i like it
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May 11, 2020 21:31
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All the Pro D-League signed people are going to be on 1 team right? That team trains together and plays 10 or so games vs regular D-League teams? It would be cool if they could get enough for at least 2 squads. Get some rivalry stuff going vs each squad. Air the games. I feel like in the future we are going to get some banana boat squads who will super team it up in Free Agency because they ran in D-League Pro together. Will be great to watch evolve.
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May 11, 2020 21:32
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Athanatos posted:All the Pro D-League signed people are going to be on 1 team right? Yeah it's just the one team. They've said they'd like to grow it to a separate division within the g-league but we'll see. Probably depends on how well it works and when they can finally kill the one and done rule. Of the current group Green is the only one who was really considered a lottery type prospect but they're still chasing some other big names and it will probably grow if he winds up doing well.
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May 11, 2020 21:39
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MourningView posted:Dwight only had a couple of his truly great years in the 2010s though and then he was a shell of himself. His peak straddled the 00s and 10s so he's one of the guys who gets screwed when you try to make an all decade team. Yeah it’s tough for those guys for sure. Obviously this kind of stuff is always going to turn on what you value/how you conceptualize the question. I would take 2010-12 Dwight over any of the other centers this decade, but certainly you could argue that his poor back half of the decade means other guys accomplished more overall.
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May 11, 2020 21:43
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Declan MacManus posted:leaving both wilt and kareem off the pre 80s list for bill russell is a travesty Put both of them there, get KAJ to play PF or something.
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I was thinking about suggesting that maybe Boogie's the center of the 2010s, but basketball reference says he only has about 80 more minutes than AD which is wild to me, but I guess the past couple of seasons really added up even with being drafted 2 years earlier
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May 11, 2020 22:02
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Boogie was good but winning has to count for at least a little
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morestuff posted:Boogie was good but winning has to count for at least a little Look are we really going to hold it against the guy that he played in the Western Conference and had Kosta Koufos, Rajon Rondo, and Marco as his one big free agency acquisition help
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I would say that Gobert is the center of the 2010s, but I guess he's another victim of the "peak spread across two decades" thing, because you can't factor in his ability to Shut Down The Entire League
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Do any non-Celtics fans actually believe Bill Russell was better than Wilt?
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Metapod posted:Why is Kareem not on there at all also wilt??? i mean wow e: oh i'm already late to ths. see ya next week everyone chunkles fucked around with this message at 22:34 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 22:27
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Do any non-Celtics fans actually believe Bill Russell was better than Wilt? Most people, probably? If you mostly talk about sports somewhere like here it's easy to forget how much most fans care about rings and head to head wins. And it was definitely the opinion of the majority people at the time.
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Metapod posted:Why is Kareem not on there at all Because Kareem is a whiny little punk plus 36 year old Wilt outplayed him so there's no universe where you take a soft no defense (see airplane) center over the most athletic big man of all time.
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May 11, 2020 22:50
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Buddy if you think that about kareem I have some things to tell you about wilt lol
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WhyteRyce posted:Look are we really going to hold it against the guy that he played in the Western Conference and had Kosta Koufos, Rajon Rondo, and Marco as his one big free agency acquisition help A little
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xbilkis posted:I would say that Gobert is the center of the 2010s, but I guess he's another victim of the "peak spread across two decades" thing, because you can't factor in his ability to Shut Down The Entire League peak spread across the entire team
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May 11, 2020 22:56
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R.D. Mangles posted:peak spread across the entire team lmao
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morestuff posted:Boogie was good but winning has to count for at least a little Then why are some people going to bat for AD?
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One year later, this article was very on the nose:Dave Feschuk posted:It was a snapshot of Toronto basketball history when the ceiling was assumed to be unlimited, the prosperity seemingly perennial. https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/opinion/2019/05/11/raptors-know-chances-like-game-7-dont-come-around-often.html
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Kibner posted:Then why are some people going to bat for AD? I mean just setting aside the fact that Davis is clearly better he's also played four times as many playoff minutes
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