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Dixville posted:See, this was true for me... until it wasn't. I did so good for a few years and felt good about my body and I was in the best shape of my life. Then I graduated from school and the stress of work and the huge change in my routine caused me to go back to my old ways of eating fast food and binging to relief my stress. Obviously I should have found a healthier way to cope, but it was just so much easier to just stuff my face then bask in the afterglow. I guess I could have picked a worse or more self destructive coping mechanism. But once the bad habits get entrenched again, it's hard to get out of them. My problem was becoming financially comfortable and going on repeated vacations where each one threw on 8lbs or whatever. I’d gain 8 and lose four, gain 8 lose 4, repeat etc. Working like crazy helped me keep weight off. No time to eat.
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Bum the Sad posted:Even having a completely shut down thyroid only contributes like 8lbs of weight gain. Most of the medication induced weight gain is just appetite stimulation. Eh 8 would be a nice lower threshold for many and it still sucks. poo poo just takes time to balance out. There is also gaining weight on meds that cause such bad side effects, eating and keeping food down felt near impossible. Hate to get all About Me Projection poo poo but one did this to me, it sucked a ton god drat, and I got off it pretty quickly but shedding didnt happen till at least a month off it. Another, same story but took a bit longer. Anyway dumb oversharimg tmi, doing fine now, quarantine has been good in that way despite all else, but drat if the "sampling" period of meds years ago didnt blow and I will always extend that kindness/consideration to people struggling unless a reason is given not to.
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May 13, 2020 03:41
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Dixville posted:I'm on vyvanse and I'm still fat (5'3" just under 200 lbs) Get actual Dexedrine. It suppresses appetites far better than vyvanse. It’s also cheaper.
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May 13, 2020 05:43
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Is there any topic other than weight loss upon which everyone swears they have the answers, coupled with a billion dollar industry peddling solutions, and another billion dollar industry (junk food) researching how to hack the human tongue and get people addicted to weight gaining food? I think it's a unique shitstorm. And here's my piss into the hurricane: I think there's 3 things you need in order to lose big weight (which I have done twice): 1. The Spark - A serious paradigm shift in your mind. Whether you can't bare moving up another clothes size, or you get teased to breaking point, or the test results scare you, or you can't get laid or whatever it is. The Spark is the difference between *wishing* you were less fat, and being *determined* to be less fat. I should vs I will. Being pissed off, boiling mad at your situation. Not just your every day "I'll start a new diet next week" or "this is my last big bag of chips dude I'm serious lol". A humbling. An ego death. A fire inside. The Spark will help you for a week, maximum. 2. The nuts and bolts of weight loss, which you can learn in 30mins, or get all the details in 2hrs. W+W will have a sticky with this stuff. Calories In, Calories Out. How many you need, how many are in your meals, how to get away with a chocolate bar or bottle of wine and still ending the week a pound or two down. This stuff is worth half an hour of your time while you wait for The Spark to come, and once it does come, this will get your first 20-30lbs lost and keep you motivated and feeling loving incredible. Thought you were just A Fat Person? Not anymore! Change is not only possible, but happening day by day and nothing can stop you now! You even *want* to go for a walk! Pushups are something you *want* to try! 3. Acknowledging mental demons. After you lose 30lbs or so, and you feel on top of the world, invincible, sexy, powerful, godlike, that's when your subconscious feels safe enough to trickle some terror into you. Don't worry! This won't happen until your diet is a cinch to adhere to and you actually *enjoy* some form of exercise. But it's coming. You weren't gobbling all that junk and chugging all that booze for nothing. It kept the demons quiet. Kept them pacified. That thing that happened to you? You know... *that* thing. Or, more likely, those problems your parents had when you were young. That stuff that's such a long time ago! I know about it, dude! Why would that even bother me? I'm fucken 40! I know it's really common. Who cares, right? lol? lol??? Or maybe it's the stuff that didn't happen to you? Families only like each other on tv, and tv is pretend! Sure my dad never once wrote in a birthday card, but he paid for everything and that's love, right? The little kid inside you is still scared and needs protection. The little kid inside yourself that you haven't spoken to in decades is still there and is still afraid and now the monsters are back because the chips and chocolate and bourbon went away. That's the tough point, and it only comes when you're *just* strong enough to break through it. Check out My 600lb Life, too. Those fat fucks have bigger problems than you and most of them do amazing work in a year or two. Watch an episode a day for a couple of weeks and your spark might come.
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meat no potatoes posted:Is there any topic other than weight loss upon which everyone swears they have the answers, coupled with a billion dollar industry peddling solutions, and another billion dollar industry (junk food) researching how to hack the human tongue and get people addicted to weight gaining food? I think it's a unique shitstorm. Holy poo poo, YAS QUEEN PREACH meat no potatoes posted:3. Acknowledging mental demons. After you lose 30lbs or so, and you feel on top of the world, invincible, sexy, powerful, godlike, that's when your subconscious feels safe enough to trickle some terror into you. Don't worry! This won't happen until your diet is a cinch to adhere to and you actually *enjoy* some form of exercise. But it's coming. You weren't gobbling all that junk and chugging all that booze for nothing. It kept the demons quiet. Kept them pacified. That thing that happened to you? You know... *that* thing. Or, more likely, those problems your parents had when you were young. That stuff that's such a long time ago! I know about it, dude! Why would that even bother me? I'm fucken 40! I know it's really common. Who cares, right? lol? lol??? Or maybe it's the stuff that didn't happen to you? Families only like each other on tv, and tv is pretend! Sure my dad never once wrote in a birthday card, but he paid for everything and that's love, right? The little kid inside you is still scared and needs protection. The little kid inside yourself that you haven't spoken to in decades is still there and is still afraid and now the monsters are back because the chips and chocolate and bourbon went away. That's the tough point, and it only comes when you're *just* strong enough to break through it.  for nailing me exactly 
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May 13, 2020 08:03
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My first thought (as well as a couple other goons it looks like) was if OP could get enough vitamins and such with this plan, but thinking about it I feel like slim fasts plus a multivitamin is probably more nutritionally complete than your average American diet anyways so why not. I know grown adults that pick around vegetables in their food so like if they’re not dead yet OP will probably be fine.
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May 13, 2020 08:24
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ArbitraryC posted:My first thought (as well as a couple other goons it looks like) was if OP could get enough vitamins and such with this plan, but thinking about it I feel like slim fasts plus a multivitamin is probably more nutritionally complete than your average American diet anyways so why not. I know grown adults that pick around vegetables in their food so like if they’re not dead yet OP will probably be fine. Pretty big protein deficit I would think
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May 13, 2020 08:28
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OP as others have mentioned you can easily lose weight doing this but the key to maintaining weight is knowing how much to eat at a given weight level. Any calorie calculator can tell you this but the key is to measure your food. You need to use a food scale when preparing your meals and for measuring servings. It's the only way to precisely measure what you're putting into your body. Some people can probably maintain weight intuitively but with today's hyper palatable food environment I've found that impossible. Consistent measuring is the only thing that works for me. Also some of the meal replacement diets (medifast) recommend a serving of a fat to ensure gallbladder health. You might consider eating a slice of cheese every day along with your shakes and also check in with a doctor.
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May 13, 2020 08:39
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4 pages in but whatever. 1 - stop eating sugar 2 - eat more veggies and seafood 3 - no processed foods 4 - no deep fried foods 5 - give yourself a cheat day every couple weeks 6 - try to walk more That's it. You'll lose weight doing this and aren't going to kill yourself doing it.
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May 13, 2020 09:01
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Dixville posted:Pretty big protein deficit I would think His protein deficit actually looks pretty dangerous. Regular slim fast and almond milk have minimal protein in them. He's getting about 12g of protein per day. He should be eating around 0.8g/kg of bodyweight at a minimum. He's going to cannibalize all his lean muscle and end up either extraordinarily skinny-fat or even end up developing Kwashiorkor. OP not only are you going to get the weird bloated-gut famine physique, but protein starvation like you're doing is going to damage your liver because you'll end up having a bunch of fat infiltrate it (even though you are dieting). You're also at risk for getting gout as you cannibalize your muscle too. You might have done okay for a week, but your life is going to suck and more and more, and hopefully this diet will break your spirit and stop you before you hurt yourself too much.
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May 13, 2020 09:38
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If you only adjust your diet and not your physical habits than your body will still be trash at 190. You can’t just moonwalk from fat to healthy, you can lose weight but you’ll still have a fat, unhealthy person’s circulatory, limbic, and respiratory systems. Excercise, is my point
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May 13, 2020 12:33
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Dong Quixote posted:His protein deficit actually looks pretty dangerous. Regular slim fast and almond milk have minimal protein in them. He's getting about 12g of protein per day. He should be eating around 0.8g/kg of bodyweight at a minimum. He's going to cannibalize all his lean muscle and end up either extraordinarily skinny-fat or even end up developing Kwashiorkor. At least whatever he does eat then is useful to his body. You’ll feel better too with you brain happily ketone adapted rather than desperately seeking that next sugar shake glucose spike.
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May 13, 2020 12:42
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meat no potatoes posted:Is there any topic other than weight loss upon which everyone swears they have the answers, coupled with a billion dollar industry peddling solutions, and another billion dollar industry (junk food) researching how to hack the human tongue and get people addicted to weight gaining food? I think it's a unique shitstorm. Financial services Higher education Personal transportation Personal electronics and consumer digital systems set up for data mining Food For profit healthcare The hard part is the most murderous are also the most useful if you navigate around the most antagonistic parts.
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May 13, 2020 15:21
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well, it sure is a really bad idea
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May 13, 2020 15:28
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It's been another day OP, what's your status? My cheese, protein shake, and cheap hotdog diet. I lost 1.2 pounds.
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May 13, 2020 16:23
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Maybe OP was hoping for old GBS 2.0 threadshitting content so he could go "Heh...GBS  "
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May 13, 2020 16:26
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de_dust posted:Get actual Dexedrine. It suppresses appetites far better than vyvanse. It’s also cheaper. Caffeine also works for a lot of people. Easier to get too. The problem is if i drink or take caffeine late in the day (when my cravings hit) then i stay up half the night
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May 13, 2020 16:31
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Edgar posted:It's been another day OP, what's your status? My cheese, protein shake, and cheap hotdog diet. I lost 1.2 pounds. 279.7 lbs
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May 13, 2020 21:27
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Dixville posted:
Yeah I can't function like that. My mentality is either I would rather have 0 slices than 1 or 2. It's either four slices or nothing. Because one or two is still gonna make me feel like a fat poo poo and if I'm eating two slices of pizza I might as well also polish off that jar of peanut butter in the pantry. I know it doesn't make sense but it's just the way my stupid rear end is.
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May 13, 2020 22:22
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:Yeah I can't function like that. My mentality is either I would rather have 0 slices than 1 or 2. It's either four slices or nothing. Because one or two is still gonna make me feel like a fat poo poo and if I'm eating two slices of pizza I might as well also polish off that jar of peanut butter in the pantry. No i get it totally. I have a lot of binging issues. I have felt better since i went on different psych meds but all it takes is to get back in the habit and it would come back
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May 13, 2020 22:50
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I sincerely hope you get your act together OP and the idea of practicing self control and restraint is noble but it doesn't have to be all or nothing. Its been established at this point that will power is like a muscle that you can develop so it may be that making incremental changes to your lifestyle would help you build enough fortitude that you could eat a piece of fish without being sent into a gluttonous tailspin. I know you mentioned that you don't want to exercise but you might find that if you make an earnest attempt at becoming more mobile (I will concede that 16 hr workdays are problematic) other areas of your life improve as well. There arent that many absolutes in life but most people acknowledge that being sedentary is a huge drain on mental health and overall brain function aside from the physical fallout.
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May 13, 2020 23:24
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The Glumslinger posted:Hey I lost 70 pounds through the magic of a good work out plan and eating less. I was always a very bad late night snacker, so my big adjustment was to stop buying so much poo poo at the grocery store, so I didn't have anything to snack on. OP did indeed stop buying poo poo at the grocery shop 
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May 13, 2020 23:24
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BhindiBhaji Boogie posted:I sincerely hope you get your act together OP and the idea of practicing self control and restraint is noble but it doesn't have to be all or nothing. Its been established at this point that will power is like a muscle that you can develop so it may be that making incremental changes to your lifestyle would help you build enough fortitude that you could eat a piece of fish without being sent into a gluttonous tailspin. I know you mentioned that you don't want to exercise but you might find that if you make an earnest attempt at becoming more mobile (I will concede that 16 hr workdays are problematic) other areas of your life improve as well. There arent that many absolutes in life but most people acknowledge that being sedentary is a huge drain on mental health and overall brain function aside from the physical fallout. Yeah even just walking for exercise is better than nothing
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May 13, 2020 23:49
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Dixville posted:Yeah even just walking for exercise is better than nothing this one time i was walking and I got hit by a taxi
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May 13, 2020 23:59
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Dixville posted:Yeah even just walking for exercise is better than nothing Jumping in place for 5 minutes is better then nothing. I heard a long time ago during a radio show that the host was talking about getting in shape and struggling his personal trainer told him that any attempt to exercise was progress, no matter how little. Just developing the habit to get up and do something to work up a sweat and raise your heart rate is essential, because once it becomes a habit you can build up on it.
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Some children saw Nasreddin coming from the vineyard with two baskets full of grapes loaded on his donkey. They gathered around him and asked him to give them a taste. Nasreddin picked up a bunch of grapes and gave each child a grape."You have so much, but you gave us so little," the children whined." There is no difference whether you have a basketful or a small piece. They all taste the same," Nasreddin answered.
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May 14, 2020 00:39
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I hiked the Appalachian Trail and you can eat as much as you want and anything you want for 5 months and still lose weight. I highly suggest it! The halfway point tradition is to eat a half gallon of ice cream. I did that in the morning then at night polished off a large pizza. Sure I had diarrhea for 10 days straight afterwards because I had absolutely destroyed my guts with dairy but eh
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Dixville posted:Yeah even just walking for exercise is better than nothing All the times in my life I've been "naturally thin" were when my lifestyle just included 3+ miles a day just in walking as a commute on top of w/e I was doing at school/work. I think a lot of adults think they got fat as they got older because "suddenly the food sticks to you" but outside of when you were literally still growing the amount of calories you burn by existing has probably not changed that much, it's just your life becomes substantially more sedentary.
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May 14, 2020 00:53
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Hey I lost 100 pounds in less than a year and it gave me loving kidney stones so watch out for that.
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I'm getting a bike and hopefully going to eventually commute with it. If not I'll at least be able to ride some trails in my area. I'm excited to get it!
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May 14, 2020 00:54
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Skratte posted:Hey I lost 100 pounds in less than a year and it gave me loving kidney stones so watch out for that. What's the correlation
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George H.W. oval office posted:I hiked the Appalachian Trail and you can eat as much as you want and anything you want for 5 months and still lose weight. I highly suggest it! The halfway point tradition is to eat a half gallon of ice cream. I did that in the morning then at night polished off a large pizza. Sure I had diarrhea for 10 days straight afterwards because I had absolutely destroyed my guts with dairy but eh As a New Englander I’ve always wanted to do this.
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Dixville posted:Yeah even just walking for exercise is better than nothing Walking fast up hills is drat good excercise. I walked fast in soft sand and did stairs, dropped 40 pounds total and kept it off and quit smoking !!!!! Same time period And I eat a ton, like I totally have that oral fixation thing. How did I do it? Veggies. You can literally eat vegetables all drat day and still lose weight. It's really helpful. Seems like it would be easier to eat a ton of veggies instead of what you are doing 
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May 14, 2020 01:37
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I love roasted vegetables
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May 14, 2020 01:43
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Dixville posted:I love roasted vegetables  Roasted sweet potatoes cabbage parsnips Sauteed leeks and baby bok choy 
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Spinz posted:
Put all that poo poo on a baking pan and put a whole chicken up on top and roast that poo poo. All that chicken goodness roasting them veggies. Still pretty healthy and keep you satisfied
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May 14, 2020 02:10
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I only eat my vegetables stewed soft
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Usually stewed greens msybe eith some dried fish
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