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Your weight loss plan isn’t nearly ambitious enough. I once lost 40 pounds in 2 weeks. I was eating like 3 times as much as you in a day, though. I’m apparently just really good at losing weight really fast, and bad at keeping it off with my all meat and cheese diet. I really need to try again, I just need to find either a fresh vegetable i actually like putting in my body, or a low-calorie salad dressing i actually like eating. That’ll give me a whole new food group. Fake edit: 40 pounds was fine in that short a period of time, i was really effin fat
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My keto food today seems to make lose my bad cravings for booze and mozzarella sticks that I had for yesterday. I'll see if I loose more weight. Inspiration OP!
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May 14, 2020 03:18
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Mozzarella sticks are keto enough imo
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May 14, 2020 03:21
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Instead of beer you can drink loe carb grsin alcohol
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May 14, 2020 03:22
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pentyne posted:Jumping in place for 5 minutes is better then nothing. Yeah the anything little is better than nothing applies to everything. To healthier eating, to excercise, to getting work and studies done, to improved life decisions. It's simple and easy to follow.
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May 14, 2020 04:04
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Sorry Op, I have this article here, from the NYT, no less! that confirms that it's completely impossible to lose weight once you get fat and you should instead be demanding that society adjusts itself to normalising your gigantic bulk: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/...mp_id=892213579 It even includes approving references to GBS favorite Ragen Chastain! The NYT posted:The core argument of the body positivity movement is that intentional weight loss doesn’t work and, in fact, causes more harm than good. In an effort to try to attain some impossible standard of beauty, the thinking goes, people end up with lasting emotional and physical damage that sabotages any efforts to lose weight and could even cause early death. 
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May 14, 2020 06:01
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I've lost ~35 pounds since the quarantine started only because I'm not eating fast food garbage morning noon and night, and thanks to being furloughed I actually have time to go for walks and play ring fit during the day so I'm getting more exercise than before which was none. I'm still a big fat rear end so that's not to say I won't start eating garbage again once the quarantine is over but man it's crazy how much easier it is when you prepare everything you eat and just don't buy bullshit at the grocery store. This might be the longest stretch of time in my entire life that I've almost exclusively eaten food I prepared for myself.
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May 14, 2020 06:34
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An article in the Economist about the Calorie: The Economist The Calorie is submitted as a discreet unit of energy and then people go all thermodynamics on calorie counts to do weightloss. The idea is sound, but too many assumptions are made of the Calorie. This article, there are others like it, picks apart bits of why that isn't accurate. They are a good approximation, and they could help you lose weight. They could also lead you astray where the suggestion is 400 calories of McDonald's and 400 calories of broccoli mean the same thing weightloss wise and they don't. Calories are calculated by burning poo poo in a lab and measuring energy output. You can get calorie counts for anything, even stuff humans obviously couldn't eat. Consider cooking. Cooked food is much easier for your body to break down and access. A cooked carrot will yield more available energy then an uncooked carrot of the same size. Consider also that processed foods are often homogenized in blenders. The same carrot, now cooked and blended offers much more exposed surface area to be attacked by your gut then an intact uncooked carrot. Their calorie counts would be the same. Additionally, the gut flora likely play a much larger role in health then previously thought. They probably provide you with a ton of novel nutrients and possibly play a role in your ability to maintain a healthy weight. Possibly why high fiber is so important. Much of the stuff you eat isn't just for you, but the things that live inside your gut. Remember, it's not just calories in - energy expended. You do sit on the toilet, and your excrement contains calories. Stuff that didn't get processed. If, through our hosed up food culture, our over processed food has made what we eat more bioavailable in our guts then you can functionally eat a similar volume of food but unintentionally take in more energy. Anyways, something to think about. Absolutely do count Calories to get an idea of how much you are eating. BUT, also eat as little processed foods as possible. Try to get a poo poo load of fiber to feed your microbial zoo. We don't know how much that affects us, and our weights yet. Possibly it means a lot
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May 14, 2020 07:41
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hell astro course posted:if you are not constantly slamming calories into your mouth, your body will go into starvation mode and you will become even fatter. This is science. 
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May 14, 2020 07:48
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On a long enough timescale, nearly everyone's body weight drops to basically nothing. Just give it a century or two.
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May 14, 2020 10:42
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Pistol_Pete posted:Sorry Op, I have this article here, from the NYT, no less! that confirms that it's completely impossible to lose weight once you get fat and you should instead be demanding that society adjusts itself to normalising your gigantic bulk: This is pretty much what the gently caress It Diet book says
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May 14, 2020 10:53
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Aim for 5-10 quality hours of exercise per week. Mix cardio and strength depending on what you actually enjoy doing. Don't cut carbs too much because keto is hard to maintain and does weird things. Ideally you are building muscle as you lose weight. Biceps and your brain needs carbs to live. Counting calories is a chore I just prefer to just burn more through exercise than I consume. You don't need to eat as much meat as you think, but don't cut it from your diet. Place emphasis on broccoli. All calories are not equal. Anything green is good. Fresh fruit gives you power. If you drink you might also want to figure out what is a reasonable amount to suit your goal. Less is always better but we all gotta live you know? Any way that's my advice, it's nothing special.
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May 14, 2020 11:37
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I eat some random amount of chocolate, two ground beefs and some fries every day and take some vitamins. Please do not follow my diet.
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May 14, 2020 11:52
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Creds: was 330+ lbs, now 225, lost the weight over about a year and a half, have kept it off for the past 6 years. I should lose some more weight, and I made some mistakes, but learned a lot, and I'd like to share some stuff. Obesity is a medical condition requiring treatment which, like other medical treatments, *should* be undertaken under the advice of a doctor. Yes, that treatment could be doing exactly what you're doing (although doubtful), but there could be reasons why it should not be done that way. Your blood levels should be monitored regularly while undergoing treatment to ensure you're not putting them out of whack with a greatly modified diet. I personally ended up with low iron because I was eating mainly fish and chicken, and my doctor (get this) recommended I eat more red meat. Nobody on this forum knows what your medical conditions are, and while the risk is super low for the vast majority of people, you can royally gently caress yourself up if you don't approach weight loss correctly. Unless you live in the US (in which case RIP), getting advice from your GP on weight loss should not be an onerous thing. Be prepared for glycogen store replenishment. You likely lost 7-10 lbs your first week. People commonly understand that to be "water weight", but what is less commonly known is that it works both ways. Your body stores energy in the form of glycogen for quick access, and those stores need to be supported by an amount of water. When you're burning more calories than you have readily available in your bloodstream, your body will go to the glycogen stores to get the rest. This typically occurs during exercise, but if you have any significant calorie restriction, you will use up your glycogen stores just by sitting around. Then you've got that day that you pee a lot, and goodbye water weight. That's why you only lose 2 lbs the next week. But, when you inevitably stumble and eat over your maintenance calories, the first thing your body will do will be to fill those glycogen stores back up, which means you'll put that water weight back on. A lot of people get frustrated and give up at this point because they don't understand why they went over just one day and gained 5 lbs, destroying the last two and a half weeks of effort. Except they didn't. That'll go away again in the next couple of days if you go right back to your CR diet. No, this isn't proof that "starvation mode" is a thing. Starvation mode (as it is commonly understood) is bullshit, but adaptive thermogenesis is a thing that actually exists. If you aren't consuming enough calories over time to feed your brain once your glycogen stores are gone, you will will start burning muscle despite having fat stores available. You absolutely can die from heart failure because your diet is too restrictive. This is why doctors worldwide typically suggest no greater than 1000 kCal deficit/day (amounting to 2 lbs/week) for people who aren't super obese. For those people, they apparently can burn through fat faster with less danger. Almost certainly you do not fit in that category. Exercise is vital, but sustained high-intensity exercise should be avoided while on calorie restriction. See above. Without glycogen stores to support exercise, you'll burn muscle along with the fat. Getting your 150 min light/medium-intensity exercise per week is still important, but unless you're on a keto diet, if you smell ammonia after a workout, that almost certainly means you're going too hard and need to dial it back a notch. There's no point in losing weight if you make yourself weaker in the process. The "fat-burning zone" (which really should have been called the muscle preservation zone) is what you should aim for. Lift things, but do it responsibly. All of the above is science-based, backed up by studies and doctors. The rest below is just my experience and opinions.
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May 14, 2020 13:31
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Goodpancakes posted:An article in the Economist about the Calorie: If someone wants to take the next step in practical eating beyond fad diets and doesn't want to/can't visit a dietary specialist because they are in a hell country with hell healthcare they should look closer at macro balance. Calorie counting comes first but macro balance can have a huge impact on how you feel. Satiety is very personal so beware one size fits all macro ratios - you're looking for a balance here where you feel good after eating a ruthlessly calorie counted portion. And if someone is looking to make cardio or weight lifting gains it ends up being another balance point as they all get burned off eventually but can have major impacts on how your body responds during and after excercising and how you feel during it. A lot of people dive even further into macro makeup but a lot of that is weightlifting or marathon myths. There's still a couple important points for general health though: avoid saturated fats and prefer trans fats (for heart health more than weight control). Simple vs complex carbs is controversial (simple carbs suck but because they are in otherwise empty food imo) but what isn't is fiber. Don't worry about some nebulous "your gut fauna". Carbs balanced with fiber is proven to control blood sugar uptake and while these further points are associated or correlated instead of caused by blood sugar, this generally means you feel better, have less cravings later, and avoid insulin resistance later in life. numberoneposter posted:Aim for 5-10 quality hours of exercise per week. Mix cardio and strength depending on what you actually enjoy doing.
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May 14, 2020 13:33
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CICO will never be 100% accurate, but it's close enough that it should be followed until we figure out something better.
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SubnormalityStairs posted:Creds: was 330+ lbs, now 225, lost the weight over about a year and a half, have kept it off for the past 6 years. I should lose some more weight, and I made some mistakes, but learned a lot, and I'd like to share some stuff. This is an excellent post thank you. And congrats on the weight loss!
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Dixville posted:I love roasted vegetables this, but also grilled and steamed steamed broccoli and carrots  e: also it's not really all that hard to find food with fiber if you're eating vegetables every day bradzilla fucked around with this message at 13:57 on May 14, 2020 |
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:What's the correlation high protein diets increase the amount of uric acid in your body. also when fat burns off it dumps a bunch of the poo poo you were storing in those fat cells into your kidneys like oxalates and such. Drink plenty of water. If it makes you feel any better after I lost all that weight I didn't yoyo back up, I'm still at my goal weight, it's been five years. But that's because I made permanent changes to my diet like cutting out 95% of the sugar I was eating.
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OP, you said you have no interest in an active lifestyle. You don't want to exercise. You will not lose weight, and will die from obeisity because you refuse actual change. You may even become a burden on others. Use your body. Its the best thing youve got.
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The_Continental posted:OP, you said you have no interest in an active lifestyle. You don't want to exercise. You will not lose weight, and will die from obeisity because you refuse actual change. You may even become a burden on others. Exercise is important, but not strictly necessary for weight loss. In fact, exercise shouldn’t even be your primary method of weight loss unless you only aim to lose a small amount, because very few people have the time or willpower it takes to exercise for hours daily, which is what you would need to do to match a 1000 kCal deficit. Even people who can’t exercise due to health issues can lose weight through a modified diet. But yeah op, you should exercise unless your doctor says you can’t. 20-30 min of exercise per day coming to 150+ minutes per week is not onerous at all and will add years and quality to your life.
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May 14, 2020 15:04
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Yeah I try to add a five mile walk couple times a week. That with my gas station diet, I did drop another 3.8 pounds.
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May 14, 2020 15:35
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I once lost 40 pounds in 2 weeks. Were you like 500 lbs.? Because that's some "My 600-lb. Life" poo poo right there where the doctor's like "you're eating 30,000 calories a day to maintain this. I'm cutting you back to 1,200 and you'll lose 50 lbs. in a month."
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May 14, 2020 15:52
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PostNouveau posted:Were you like 500 lbs.? Because that's some "My 600-lb. Life" poo poo right there where the doctor's like "you're eating 30,000 calories a day to maintain this. I'm cutting you back to 1,200 and you'll lose 50 lbs. in a month." These posts come up every time there’s a weight Let’s say that 5 of those pounds were water from glycogen stores, leaving 35 lbs of fat. So 2.5 lbs per day, at 3500 kCal per pound, is 10,500 kCal per day. In order to have that much of a deficit eating absolutely nothing, being a 5’11” 25-yo male with a sedentary lifestyle, you would need to be roughly 1700 lbs to lose that much in that period of time according to normal calculations. Yes, I am aware that regular calculations do break down after a point, but yeah, that’s in the 500-600+ range. Let’s just say I have doubts. Edit: to strike through “loss”, because they come up in fat threads too.
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SubnormalityStairs posted:These posts come up every time there’s a weight He was 1700lbs stop being loving rude.
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May 14, 2020 16:45
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SubnormalityStairs posted:These posts come up every time there’s a weight There's something missing there, like "I'm 6'9" and was 700 lbs" or "also in that time I had surgery to remove a 30 lb. benign tumor".
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May 14, 2020 16:49
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explosivo posted:I've lost ~35 pounds since the quarantine started only because I'm not eating fast food garbage morning noon and night, and thanks to being furloughed I actually have time to go for walks and play ring fit during the day so I'm getting more exercise than before which was none. I'm still a big fat rear end so that's not to say I won't start eating garbage again once the quarantine is over but man it's crazy how much easier it is when you prepare everything you eat and just don't buy bullshit at the grocery store. This might be the longest stretch of time in my entire life that I've almost exclusively eaten food I prepared for myself. All of this also applies to me and I’ve gained two pounds
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please don't ton shame me
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The_Continental posted:OP, you said you have no interest in an active lifestyle. You don't want to exercise. You will not lose weight, and will die from obeisity because you refuse actual change. You may even become a burden on others. I’ll use your body
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OP I recommend you get on a Fen-Phen diet. It’s all the rage nowadays.
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A liquid diet only holds out for a week for most. You'll have trouble sleeping. You won't get all of the amino acids your body need to function, and it will wear you down until you give up, and quickly. Just count calories. Cut down on junk food. Log literally everything you eat and track your weight.
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PostNouveau posted:There's something missing there, like "I'm 6'9" and was 700 lbs" or "also in that time I had surgery to remove a 30 lb. benign tumor". Should call up Guinness, since the most rapid weight loss ever recorded averaged roughly 12 lbs/wk. Nigmaetcetera, are you literally Paul Kimelman?
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OP still making those sick I can tell you i'm not craving food anymore... I just want booze.. any suggestions to fight booze cravings?
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Edgar posted:OP still making those sick 
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When I get to 190 lbs I am going to do everything intelligent recommended in this thread, such as weighing my food and counting calories. Until then, I will continue with experimental and dangerously stupid weight loss ideas that pop in my head.The_Continental posted:OP, you said you have no interest in an active lifestyle. You don't want to exercise. You will not lose weight, and will die from obeisity because you refuse actual change. You may even become a burden on others. I work 16 hours a day. You're supposed to sleep 8 hours a day. When am I exactly supposed to exercise? I also have to fit in showering, shaving, and talking to my wife. Speaking of which, she thinks this is a terrible idea but knows my personality and also knows this is the only way I will lose weight. However, she proposed a slight modification to my stupid experiment: every 7th day eat solid foods and eat whatever I want. I'm big on fried chicken, chicken wings, cheeseburgers, garbage like that. So she said every 7 days I should eat all that poo poo. This way, my body will at least get some carbs/protein, and I'm not going to really put on that much weight (if any) by eating like poo poo once a week and then having 420 calories the rest of the week. Plus it will be like a "treat" or "light at the end of the tunnel" every week, making me more likely to stick with the Slim Fast shakes the other 6 days. I am contemplating it. I could really go for some habanero wings right about now.
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Playing wow for 8-16 hours a day isn't work  Just attach a recumbent bike to your desk and you'll be good to go
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:When I get to 190 lbs I am going to do everything intelligent recommended in this thread, such as weighing my food and counting calories. Until then, I will continue with experimental and dangerously stupid weight loss ideas that pop in my head. I've heard the "go loving nuts cheat day" doesn't work because people go like 10,000 calories after being at a 7,000 calorie deficit for the week. Seen people recommend you have a "cheat meal" instead. That said your "only Slimfast" plan is so far from the norm that who knows.
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I've not had a drink for a month (I was too slobby in the 1st month of lockdown and gained a bunch of weight, so I've been slimming back down myself).
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WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:When I get to 190 lbs I am going to do everything intelligent recommended in this thread, such as weighing my food and counting calories. Until then, I will continue with experimental and dangerously stupid weight loss ideas that pop in my head. Instead of gorging yourself on fried chicken, cheeseburgers, fried wings for one day, spread it out during the week. A single cheese burger is 300-500 calories assuming meat, cheese, bun, and not a half cup of mayo or bacon. Dumped the fried for baked, portion it out etc. Reveling in bad eating habits 1x a week will undo a lot of accomplishment. Because otherwise if you're plan is hugely restrict calories, gorge yourself on day 7 I can't really see that working. The only people who have 10,000 calorie cheat days are the people working out 3 hours a day.
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PostNouveau posted:Were you like 500 lbs.? Because that's some "My 600-lb. Life" poo poo right there where the doctor's like "you're eating 30,000 calories a day to maintain this. I'm cutting you back to 1,200 and you'll lose 50 lbs. in a month." No I was about 340. I was regularly binging to maintain that weight on account of being severely depressed, though, and switching from an all cinnamon roll and ice cream diet to an all white meat chicken and hot sauce diet took care of it. The amphetamines probably didnt hurt either. I did this all under a doctor’s supervision. Ill probably do it again, but not so extreme.
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