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Absolutely love this game, don't have the DE edition though but I did get the HD version when it released and got like 30 hours in a few days.. I didn't have really good internet back in the day so I didn't play online as much, I would just do lan with friends and my brother. Probably will get it during next sale since I hear this is a massive improvement and has all the dlcs. The community for this game is so amazing, there is still streamers, competitive tournaments, youtube content and custom maps/modes being made.
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This is the only competitive AoE 2 match I know about https://youtu.be/1Czb64v3WMY
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Ulio posted:Absolutely love this game, don't have the DE edition though but I did get the HD version when it released and got like 30 hours in a few days.. I didn't have really good internet back in the day so I didn't play online as much, I would just do lan with friends and my brother. There was recently a sale on all Xbox Game Studios games on Steam and the sale amount (%25) did not stack with my discount for already owning the HD version (also %25), so $15 might be the cheapest you'll see it for a while. You might have a coupon in your Steam inventory for the DE, but if not you can still get the discount by buying this bundle (it includes both the DE and HD versions at 25% off, but since you already own the HD it will subtract that from the price).
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Did anyone else complete all the quests e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE0z1Yr4Fb4 Pretty impressive mod It's also just funny all around if you're familiar with lotr Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 07:50 on May 14, 2020 |
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May 14, 2020 00:52
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I kind of look at the quests as rewards for things you're already going to do if you're going to play, but I wouldn't go out of my way for them. Maybe some other people are really into cheats/icons/visual mods though.
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May 15, 2020 16:47
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I haven't done any of the quests yet but I'll probably try to at least get that cheat code for 256x tech upgrades before it's gone. I saw a gif of someone using that on trebs to launch projectiles almost all the way across the map, leveling every building within like a 2 screen radius. e: 
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May 15, 2020 17:44
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Sadly I think all the quests are gone, as of a few days ago. Speaking of, picked the game back up for the first time in a month or so and tried to face the Hard AI only to get repeatedly owned. I think based on my performance I could probably beat Moderate with decent regularity if I moved back a level, but the best I can do on Hard is raid the AI a bit to stall out getting crushed by a vastly superior army in Imperial. I know what i'm supposed to be doing, I just can't move efficiently enough to compete with the AI, which is kind of a bad sign for future progress as opposed to being completely clueless but easily fixed. Jossar fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 15, 2020 |
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May 15, 2020 18:50
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The cheat code doesn't seem to work for me. How is it supposed to work? Also I pretty much stick with moderate and its a crapshoot over how much of a challenge it'll be
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May 16, 2020 00:25
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I like playing AOE2 as a compstomp and just making hundreds of villagers and being the resource breadbasket for my human cohorts until late game when I take my amassed riches and swarm the remaining enemy with whatever my most dumb expensive units are
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May 16, 2020 18:54
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I think I'm gonna make the move to hard. Moderate's been pretty much one sided these last few times. Comp can't keep up with my now sub 16 fast castle.
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May 16, 2020 22:54
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i vomit kittens posted:There was recently a sale on all Xbox Game Studios games on Steam and the sale amount (%25) did not stack with my discount for already owning the HD version (also %25), so $15 might be the cheapest you'll see it for a while. You might have a coupon in your Steam inventory for the DE, but if not you can still get the discount by buying this bundle (it includes both the DE and HD versions at 25% off, but since you already own the HD it will subtract that from the price). Cool, I think I will wait till summer steam sale probably will be cheaper then and I might have more time by then. Until then I might reinstall AoE2hd. Been watching some pro players do 3v3 /4v4 its so freaking intense.
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Despite unlocking the Going above and beyond cheat, I have no clue how to make it work. Do I have to download a patch or something? All my bombards are already gold...
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Beat a hard comp 1v1! As opposed to teams. Berserks feel much improved for some reason. Still, wish vikes had Halbs and there's no excuse in them not having herbal medicine, unique tech or not
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This game rules. I was terrible as a kid but with the videos and information available now I understand why and I'm soaking up as much as I can to try and improve. I'm blown away by the depth of strategy and its even better with the monthly patches that continually tweak the meta. I remember how I used to think that it was lame that there was really one "race" in the game unlike Starcraft, but now that I've dug into it I can really appreciate the diversity that the selective tech trees and bonuses provide between the civs. Anyone else been playing ranked matches? I've made it a quarantine goal to break 1000 ELO in 1v1 but the player base seems to be improving and growing at a ridiculous pace. Hard to keep up. Around 900 currently. whiggles fucked around with this message at 21:26 on May 21, 2020 |
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May 21, 2020 20:58
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Eh don't worry actually 900 in AoE2 is pretty impressive just cause there is so many experienced players even in lower elo due to how old the game is and how active older players still are. Like I have some people I just played 3v3s with when HD launched and those guys have been playing AoE2 through this whole time. I really need to get back and read some guides, I been watching a competitive tournament thats been going right now. The high level gameplay of AoE2 is so underrated compared to C&C/StarCraft/Warcraft or Company of Heroes.
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That's nice, glad to hear I'm not trash status (even if I place an inefficient lumber camp or two). The biggest area for improvement I see is in my late game production. Most games that go to Imperial age usually end with me sitting on lots of excess resources regardless of if I win or lose. Been trying to use the market more until I can develop better eco balance. The competitive scene is great. I haven't really participated in any online gaming communities before but from what I can tell it seems like the AOE2 group is super chill and supportive. Even the chat during streams is pretty devoid of the usual toxic tropes that sometimes show up.
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I haven't played many ranked games but the ones I have played have been incredibly inconsistent in terms of how good I thought my opponent was despite them being around the same ELO. I doubt smurfing is really an issue in this game, so I don't know if it's just: 1) I'm a little under 1000 ELO which is where everyone starts out at, meaning I get matched up both with people who are very new to the game and those who have been playing for a while and are actually at 1000 ELO. 2) The people I play against who I think are "good" have some fundamental flaw in the way they're playing that I am also too bad to capitalize on, but it keeps them from progressing any further.
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i vomit kittens posted:I haven't played many ranked games but the ones I have played have been incredibly inconsistent in terms of how good I thought my opponent was despite them being around the same ELO. I doubt smurfing is really an issue in this game, so I don't know if it's just: It's definitely a bit of both, I'm only just as around 1000 Elo after playing roughly 100 ranked 1v1 games since launch. Some games are done in less than 15min when they just collapse to a scout rush or fall way behind. Then others I feel like I'm completely outplayed, but even in those games there's usually obvious mistakes I've made or things I didn't capitalise on. Definitely feels like the 1000 Elo range has less beginners than before which makes sense, but I'm sure new people are jumping on still. It's interesting to look at replays sometimes, especially for the games that I've lost. A lot of games I've felt like I had no chance once knights rushed me, then watching the replay their whole base will have been open with no real military before the castle age. Or other things that could have been easy to take advantage of. The main thing I'm still working on is actually using scout information to make decisions - I'm good at scouting their base and finding where they are, but I always forget to think about things like whether they've got a safe gold/stone in the back, or if certain spots can be easily pressured. Getting in with some scouts and then later knights generally works best for me at this level, especially on big open maps. Lots of players handle it badly even if they make some spearmen, since you can just keep running around and hitting other areas if they're not fully walled in. As long as I don't get too distracted and ignore my own economy it works pretty well, even with just idling a bunch of villagers and not being able to take any out.
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I haven't played any online matches yet. Trying to master beating comps first. Otoh, probably learning some bad habits. Love plinking at a town center with korean towers and watching the ai garrison and release all its vills in between salvos
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Well just took down 3 1v1s in a row and almost back at 950. Nice to see improvement. My basic strat on most maps is playing mayans and rushing with archers while queuing up a few eagle scouts to pull up at their base right as they bring out the skirms. I think improving my feudal time by even just a minute or so has most players scrambling to respond and I can usually catch them before they have military out. Oh and finally getting in the habit of full walling during my up time has been huge in being able to keep the pressure on. It's definitely cheesy but I'm sure I'll hit a wall pretty soon and have to start experimenting again . Toast King posted:It's interesting to look at replays sometimes, especially for the games that I've lost. A lot of games I've felt like I had no chance once knights rushed me, then watching the replay their whole base will have been open with no real military before the castle age. Or other things that could have been easy to take advantage of. It's always funny whenever the revealed map pops up at the end and I see there was a completely open back of the base with an exposed woodline the whole time I was dying under castle fire in the front. whiggles fucked around with this message at 03:41 on May 22, 2020 |
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3 wins in a row against hard comp! ...via korean tower rush cheese. It almost feels like cheating and it's definitely taking advantage of the AI. That said, I can see how it'd be strong as hell against real people, especially bad ones. If you can drop a forward castle (or even one at home so you won't be totally exposed) get some WW out to raid where your towers aren't, a few pikes/skirms to take some hits and some mangonels to start chipping away at their main it's pretty much over.
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lmao, according to the person who made the original 256x tech mod, the game devs just rolled over his mod into the base game for the cheat code and he thinks that's a very bad idea because he said there were a lot of bugs in it, one of them being that it might end up allowing you to research things more than once even in games where the cheat isn't enabled. Apparently he's already had people tell him that this has happened since the addition.quote:As I don't regularly play the game, it only recently came to my attention that the mod had been implemented into the game as a cheat code. My first thought of course was "cool", but then it reminded me of some of the headaches I had with all the bugs caused by the mod. I haven't looked at the implementation from the developers, but according to my friend the new cheat code already caused a lot of bugs in normal multiplayer games, such as technologies being researchable more than once.
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Milo and POTUS posted:3 wins in a row against hard comp! Congrats! Tower rushing got nerfed a bit in DE: they now have lower HP in Feudal age. Tower rushing can still work but it's much easier to beat it back than it used to be. You can't just drop some towers, hang back and go to castle anymore. I remember a ranked game a while back someone built like 5-6(!) towers on my woodline in Feudal age. I just walled a bit, took a different woodline, then rolled over him as soon as I got to castle age since he had so much economy on stone (and no military). On dropping castles since I had this come up in a few (really good) games this week: It can be really greedy to go for it too soon and your opponent can punish you for it. I had a Hillfort game as Spanish and tried rushing straight for Conquistadors and got smacked around in Feudal for it. I eventually fended it off with a big mango hit:  Then tonight (Hillfort again) I figured that's what the other guy would go for: we're walled and he's Goths so he'll probably go straight for a castle. I went full-feudal and just busted through the gates with archers. By the time he reached Castle age I had a dozen archers standing on his gold/stone/half his farms and he never recovered.
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What's all that going on with the green boxesi vomit kittens posted:lmao, according to the person who made the original 256x tech mod, the game devs just rolled over his mod into the base game for the cheat code and he thinks that's a very bad idea because he said there were a lot of bugs in it, one of them being that it might end up allowing you to research things more than once even in games where the cheat isn't enabled. Apparently he's already had people tell him that this has happened since the addition. Good news! I can't seem to get the cheat to work anyway!
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It's a sperg mod so you never miss holes in your woodline.
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No clue man what the gently caress some of these rewards are
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lol i'm feeling very torn between my desire for optimal efficiency and my appreciation for the pastoral aesthetic of the game.
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Any online co-op stuff in the game?
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whiggles posted:lol What are you talking about? The norman invaders used green cubes to mark trees at every motte and bailey. domhal posted:Any online co-op stuff in the game? You can whale on comps? There's probably some scenarios for this but it really seems like custom maps aren't a huge scene from what I've seen. DM either 
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domhal posted:Any online co-op stuff in the game? comp stomps are a aoe2 tradition and even GBS can usually get enough gamers going to do it if games can't
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domhal posted:Any online co-op stuff in the game? Do you mean "specific scenarios for co-op play" or just "fighting the AI with other human players"? Because: Statutory Ape posted:comp stomps are a aoe2 tradition and even GBS can usually get enough gamers going to do it if games can't It's Friday and so there will almost definitely be games happening if you wanted to join. You don't have to be good. Our skill levels range from "above average player" to "not contributing at all" to "someone do a wellness check I think he passed out at his keyboard (again)." 
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Harveygod posted:Do you mean "specific scenarios for co-op play" or just "fighting the AI with other human players"? lol i bet i know who
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Major nerf on 11. This is really gonna shake up the taunt meta.
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wait where is this happening? steam id: onaicuL
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The problem I'm having with the compstomps I keep seeing is they love Ludicrous sized maps. BF especially and doubly so if it's a noob game. If all you want to do is wall up and eco boom why not just do a wonder race or something like that. And if all you want to do is tech to mass pals, why not just DM? Especially against the moderate comp
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Greatest Living Man posted:wait where is this happening? Request sent. Probably around 8PM (eastern US). There are usually 2-4 of us around. Milo and POTUS posted:The problem I'm having with the compstomps I keep seeing is they love Ludicrous sized maps. BF especially and doubly so if it's a noob game. If all you want to do is wall up and eco boom why not just do a wonder race or something like that. And if all you want to do is tech to mass pals, why not just DM? Especially against the moderate comp Ludikris sized maps are exactly that: ludicrous. It sounds fun and epic but it ends up just being unnecessarily drawn out.
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It'd probably be a lot more fun with a much larger max pop (assuming the game doesn't become a laggy unplayable mess like mine does) and you were good enough to be able to control the gigantic armies and villagers all over the map it'd require but even so it's primarily so they can turtle up and boom unimpeded. Boooooring. And BF is a lot more fun as a DM map
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For anyone interested in tournaments: Battle of Africa 2 is happening right now and wrapping up next weekend. It's the first major team game tournament since Definitive Edition was released and has a $20000 prize pool. It's hosted by membTV but is also being cast by T90 (and a few other people).
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Ya been watching this tournament pretty closely and competitive 3v3 is a treat. Also there is rule to not sling before imperial so you can't tribute or just play for econ. Forces every player to be active.
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