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TK-42-1 posted:Mine specifically says if the cover is missing it’s stolen. I’m not at home otherwise i’d take a pic. That's hosed up bullshit what happens iirc is if a store can't sell books but they're cheap they mark them as destroyed and make the employees rip the cover off and throw them in the trash. They get some kind of credit with the publisher and the whole thing is some how more cost effective for everyone involved than sending them back would be. Books like that are "stolen" the same way people could "steal" day old bead a bakery throws out. It's fuckin crazy but if you know someone who works at a place like that deff have them scoop some
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SniperWoreConverse posted:That's hosed up bullshit what happens iirc is if a store can't sell books but they're cheap they mark them as destroyed and make the employees rip the cover off and throw them in the trash. They get some kind of credit with the publisher and the whole thing is some how more cost effective for everyone involved than sending them back would be. It's pretty nuts and journalists should put book/magazine retailers on blast if not just for the carbon footprint of such a process
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May 16, 2020 06:06
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They've been stripping books for decades, probably 50+ years or whenever trade paperbacks were invented. When I was a kid my mom would snag them from work if they seemed like something I'd like. Normal paperbacks and hardcover ones get remaindered and sold off in bulk. If you buy a book with a sharpie mark on the page edges whoever sold you it probably paid a buck or less. I guess trade paperbacks are so cheap it's not feasible to bother trying to remainder them? I'm pretty sure both things are done partly because it results in a business loss they can put on their taxes. There was a court case where a company was like "well we hosed up and made too many sprockets I'm gonna write them off" and the irs won when the judge told them to get hosed, they couldn't write off perfectly fine sprockets just cause they didn't sell. But if they are physically destroyed it somehow counts. It doesn't make sense to me but apparently this happens in other situations where good products are ruined for no sensible reason Someone who actually works at a book store or publisher or a tax goon probably gets it and could explain for real
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May 16, 2020 06:28
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It's an arcane and confusing jumble of legal shenanigans, economic necessity and sheer wastefulness driven by hunger for wealth. So it's very on-brand for Dune at least.
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May 16, 2020 07:50
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I'm pretty sure both things are done partly because it results in a business loss they can put on their taxes... if they are physically destroyed it somehow counts. It doesn't make sense to me but apparently this happens in other situations where good products are ruined for no sensible reason Hey man, 
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May 16, 2020 07:50
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The point of stripping is that the bookstore sends the cover back to a publisher for credit, and then destroys the book. Why send the whole thing back? That these books make their way into bookshelves is just people pulling them out of the trash. Edit: so trash books end up in landfill and good books that happened to have a print run that was slightly larger than optimal disappear. It's fine. How many copies of sandworms of dune do you think were sneaked out of the rubbish bin? exmachina fucked around with this message at 12:50 on May 16, 2020 |
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May 16, 2020 11:23
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I don’t know man, we’re talking a book by the New York Times bestselling author of the Dune series.
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May 16, 2020 13:15
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I hope Sandworms got used as Toilet Paper.
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May 16, 2020 13:56
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Makers are smooth as hell
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:I hope Sandworms got used as Toilet Paper. May its passing cleanse the hole
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May 16, 2020 14:19
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No one told me just to rip the covers off, so whenever I was asked to destroy unsalable books I just went to town on them before dumping the bits back in the trash. I guess it was kind of cathartic when 90% of the rest of the job was gently adjusting stacks of brand new textbooks on their shelves. Got in trouble when a customer asked if we could recycle their old book since we weren't buying it back, and I told them "No, but I can destroy it for you."
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May 16, 2020 14:21
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exmachina posted:The point of stripping is that the bookstore sends the cover back to a publisher for credit, and then destroys the book. Why send the whole thing back? That these books make their way into bookshelves is just people pulling them out of the trash. My hippie rear end wants them pulped for toilet paper and colouring books
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May 16, 2020 14:47
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They probably are, if they are in a polity with a decent recycling service
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YoursTruly posted:No one told me just to rip the covers off, so whenever I was asked to destroy unsalable books I just went to town on them before dumping the bits back in the trash. I guess it was kind of cathartic when 90% of the rest of the job was gently adjusting stacks of brand new textbooks on their shelves. Yeah stripping is a slightly archaic practice now and big distributers just report sales and receive credit for the rest but smaller sites still send a big ol' envelope packed with covers, sometimes just the title to save space
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May 16, 2020 15:25
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Finished the first three books. Paul dies. Now I'm off to Wikipedia so I can find out if I actually understood the plot correctly
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May 17, 2020 10:43
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Tricky D posted:it's going to be sting again because he stopped aging in the early 90s If this doesn't happen I'll be seriously disappointed. Phlegmish posted:Finished the first three books. Paul dies. Now I'm off to Wikipedia so I can find out if I actually understood the plot correctly I had to do this after watching the movie and ended up reading the summaries of all the books, it gets very trippy and confusing. Some parts of the film that made me laugh: Stilgar sounding like Zapp Brannigan when he says Muad'Dibuh Stilgar sounding sassy/flirty when he exlaims "Muad'Dib!" at Paul being able to weird without the device Alia saying "how could this be? He is the Kwisatz Haderach!" when it starts to rain at the end. I'd been so long since that had been mentioned and I was having trouble keeping up with all the words so I thought for a second it was another entirely new concept that hadn't been brought up before at all.
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May 17, 2020 16:43
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Movie Stilgar rules.
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May 17, 2020 16:48
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I was like 24 when I read the book but I first saw the Lynch movie when I was fuckin 7 and I found it in my grandmother's huge VHS hoard while I was staying with her one summer and I immediately loved it, even more than the og star wars flicks (which she had too), so despite becoming aware at some point that the movie was a bad adaptation, for nearly two decades my only exposure to Dune was occasionally rewatching that fuckin thing + looking over my brother's shoulder sometime in my early teens watching him play through one of the Emperor: Battle for Dune campaigns. "For he IS the kwisatz haderach!!!" is high grade schlock but it gave me chills every time when I was a kid ngl.
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May 17, 2020 16:53
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My only exposure to Dune before watching the movie was the Iron Maiden song.
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May 17, 2020 16:56
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That reminds me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37fxQtulXUg Arjen Lucassen refuses to read books so here's Dune: The Movie: The Early 2000s Prog Metal Banger
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May 17, 2020 16:59
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May 17, 2020 17:05
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Hell yeah, the move's soundtrack is awesome. I keep listening to the haunting Prophecy Theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4onBqilHvc
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May 17, 2020 17:29
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Phlegmish posted:Finished the first three books. Paul dies. Now I'm off to Wikipedia so I can find out if I actually understood the plot correctly Don't worry, he comes back in the sequels. First as ghola paul and then as ghola ghola paolo and then there's the ultraspice. Thank the maker @duneauthor did such a good job preserving his dad's real, actual intent and totally for realsies extensive notes that were faithfully followed to give us such great books after dune 6.
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May 17, 2020 17:41
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Someone tap the sign, please.
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May 17, 2020 17:43
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exmachina posted:They probably are, if they are in a polity with a decent recycling service Aren't most city recycling programs just a front facade, and the bins all just get dumped regardless?
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THE BAR posted:Someone tap the sign, please. *taps sign and sheds water*
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May 17, 2020 17:55
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He gives water to the memes!
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May 17, 2020 18:10
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Johnny Aztec posted:Aren't most city recycling programs just a front facade, and the bins all just get dumped regardless? To a degree the idea of recycling certain things was just a PR scheme to hide the fact that we were putting poo poo on a boat and sending it to China...until they decided to stop taking it all that is, some materials can be recycled very efficiently tho, but it really depends on the level of biotic contaminants in a batch. It's all very sobering.
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THE BAR posted:
This is the absolute worst cover but this is the one my mum bought for me on a whim. She has no idea about SF but got it for 14 y/o me and I've loved it ever since. It's a hideous cover but means much to me
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Johnny Aztec posted:Aren't most city recycling programs just a front facade, and the bins all just get dumped regardless? It depends on your waste district
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:To a degree the idea of recycling certain things was just a PR scheme to hide the fact that we were putting poo poo on a boat and sending it to China...until they decided to stop taking it all that is, some materials can be recycled very efficiently tho, but it really depends on the level of biotic contaminants in a batch. It's all very sobering. * Aluminium: Wonderful and easy to recycle * Paper: Easily reused to at least some extent * Glass: Not easily recycled but very reusable (shame we don't have bottle deposit programs still) * Plastic: Bad * Water: yes, unless individual Abomination or otherwise tainted e: Like even Penn & Teller's Libertarian Propaganda Hour (With Jokes) admitted recycling aluminium is a good plan, I think.
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May 17, 2020 23:16
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Please do not feed the @duneauthor
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Nessus posted:The breakdown I dimly recall is: I would imagine the bulk of aluminum recyclables are chips from machined parts. The dumpsters full of aluminum spirals coming out of machine shops has got to be the easiest poo poo in the world to melt down and realloy. Granted, the US only does so much manufacturing, but any and all aluminum headed toward military or aircraft applications (often ITAR controlled) will have scrap associated with manufacturing. Consumer grade applications rely on waterfat commoners to sort.
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"Some goon upthread that I can't find now" posted:Well Lord theres nothing on Dune like a genuine, bonafide, electrified, Ix-made Royal Cart! I hear the Emperor’s weight is vast -Suspensor globes can lift that mass Is there a chance my life you’ll take? -Not for the last time, my ghola friend What about we insurrectors? -You’ll be tested in the desert Do you defy the Jihad? -Machine-like thinking is what’s bad Stagnation leads to extinction I’ve seen through oracular vision -♪Royal cart What's it called? -Royal cart♪ Once again -♪Royal cart! But Leto bade that I play traitor -Watch Duncan climb a wall later ♪Royal Cart! Royal Cart! Royal Cart!♪ Royal- doh!
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May 18, 2020 02:41
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I saw that episode of the Letosons.
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May 18, 2020 07:32
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Oh my god-emperor, you killed Duncan!
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Kull wahad, what is happening in there!? ...the Golden Path? Th- The Golden Path? In the year 10,191, at this delicate time, on this desert planet, localized entirely in the place where women fear to look?
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Since we're listening to the Lynch movie soundtrack, I just want to point out a good portion of it was written/performed by TOTO, of Africa fame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WMy-AStPhE
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May 18, 2020 13:56
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I know there are different styles in there, but I thought for sure Toto did all of it.
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THE BAR posted:I know there are different styles in there, but I thought for sure Toto did all of it. Brian Eno, the guy that wrote the Windows 95 startup sound, did some of it.
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