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Nidhg00670000 posted:The white one in Nybro? Kind of looks like a ten meter car to me from the photos. Yep. The pictures were pretty honest. Rust was where you could see it on the pictures, not too bad. Posted a trip report in the chat thread.
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monsterzero posted:And to add, I think my truck's got worms One of my neighbors has a same-generation Silverado, in the same color, doing the exact same thing.
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Common problem. Just comes off in chunks.
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Weird it looks like the primer is still intact and there bonding between color and primer failed.
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Combat Theory posted:Weird it looks like the primer is still intact and there bonding between color and primer failed. Yeah, it is primer. The clear and color usually come off separately, especially on the horizontal surfaces, this was just a lucky bubble. The primer has about a year of UV exposure before it wears away and starts blushing with rust.
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Elviscat posted:That's the era where some car makers were struggling with the new low-VOC paints, right? Especially white. And it was near universal.
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Elviscat posted:That's the era where some car makers were struggling with the new low-VOC paints, right? Just like they were a decade before as well.
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That's a quality Honda J35S1 baby
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Deteriorata posted:It turns terrible when it's ugly or unsafe or half-assed. Whatever you do, do it right so that someone coming after you will admire your work rather than ridicule it. I disagree, vehemently. There's always a place for fully restored cars and time capsules, but, frankly, how many "as they were" cars do you need? They were modded when they were new, they can continue to be modded when parts improve. Imagined posted:I have to say I disagree. I love old cars for how they look. They're gorgeous. Now if we're talking about collector/historical pieces to keep in my billionaire aircraft hanger, sure. Keep it pure. But if I'm going to actually drive it? If I can have those looks but modern safety, reliability, and power? Best of both worlds! What he said. It's really no fun driving around a shitbox with 85 HP when you're surrounded by 2-ton or better vehicles with 250 HP to start, before you even get into trucks and SUVs. Something with a little more get-the-hell-out-of-the-way, please. My RX-7 is marginal with 100 HP and 2500 pounds. My AE86 with less than the original 85 HP and 2700 pounds is downright frightening in traffic if I don't cane the absolute gently caress out of it. 150-175 HP would be nice, with that weight. I mean, as original, a Prius could walk me in the Corolla, easily. My Cutlass, with original 310 HP and 3860 pounds, is adequate. All I want on it is EFI for reliability and some improvement of fuel economy, and an overdrive transmission. And better suspension. And brakes. Better brakes would be nice. IOwnCalculus posted:If somehow you think this is the only way to run exhaust on a LS-swapped B-body, you deserve all the poo poo you're going to get and then some: Sometimes you come to a point of "I just want it to run and drive it, and I'll improve that later." Hopefully that's the case here. It's OK - he's got *two* jacks. GutBomb posted:Why fake a GTR? People who don’t know what it is won’t be impressed and people who do know what it is will know it’s fake. I don’t get it at all. And it's not like the G35/37 looked awful beforehand. Also, I assume that it had fancy wheels that were sold separately, because otherwise, LOL stock wheels. LOL airbag hat will now kill you, too. All the displays are annoying. Why in the sunvisors? For whom and what purpose? - reminds me of the bit about the piece of poo poo car in "gently caress poo poo Stack": (Warning, a whole lot of naughty words) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJQU22Ttpwc&t=170s Relevant bit at 2:50 if video doesn't go there already. CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I'd have that over an R35 in a heartbeat. Fair. Midjack posted:Explain yourself please. I believe it to be a comment on the expensive unreliability of the R35, and I would agree. The G35 can be entertaining without all the amazing fragile bullshit the R35 ended up with, primarily the glass transmission that has features you can't use without grenading it, and the expensive service procedures surrounding said transmission and drivetrain.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:That's a quality Honda J35S1 baby Bizarre move by GM. Good engine, but couldn’t they use one of their own?
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If you can deal with the cut rate interiors the G35/7+Z33/Z34 have good chassis underneath. Some of the last good cars Nissan made.
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Frond posted:Bizarre move by GM. Good engine, but couldn’t they use one of their own? They were trying to differentiate Saturn, I think. At least initially Vue had an Opel engine, L81, which was a weird unicorn (for the US, it was Saturn-brand only) 54 degree V6. The Honda powerplant was an attempted selling point to I think keep the powertrain differentiated, but at the same time the L81 carried on in the Saturn L series, so that's strange too. At the end of its miserable life, the Vue got the High Feature V6. The siblings, Torrent and Equinox, had GM 60 degree V6s and later on some trims had the High Feature V6 when that came out, contemporaneous to the switch away from Honda power for Vue.
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Frond posted:Bizarre move by GM. Good engine, but couldn’t they use one of their own? Are you at all familiar with early 2000s General Motors At one point they just gave up and made a transverse LS
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Darchangel posted:
There's more to it than that (If it aint Slow Is Fast then it's a R32 GT-R or GTFO) altho the horror stories from local R35 owners have been mind boggling. One of the guys detonated 4(!) engines and three gearboxes .... and not even doing track day bro. That G35 is dumb as gently caress but it's a dumb as gently caress that gives me a laugh.
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monsterzero posted:And to add, I think my truck's got worms Better get it fixed before it starts dragging the bed on the ground in circles
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Throatwarbler posted:Are you at all familiar with early 2000s General Motors Where by "made a transverse LS" you mean took an LS, lick-n-sticked a 60 degree V6 pattern onto the back of the block, got rid of the starter mounting pad, made the crank ends different, maybe made the motor mount pads different, and called it a day  All so it would shoehorn into a fwd Impala for the SS option without making a different 4Txxe trans housing. I just like it because it means aside from starter mounting concerns, I can bolt the factory manual or automatic trans from an 80s V6 Toyota pickup right to the back of a late 00s GM V8 using only factory bellhousings from a variety of 80s and 90s Jeep and Dodge products. Auto industry engineering laziness and supply chain incest are loving awesome that way.
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They should just go even lazier and have an SAE, JIS and Metric standard for everything, so you can pop on over to Fastenal or McMaster and order any combination bell housing you want, just like hydraulic fittings.
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kastein posted:Where by "made a transverse LS" you mean took an LS, lick-n-sticked a 60 degree V6 pattern onto the back of the block, got rid of the starter mounting pad, made the crank ends different, maybe made the motor mount pads different, and called it a day I like how the old Saginaw steering column was in a variety of Jeeps and GMs. I wouldn't be shocked if it ended up in a Ford at some point.
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Throatwarbler posted:Are you at all familiar with early 2000s General Motors I keep seeing random GM products that I don't think I ever knew about before. Like the Chevy Orlando. How long did they make those things for? The Pontiac G5 and G6? I guess they were the Sunfire and Grand am? G8 was a Grand prix? Or were they?
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wesleywillis posted:I keep seeing random GM products that I don't think I ever knew about before. Like the Chevy Orlando. How long did they make those things for? G5 is Delta, shared with the Cobalt G6 is an Epsilon, aka Malibu and Saturn Aura. G8 is a Holden Commodore Pontiac died as a result of GM being forced to clean out their brand catalog in 08.
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Wrar posted:G8 is a Holden Commodore And if only they released the SS Ute over in the USA, you'd have your modern El Camino. 
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Elviscat posted:They should just go even lazier and have an SAE, JIS and Metric standard for everything, so you can pop on over to Fastenal or McMaster and order any combination bell housing you want, just like hydraulic fittings. They do have these... https://www.sbmar.com/articles/understanding-bellhousing-and-flywheel-measurements/ SAE anyway, I don't know about metric.
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Wrar posted:G5 is Delta, shared with the Cobalt The G6 claim to fame was via Oprah.
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cakesmith handyman posted:They do have these... I've been beaten. Sadly auto makers aren't on board with this, though industrial marine and commercial trucking are.
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Frond posted:Bizarre move by GM. Good engine, but couldn’t they use one of their own? Because Saturn gonna be Saturn. They used the Honda drivetrain for a few years in the V6 Vue (04-07 IIRC, with the Honda 5 speed auto). They also used an Aisin-Warner 5 speed auto in the 03-05 Ion sedans. Along with a Hugarian-built GM/Fiat CVT for a couple of years in both the Vue and Ion, but only behind the 2.2, and dropped after... 04 on the Vue, 05 on the Ion coupe? Their reliability was measured in "you actually made it to 50k miles? HOLY poo poo!". Later models got the GM 4T45E instead of the Aisin-Warner or VTi (CVT). Wikipedia suggests the 1st gen AWD Vues also got the Aisin-Warner transmission. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 04:06 on May 20, 2020 |
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During that period GM had *checks notes* 6 different V6 engine families in its lineup Buick 3800 60* V6 90* V6 SBC used in the base trucks High Value V6 High Feature V6 The 54* Opel V6 used in the Saturn Vues that didn't use the Honda V6 Plus the LX5 V6 Northstar and the Atlas Inline-6. Plus 5 different displacement/NA/Turbo/Supercharged versions of each. And an Inline 5 Atlas because why not. GM Today: Welp, no manual transmission Corvette because it would cost too much to certify another drivetrain with the EPA.
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At one point in the late 60s they were building four completely different 350 cid V8s.
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Don't forget the 455 BOP big block next to the 454 GMC big block with two entirely different bellhousing patterns just because.
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And the Olds, Buick and Pontiac 455s are also completely distinct engine designs from each other. Edit - And up until 1970 each division was using it's own differential design for basically no reason, unless it was assembled in Canada, then it may have a Chevy 12 bolt. Fornax Disaster fucked around with this message at 05:44 on May 20, 2020 |
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kastein posted:Where by "made a transverse LS" you mean took an LS, lick-n-sticked a 60 degree V6 pattern onto the back of the block, got rid of the starter mounting pad, made the crank ends different, maybe made the motor mount pads different, and called it a day If you mean the LS4, the Getrag F23 (from... the Saturn Ion, Chevy Cobalt, Chevy Cavalier, Saturn Vue, etc etc etc etc... basically the F23 designed for the Ecotec family, not the Iron Duke family) bolts right up to them for a 3 pedal option. And despite their seriously low power rating for those transaxles, so long as you can keep wheel hop at bay, they hold up really well. You have a decent selection of final drive ratios too, depending which vehicle it comes out of (the heavier cars had a shorter final drive - HHR and Vue had the shortest). And if you blow one up... it's not like there's not millions of Cavaliers, Ions, Cobalts, G5s, HHRs, Grand Ams, Vues, etc in junkyards. Finding the right combo of flywheel and clutch parts to make it work is just a Google search away. If you're bolting one of these up to an LS4, it's required that you know how to do a transaxle swap quickly anyway... and axles, since you're gonna be snapping CV joints left and right. The somewhat beefier Getrag F35 showed up in the Ion Redline, Cobalt SS, and HHR SS, but finding one of those is like finding the needle in a haystack today. Fairly sure it had the same bellhousing pattern. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 06:05 on May 20, 2020 |
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I am, but those are all fwd and not really a surprise. The one I mentioned is a fwd transverse engine bolted to a longitudinal red/4wd trans using all factory parts.Fornax Disaster posted:And the Olds, Buick and Pontiac 455s are also completely distinct engine designs from each other. I'm sorry WHAT They... Seriously built 3 completely different 455s AND the 454? What the absolute gently caress
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Chevy, Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac all also built their own, unique 350s. And if you define a big block as an engine "capable of reaching comfortably over 400 cubic inches with a bore spacing of at least 4.500 inches" the Chevy and Buick 350s would be considered small blocks and the other two big blocks. I know technically nobody uses "Big Block" in relation to Pontiac because the 301, 303, 326, 350, 389, 400, 421, 428 and 455 are all the same block. But if you use that universal definition it does fit. edit: Almost forgot, Chevy produced a 400 ci small block and a 402 ci big block simultaneously. 1970-72. Q_res fucked around with this message at 06:30 on May 20, 2020 |
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kastein posted:I've been beaten. Sadly auto makers aren't on board with this, though industrial marine and commercial trucking are. I only know that because of your megatruck engine shenanigans. How are you thinking of getting that cross country if you get everything else in a trailer?
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Chevy, Olds, Buick and Pontiac V8 are all entirely different. Olds, Buick and Pontiac share the bellhousing pattern so you can interchange the trans but that is about it. Want to use a chevy distributor in a Pontiac? Nope they turn different directions. All the engine mounts are different as well so you can’t just use a LS mount kit without modifying the frame mounts on most B bodies, A bodies there are kits since the frames are the same. Also the engine designs didn’t really stabilize until the mid 60s and for Pontiac at least there are 4 different intakes and head designs from 1950 to 1965 and there are no aftermarket options for anything pre 1965. The other thing with Pontiac V8s is that because there is not big block and small block definition it is all one design you cannot use heads designed for a 389 and above to work on a 350 or below without chamfers due to the bore size on the smaller engines. This means Pontiac 350s are relatively cheap and anyone who wants power has to find a 65 to 68 389 or a 68 and up 400 to 455 if they want to be able to just bolt on speed parts. The tl;dr is if you have an old GM and want to hop up the engine just throw a SBC or BBC in it and enjoy the huge after market.
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Q_res posted:Chevy, Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac all also built their own, unique 350s. And if you define a big block as an engine "capable of reaching comfortably over 400 cubic inches with a bore spacing of at least 4.500 inches" the Chevy and Buick 350s would be considered small blocks and the other two big blocks. I know technically nobody uses "Big Block" in relation to Pontiac because the 301, 303, 326, 350, 389, 400, 421, 428 and 455 are all the same block. But if you use that universal definition it does fit. IIRC, the 402 was just some weirded out version of the 396 that got a slightly bigger bore or something right? And it was installed in "396" cars and called a 396, but it just happened to be 402ci instead was it not?
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