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Highwire posted:My theory is that Voodoo generated content and cred for himself with his constant hectoring of lurking players, including focusing on Pander - it creates an antagonistic relationship between them which is conducive to future bussing if required. However, Voodoo's Lurker Hammer really cemented it for me; after pulling the trigger on the vote leader rather than Pander (and there are other players with similarly low post counts), reseting the vote count before the deadline, and taking everything off the board, then running a train on Jammy. Ehhhhhhhhhh, I don't know I feel like it's definitely a back pocket role if you're scum, not blasting it off day one. Especially since you could use a bit sneakier.
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CCKeane posted:Ehhhhhhhhhh, I don't know I feel like it's definitely a back pocket role if you're scum, not blasting it off day one. Especially since you could use a bit sneakier. not to mention it would be super easy to coordinate and tell your scumbuds "hey i have a lurker vig so post a lot, my buckos" no need to make a scene in the thread
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May 24, 2020 22:18
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Dhaes posted:not to mention it would be super easy to coordinate and tell your scumbuds "hey i have a lurker vig so post a lot, my buckos" Yeah, I think that's where I am.
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May 24, 2020 22:19
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Dhaes posted:
i think im gonna be tonight's kill, high in the draft order + i'm nailing the scum team 
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May 24, 2020 22:28
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I think I’m not being clear. I wasn’t sure I was going to use my power day 1. I was checking postcounts off and on. Then I saw spoonsy, the person I was voting, was sitting right above pander. I was yelling at pander to post because I wanted to vig spoonsy. Treat it as an actual big shot and not just a lurker shot. If spoonsy starts posting and pander was posting might have held off. DY: I don’t know what to tell you about my role that you would believe. My PM doesn’t tell me votes are reset. If I had known that the night before I might have played it differently. I also didn’t know merk would post my role or I would have just come clean earlier. I wanted to keep some mystery so I could bluff the threat of more kills to the scum team.
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May 24, 2020 22:36
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Highwire posted:My theory is that Voodoo generated content and cred for himself with his constant hectoring of lurking players, including focusing on Pander - it creates an antagonistic relationship between them which is conducive to future bussing if required. However, Voodoo's Lurker Hammer really cemented it for me; after pulling the trigger on the vote leader rather than Pander (and there are other players with similarly low post counts), reseting the vote count before the deadline, and taking everything off the board, then running a train on Jammy. Where did I run a train on jammy? I wanted to vote Chili. I wanted to big spoonsy and vote Chili which was the whole reason to get pander to 12 posts before spoonsy posted again You can look and see the two people I wanted were spoonsy and Chili well before I realized spoonsy might be eligible for the kill.
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May 24, 2020 22:39
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The safest time to use the Voodoofly power as scum is on Day 1 when you know its not going to hit a member of your team. Here's some interesting information to corroborate my theory:- The Voodoofly power can only be used on the player with the lowest in-game vote count. Lets look at the post counts of Spoonsy and Pander from the start of the game, shall we?  So, Voodoo hectors Pander because if he Gavels him its game over, and then AS SOON as Pander gets 1 post over Spoonsy, making Spoonsy the lowest vote count player, Voodoo gavels him. Voodood is scum, Pander is scum.
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May 24, 2020 22:42
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dy. posted:Killing a townie and forcing a no-lynch isn't really worth a big gambit: the scum were already well on their way to getting a townie (Spoonsy) lunched without the need for a big gambit. That would have numerically put them in the position that you're proposing without the risk of the gavel. You don't think it was worth it? We're behind two townies - likely three, once night actions are all said and done - which put the scum at a big numerical advantage going into day 2. Pander and Voodoo both look kind of bad as a result, but perhaps they figured they could talk their way out of it... dy. posted:The way Voodoo played it, immediately on Day 1, and before anyone really has the chance to even be a lurker, doesn't make a lot of sense. ...and thinking about it some more, I think this is the reason why they tried the gambit out. By using his power so early, Voodoo can lean hard on his disdain for lurkers to excuse his actions, even going on what appears to be a late night posting binge about it. By playing up this fake rationale to vig the lurker that he wanted to die, he's trying to dismiss his actions as sloppy, and also leaning against a misunderstanding about his role's mechanics to further cloud his real motivation. I'm not buying that it's just sloppy town play.
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May 24, 2020 22:43
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Highwire posted:The safest time to use the Voodoofly power as scum is on Day 1 when you know its not going to hit a member of your team. i get what you're saying dude, i really do but your logic fuckin sucks tell me why he would badger pander in the thread instead of the scumdoc or whatever they are using
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May 24, 2020 22:46
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Also if pander is scum I just shoot jammy yesterday and go “gently caress yeah die lurkers die” because jammy was the lowest player for a while. I wanted to vig spoonsy for the same reason I wanted to vote him. I was wrong. I have no clue if pander is scum I just thought spoonsy s posts were scummy, at least as good as you can find day 1. As cidrick pointed out he was the vote leader so I wasn’t alone thinking that. I was hoping we could all then vote Chili after.
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May 24, 2020 22:52
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Dhaes posted:tell me why he would badger pander in the thread instead of the scumdoc or whatever they are using Yeah... I honestly don't have a good answer to this, short of "for funsies" or "the scum aren't communicating at all".
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May 24, 2020 22:53
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here is my thought process: if i was a scum with the role of voodoofly: Dhaes as scum in the scum doc posted:sup buckos i have a lurker lynch so post a lot and ill kill whoever is at the bottom of the post count it'll be sweet my scumbuds posted:oh thats cool ill make sure i post a lot, even if i suck frosted butts im still going to check the scumdoc at least once and i see that you've said this scum team posted:lol this will be sweet lets go get some malted chocolate shakes and celebrate how awesome we are for using even the slightest bit of coordination also we're bad and evil highwires conspiracy theory is dumb
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May 24, 2020 22:59
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Dhaes posted:merk: is night going to be over once you get all actions or do we have a set time for day 2 to start Once I get all actions.
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May 24, 2020 23:06
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I did string give voodoofly his role. The votes resetting but day continuing thing came today rather than in his initial PM.
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May 24, 2020 23:07
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Voodoofly posted:PANDER POST POST POST POST POST POST For what its worth this is when I discovered that my kill resets votes. 6:21am. I decided I would give pander until 7:00am, three hours from deadline, to start posting. I might have killed him if he didn't or might have held the kill, not really sure. He started posting at before 7:00. Probably not going talk about it more because I don't think my kill makes me town or anything, but I think people are looking at it very wrong. This was all about realizing I could kill spoonsy, the person I was voting, and then vote someone else I found scummy, if Pander would just loving post like 8 more posts. Highwire: I'm almost offended you think I didn't kill Spoonsy the minute I could. I drat well knew the post-count the entire morning, and that Pander and Spoonsy both made 2 posts before day 1 started so I could rely on the postcount total. It was just hitting F5 nonstop once Pander showed up until he finally made his whopping 8 posts that he needed to pass Spoonsy.
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May 24, 2020 23:09
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Voodoofly posted:For what its worth this is when I discovered that my kill resets votes. 6:21am. If that didn't offend Voodoofly, what will?! Personally I'm thinking pointing out that his local burrito place MAKES BAD BURRITOS.
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May 24, 2020 23:12
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Cidrick posted:You don't think it was worth it? We're behind two townies - likely three, once night actions are all said and done - which put the scum at a big numerical advantage going into day 2. Pander and Voodoo both look kind of bad as a result, but perhaps they figured they could talk their way out of it... How does getting two lunches hurt the town? You can't count on the vig (or me) being town. Any extra shots the town has to vote a player out, even on day 1, helps. Trying to kill Spoonsy was trying to give us an extra shot on Day 1 because even if someone else gets excuted, and he doesn't show up anyway, we just talk about him all over again Day 2 and don't move on.
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May 24, 2020 23:13
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CCKeane posted:If that didn't offend Voodoofly, what will?! I live in San Francisco a few blocks out of the Mission. I have a hundred local spots that make decent to great burritos. They just cost twice what a good burrito should cost and I was always more of a taco person anyway coming from Los Angeles.
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May 24, 2020 23:16
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Voodoofly posted:I live in San Francisco a few blocks out of the Mission. I have a hundred local spots that make decent to great burritos. They just cost twice what a good burrito should cost and I was always more of a taco person anyway coming from Los Angeles. California has five baseball teams and only one of them is any good.
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May 24, 2020 23:18
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CCKeane posted:California has five baseball teams and only one of them is any good. That team is the Modesto Nuts.
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May 24, 2020 23:19
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CCKeane posted:California has five baseball teams and only one of them is any good. My mom named me thinking A.J. Thompson would be a great third baseman's name. I've played half an inning, tops, of organized baseball. Keep trying.
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May 24, 2020 23:20
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I went to California once for a dental convention and let me tell you: The Dental Appliance Industry of California is VERY SLOW MOVING on getting business done.
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May 24, 2020 23:45
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Highwire, Town, Cop has been killed. Day 2.
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May 25, 2020 00:25
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Votecount for Day 2 Not Voting (10): b-minus1, CCKeane, Chili, Cidrick, Dhaes, dy., Hal Incandenza, Pander, Voodoofly, wins32767With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 27th, 2020 at 6 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 2 days, 22 hours.
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May 25, 2020 00:30
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well i am just shocked i dont suppose a watcher saw him get killed?
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May 25, 2020 00:52
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Jeeze
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May 25, 2020 00:53
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chilli hal b-1, good with those 3 ##vote chili
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May 25, 2020 00:53
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I'm sad that Highwire is dead, I was excited to play with him. Now that he can't respond in thread, I would like to tell the true story that I went to the UK and asked if he wanted to meet up and he said he'd rather throw up than be in my presence, it was very rude.
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May 25, 2020 00:54
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Dhaes posted:chilli hal b-1, good with those 3 Sorry, I’m not scum.
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May 25, 2020 00:54
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actually this is my preferred ##vote b-1 worst nothing post history is the history of mafia <-- coming from king shitpost
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May 25, 2020 00:55
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b-minus1 posted:Sorry, I’m not scum. fuckin do something then, convince me otherwise
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May 25, 2020 00:56
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This is really going very poorly.
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May 25, 2020 01:07
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THE DOCTOR'S SCUM I'M CALLING IT.
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May 25, 2020 01:08
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CCKeane posted:THE DOCTOR'S SCUM I'M CALLING IT. No joke. I almost made this post but decided it would go over poorly
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May 25, 2020 01:19
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b-minus1 posted:No joke. I almost made this post but decided it would go over poorly gently caress IT I'M GOING FOR IT.
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May 25, 2020 01:19
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Mainly because of this post Dhaes posted:well i am just shocked Something about this post pings me. It’s like he already is aware that a watcher has no result that would implicate scum in the night kill High wire clearly knew he had a target on his back so it is a little odd that he didn’t get any protection.
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May 25, 2020 01:23
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Dhaes thats just wrong
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May 25, 2020 01:31
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b-minus1 posted:Mainly because of this post really? this is omgus af tell me this: why wouldnt be in the town's best interest for a watcher that saw him get killed to spill it?
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May 25, 2020 01:40
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Hal Incandenza posted:Dhaes thats just wrong you too buddy, do something. show dont tell.
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gently caress it imma case you up
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