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TheBizzness posted:I actually think the first movie gets a bad rap. I understand the problems people have with it, but it has a couple decent jump scares (one all-timer) and I really enjoy the atmosphere and sound design. I agree - it's definitely not a great movie, and it feels a little hollow going into it knowing who the killer is, but there's some good stuff in there including the absolute best corpse-through-window throw in the entire series.
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Franchescanado posted:Every horror challenge there is usually one person who watches the series for the first time, and they are almost always positive experiences. Not that they like each movie, cuz inevitably there's a few that don't work for the viewer, but I can't think of one where the person said "I wish I hadn't done this, this series blows." Usually the most damning is "They were fun and enjoyable, I'm glad I watched it, even though they aren't my favorite." Way to make a guy feel invisible.
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STAC Goat posted:Way to make a guy feel invisible. You're why Universal isn't here, hush
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Burkion posted:You're why Universal isn't here, hush The ONE time people listen to my longwinded nonsense!
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May 28, 2020 22:05
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STAC Goat posted:Way to make a guy feel invisible. Hahaha, my bad. I made the post without pulling open the thread and checking, so it was flippant of me! You are valued and loved.
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May 28, 2020 22:29
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Evil dead is gonna win this whole thing and it should. Not a bad piece of media in the whole series and introduced a lot of us to weirdo independent horror filmmaking. I have a lot of love for original Halloween but that series along with Friday has way too much trash. I’ll always have a soft spot for Raimi as a manic, innovative, cheesy comedy, campy, visually assaulting auteur.
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May 29, 2020 05:05
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Evil Dead is a clear winner over Halloween, no question, but it by no means should beat Romero. All Evil Dead has going over Romero is a mythic consistency that shouldn't be taken as a given and a very strong protagonist. Its influence as indie horror isn't as important when it's going against one of the most important independent films ever made.
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May 29, 2020 11:09
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WeaponX posted:Evil dead is gonna win this whole thing and it should. Not a bad piece of media in the whole series and introduced a lot of us to weirdo independent horror filmmaking. I have a lot of love for original Halloween but that series along with Friday has way too much trash. I’ll always have a soft spot for Raimi as a manic, innovative, cheesy comedy, campy, visually assaulting auteur. I know goons have the biggest hardon for it, but not at the expense of Romero. Surely? 
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I could go either way on Romero vs Evil Dead. NotLD is untouchable and there's no arguing it's an important and highly influential film, possibly more so than any other single movie that has been discussed in this thread. Dead/Day are both excellent as well, although I'm a little less hot on Day than some others are. Land/Survival are fine, although I think Diary is garbage. The Savini remake is good, and I enjoy the Snyder Dawn too. However - Evil Dead is much more important to me personally than NotLD is. Evil Dead II is the film that made me fall in love with the horror genre, and it's my favorite out of any film in this bracket. Army of Darkness is the weakest point in the franchise, but that's not because it's bad (it's a solid B), it's just being compared to some of the greatest horror films ever made. So yeah, sorry Romero, this tournament isn't about the best film or the most influential one - it's about the greatest franchise, and my heart says Evil Dead.
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May 29, 2020 14:29
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Not sure why everyone seems to be assuming that Evil Dead is going to the finals. It has some vocal supporters but I still think Halloween has a very good shot to win the matchup.
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May 29, 2020 14:42
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As long as Jason doesn't win I'm happy. But ultimately I think the end result of this is going to be all of us looking at the full bracket and going "Yeah, okay, that makes sense."
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Basebf555 posted:Not sure why everyone seems to be assuming that Evil Dead is going to the finals. It has some vocal supporters but I still think Halloween has a very good shot to win the matchup. oops, for some reason I thought that was the match-up for this round. Halloween vs Evil Dead is a much easier decision for me. All four of the franchises still in the game are strong contenders but Halloween is my least favorite of them.
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May 29, 2020 14:48
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Y'all are talkin like notld v evil dead is a lock but if you want Romero in the finals y'all better start voting that way, just sayin
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May 29, 2020 15:03
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Jason will annihilate all comers.
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I'm just bored of talking about Friday the 13th. Vote Romero, it's the ethical choice.
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Shrecknet posted:Y'all are talkin like notld v evil dead is a lock but if you want Romero in the finals y'all better start voting that way, just sayin Also Jason doesn't want to win awards. Jason wouldn't vote for Jason. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 15:52 on May 29, 2020 |
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May 29, 2020 15:49
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Timeless Appeal posted:we need superdelegates in this poo poo Jason just wouldn’t vote.
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May 29, 2020 15:51
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Basebf555 posted:Jason will annihilate all comers. Ain't nobody round here coming at the moment, at least not in company.
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May 29, 2020 15:51
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Friday the 13th is a decent but unimpressive beer like Blue Point Evil Dead is a novelty cocktail in way too big a glass Living Dead is an Old Fashioned Halloween is a cold cup of coffee someone left on the copy machine Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 15:56 on May 29, 2020 |
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May 29, 2020 15:52
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Novelty cocktails are delicious and very alcoholic.
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Y'all dont even know the joy of randomly noticing some leftover coffee in your cup when you thought it was empty (that's all the good movies that Evil Dead inspired, and when Sam Raimi lets loose with a non ED movie) Heck, half of my coffee intake is from once used grounds with water left in the fridge for a couple hours (all the slashers inspired by Halloween/Friday) Romero invented coffee.
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May 29, 2020 16:00
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I think the coffee metaphor is apt, as long as it started out as a delicious cup of coffee, then a few minutes in you stirred it a bit so that the sugar and/or cream swirls up for another perfect sip, then it slowly gets colder and colder until you don't want it anymore. The final sip might be a bit better because the remaining sugar residue has built up, but it's not really worth it to drink it at that point. Friday the 13th is more like a warm, flat Coors. Like, conceptually it had potential to at least be a cold, refreshing, somewhat-neutral if not ideal beer, but nobody bothered chilling it and now it's skunky. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 16:08 on May 29, 2020 |
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May 29, 2020 16:06
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feedmyleg posted:Friday the 13th is more like a warm, flat Coors. Like, conceptually it had potential to at least be a cold, refreshing, somewhat-neutral if not ideal beer, but nobody bothered chilling it and now it's skunky. Not agreed. Friday the 13th delivered the formula reliably for many years, it's beer is the most consistently cold over the longest amount of time out of any of these franchises.
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feedmyleg posted:I think the coffee metaphor is apt, as long as it started out as a delicious cup of coffee, then a few minutes in you stirred it a bit so that the sugar and/or cream swirls up for another perfect sip, then it slowly gets colder and colder until you don't want it anymore. The final sip might be a bit better because the remaining sugar residue has built up, but it's not really worth it to drink it at that point. On further inspection, I think Evil Dead might actually be a Tom Collins.
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May 29, 2020 17:19
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In a hypothetical scenario where its Evil Dead vs Romero I have no idea which way I'm voting. But I don't believe that will happen. I'm resigned to our fate.
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Neither Halloween nor Friday have the same number of consistent hits as the Evil Dead or Living Dead series. Halloween especially just slumps hard after the first movie, and doesn't really come up for air until Rob Zombie gets involved. While Jason, as much as he's a sweet boy, never really gets his stand out, silver bullet film. Which is why I'm guessing there's so much debate over which Friday is the best, none of them really are. They all have problems except for Part 3 which is perfect in every way. So it absolutely should come down to Evil Dead vs Living Dead. In which case I'll be siding with Romero, but honestly that is going to be a super tight race. Unlike Evil Dead vs Jason, or Halloween vs Living Dead, which will just leave the slashers dead on arrival.
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BTW if it's not clear as actively pissed I was about Universal and how anxious I am about Romero winning, I'm the bitch who's going to be arguing for Friday over Evil Dead.
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May 30, 2020 14:56
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Man, you really dislike Evil Dead.
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Timeless Appeal posted:BTW if it's not clear as actively pissed I was about Universal and how anxious I am about Romero winning, I'm the bitch who's going to be arguing for Friday over Evil Dead. I want a Halloween vs. Friday finals matchup and I'll be voting for either one of them in the finals over Romero/Evil Dead, assuming they don't both make it there.
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If Jason gets to the final round, those who think 8 is the best film will be the first against the wall.
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SomeJazzyRat posted:If Jason gets to the final round, those who think 8 is the best film will be the first against the wall. So, no one?
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Sono posted:So, no one? lol you can’t be that naive
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Anyone who votes against NOTLD is a NARCSomeJazzyRat posted:If Jason gets to the final round, those who think 8 is the best film will be the first against the wall. Part 6 Part X Part 3 Part 4 Part 7 Part 8 Part Hell Part 2 Part 1 Part 5 Fuuuucking fight me Begun the Ranking Wars have Hollismason fucked around with this message at 22:17 on May 30, 2020 |
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Hollismason posted:Begun the Ranking Wars have
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david_a posted:I refuse while there is still a chance to put that tired series down. If the nightmare scenario of Halloween v F13 is the final, I’m all for drowning out the actual vote with a massive flame war of deciding which F13 is least bad. Too Late, you have already been conscripted into the war.
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Stop loving with this tired Friday bullshit and let's do it.... 1. Night of the Living Dead 2. Day of the Dead 3. Dawn of the Dead 4. Land of the Dead. 5. 2000s remake of Dawn 6. 1990s remake of Night 5. Diary of the Dead 6. Survival of the Dead 1. Evil Dead 2 2. Army of Darkness 3. Evil Dead Remake 5. Evil Dead OG
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Timeless Appeal posted:Stop loving with this tired Friday bullshit and let's do it.... This is a war crime
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I adore Romero, Dawn got me into horror movies and it’s a stone cold masterpiece. But in the end if I’m revisiting something it’s Raimi’s frantic, bizarre, kinetic vision over Romero’s flat, somber, methodical work. Also Evil Dead never debased itself with poo poo like Diary of the Dead. But these will both prolly lose before the final and it will be bullshit
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Timeless Appeal posted:Stop loving with this tired Friday bullshit and let's do it.... I don't see any point in ranking the Living Dead movies. It's just a straight progression of diminishing returns.
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WeaponX posted:I adore Romero, Dawn got me into horror movies and it’s a stone cold masterpiece. But in the end if I’m revisiting something it’s Raimi’s frantic, bizarre, kinetic vision over Romero’s flat, somber, methodical work. I'm not sure how you can describe Romero as flat, somber, and methodical. At his heart Romero is a quickfire, dynamic, improvisational, guerrilla filmmaker. If you watch Night and Dawn, and count the seconds between cuts, you'll find that he never lets the camera rest on any single image for more than six seconds max. He's a master of that rapid, kinetic, machinegun fire approach. He's just so good at creating pathos, and quiet emotional moments, that you'd be forgiven for thinking that his films are ponderous dramas. In reality he's the guy who gave us the blood pressure machine scene. He's a cinematic anarchist. One thing that Raimi has over Romero is that he uses those techniques with more dramatic flare, but with less depth I'd argue. He'll quick cut on the same image from various angles, and use supremely aggressive panning shots, but a lot of the editing in the non-horror moments is more flat and unaccented.
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