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fridge corn posted:I think a real time combat system suits Yakuza better but I would prefer a turn based system over the joke of a combat system the games currently have 
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Jesus I only held the record for like half an hour
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Jun 5, 2020 12:37
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Jun 5, 2020 12:43
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Jesus I only held the record for like half an hour Fridge corn can't be beaten for long. He worked to get to where he is.
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Jun 5, 2020 12:44
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The Judge Eyes series can keep the action combat while the main line switches to turn based (or something else entirely as long as it's good) and that's fine with me.
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Jun 5, 2020 12:44
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JBP posted:Fridge corn can't be beaten for long. He worked to get to where he is. CTH is cooking up something big. I can feel it
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Jun 5, 2020 12:47
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hahaha Oh man this gif perfectly sums up the content of a lot of reports I see. I love it! Quantum of Phallus posted:you need to revise that tier list I am thinking you are right!
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Jun 5, 2020 12:48
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Persona 5 Royal and Dragon Quest 11 didn't come out that long ago, why are people acting like turn-based games are some kind of ancient lost art form now?
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Jun 5, 2020 12:52
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fridge corn posted:I think a real time combat system suits Yakuza better but I would prefer a turn based system over the joke of a combat system the games currently have I can't call it because I haven't played the turn based one yet but I have always felt the combat in Yakuza would be great for a new Three Stooges game with some modification
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Jun 5, 2020 13:01
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Turn based combat is great and one of my favorite gameplay styles, but I immediately lose interest if the animations take too long. Thankfully it seems like most major turn-based games these days have pretty quick animations, or at least a way to speed them up. I haven’t seen too much Yakuza 7 gameplay (though I am definitely looking forward to it) but hopefully fights don’t drag on too much in that one. Yakuza has always secretly been a JRPG so the new system fits.
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Jun 5, 2020 13:28
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I can understand the position of the yakuza combat apologist as it is not the main draw of the series but if you are not as invested in the characters, storyline, or side stories as I was, then the failings of the combat system become much more apparent
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Jun 5, 2020 13:30
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Jesus I only held the record for like half an hour Your post was actually correct tho. fridge’s is just unbridled lunacy
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Jun 5, 2020 13:41
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Samurai Sanders posted:The Judge Eyes series can keep the action combat while the main line switches to turn based (or something else entirely as long as it's good) and that's fine with me. I’m not judging Yakuza 7s turn based combat until I try it, but going forward anything in the Yakuverse with real time combat needs to have a Bravely Default style option to switch it off. No more late game thug swarms, god dammit.
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Jun 5, 2020 13:56
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I just lose track of poo poo now in these sprawling 100+ hour games. I take breaks and come back and forget what I was even doing. people who get "burnt out" on games with "too much content" always confuse me because like.. you know you don't have to do any side poo poo, right? I replayed HZD earlier this year and my total play time was like 20-25 hours or something because I did pretty much no sidequests (except the bandit camps, because Nil is the best), and that was WITH doing the DLC before the end. I know there are some people who just can't resist, but HZD is not a long game if you're just in it for the main story, and that's the case with a lot of open world games.
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Jun 5, 2020 13:57
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While I tend to agree, the two best open world games are BotW (almost no story at all) or The Witcher 3 (basically the equivalent of 5 seasons of an HBO prestige drama) so it’s really up to the developers to figure out how to keep players engaged without compromising their vision
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Bust Rodd posted:While I tend to agree, the two best open world games are BotW (almost no story at all) or The Witcher 3 (basically the equivalent of 5 seasons of an HBO prestige drama) so it’s really up to the developers to figure out how to keep players engaged without compromising their vision 
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Jun 5, 2020 14:07
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morallyobjected posted:people who get "burnt out" on games with "too much content" always confuse me because like.. you know you don't have to do any side poo poo, right? I replayed HZD earlier this year and my total play time was like 20-25 hours or something because I did pretty much no sidequests (except the bandit camps, because Nil is the best), and that was WITH doing the DLC before the end. You're right, but for me what tends to happen is that I hit a "wall". I'll be doing tons of side stuff, maybe grinding for XP or equipment, maybe an inkling towards going for the plat, and then all of a sudden it's like wow, what am I doing, let's finish this game and move on. And unfortunately that's a hard thing to anticipate.
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Jun 5, 2020 14:21
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Samurai Sanders posted:The Judge Eyes series can keep the action combat while the main line switches to turn based (or something else entirely as long as it's good) and that's fine with me. There's more than one Judgment game?
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Jun 5, 2020 14:23
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I got burnt out on hzd because I was stupidly doing the bad content thinking that was the game rather than just enjoying the story.
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Jun 5, 2020 14:28
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ExCruceLeo posted:There's more than one Judgment game? Hopefully.....
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Jun 5, 2020 14:34
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Yeah, I wondered myself if, going forward, it would be Judgment games set in Kamurocho with action combat, and Yakuza games set in whereever 7 is mainly set with turn based combat. I love yakuza games and I like turn based combat well enough so I'm broadly okay with that if it was the plan. I've not played 7 yet, but I just need to finish 5 and I'll have finished all the yakuza games with western PS4 releases (yes, including Fist of the North Star, which I'd rate as "fine" overall).
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Jun 5, 2020 15:12
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Sakurazuka posted:Hopefully.....
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Jun 5, 2020 15:18
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Is there is a Discord for this thread?
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owl_pellet posted:Is there is a Discord for this thread? the thread is the discourse.
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hail eris
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exquisite tea posted:I don't know if I can agree. Spider-Man is one of the most egregious examples of "so you thought you were done with the collectibles, now here's 7 more types of them, all in places you already had to visit to get the first 7 sets of collectibles." Yeah, granted - but I guess I see those as just another excuse to swing through the city, and given that they're on the map and marked by light shooting into the sky they're not exactly fiddly. I'm thinking more about (to use the most recent examples I've played) GoW or TLOU, where you never want to just follow the quest marker or go the obvious route, because otherwise you might miss the chest with resources in it. Maybe I'm doing it wrong (I'm probably doing it wrong), but I think THAT kind of resource gathering or exploration is kind of inelegant, as it kind of incentivises sprinting around the perimeter of every area/room just in case you missed something, and also breaks immersion a little, as sometimes an NPC can be like "follow me! urgently! now!" and you're all like 'hold up a sec just need to open all these cupboards". Again, maybe this says more about me than the actual game design...
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wait beside the backpacks what collectibles did spider-man have? Or are you referring to the drone challenges, crimes, and combat challenges as collectibles? That seems like totally separate things to me. When I think of Collectibles I think you mean Banjo Kazooie.
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Jun 5, 2020 16:08
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Bust Rodd posted:wait beside the backpacks what collectibles did spider-man have? it had a ton of collectibles beside the backpack, the newspapers, jjj stuff, audio recording, photo ops, secret photos ops, the tokens, the outfits and gently caress yeah i got every last one of them baby.
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Jun 5, 2020 16:15
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do you remember playing spider-man ps4 for the first time, thinking man i hope it isnt as bad as its probably gonna be and then the game went out of its loving way to be incredible in both storytelling, playable cinematics, characters, setpieces AND gameplay.
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No, but I don't play games assuming they're going to be bad
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oh word you are correct. I didn't remeber any of that, but I have the plat so I mustve gotten em all lol. I just remeber the awesome story and incredible gameplay. I wouldn't be surprised if there were flaws i wouldn't have forgiven in less fun games.
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Sakurazuka posted:No, but I don't play games assuming they're going to be bad the best way to do it, always some good to come out of it. think sometimes i still get discouraged by over-hype or some other dumb bullshit.
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I did not like yakuza Kiwani and never played any of the others because of it.
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Mr Hootington posted:I did not like yakuza Kiwani and never played any of the others because of it. 0 is like ten times better than Kiwani 1.
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The Perfect Element posted:Yeah, granted - but I guess I see those as just another excuse to swing through the city, and given that they're on the map and marked by light shooting into the sky they're not exactly fiddly. This is the huge difference in me playing Uncharted 4 and then immediately going into FF7R. I knew from past Uncharted games that I didn't give a poo poo about finding the hidden treasures and it was nice going through the levels linearly and matching the pace of the story. Whereas in FF7R it's exactly what you're taking about where the path I'm supposed to follow is the one I avoid for as long as possible looking through every nook and cranny because otherwise good and important stuff is missed.
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PS5/PC Bloodborne remaster appears to be the first sprung leak from the delayed presentation
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Im itching to pick up something from the days of play sale, in the threads opinion, which is the best sequel? -South Park 2 -Shadow of War -Wolfenstein 2 I really enjoyed the first iteration of either of these, but im not sure what to grab.
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PacoPepe posted:Im itching to pick up something from the days of play sale, in the threads opinion, which is the best sequel? I think most goons will tell you that each of these three games suffer from diminishing returns, but I really enjoyed Wolf 2 and that would be my pick.
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man nurse posted:I think most goons will tell you that each of these three games suffer from diminishing returns I agree. I've only played Shadow of War and Wolfenstein 2, but of those two I would pick Shadow of War.
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PacoPepe posted:Im itching to pick up something from the days of play sale, in the threads opinion, which is the best sequel? I'm playing through Shadow of War and be aware; this game was designed to be played with loot boxes, and now that they don't exist you can get some serious balance and difficulty issues (I had to bump it down to easy). The challenge seems to be less "how can you exploit this captains only weakness" and more "how can you get Talion to do what you want him to do while surrounded by a literally infinite stream of orcs"
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