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AIUI Panda was basically willing to lose some money on TNA (basically a drop in the bucket) in order to keep Dixie busy and away from their real businesses, until they tried leaving Universal Studios and taking the show on the road. The losses from that were so calamitous that Panda started demanding cutbacks, which is when they lost Hogan and a bunch of their other stars, and so at the same time the merch dried up. And it was STILL a long time before Carter was gone. TNA may at this point never die but I think that was really the end of TNA as we know it. Now it's just one indy among many, trying to remove the toxicity of their brand with mixed results.
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I don't know how much I buy the "panda put money into TNA to keep Dixie away" thing. Bob Carter clearly supported it and it wasn't as if Dixie was some incompetent nobody before she came on with TNA. She had a pretty solid marketing and representation agency book of business going before she came on board.
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Maxwell Lord posted:AIUI Panda was basically willing to lose some money on TNA (basically a drop in the bucket) in order to keep Dixie busy and away from their real businesses, until they tried leaving Universal Studios and taking the show on the road. The losses from that were so calamitous that Panda started demanding cutbacks, which is when they lost Hogan and a bunch of their other stars, and so at the same time the merch dried up. And it was STILL a long time before Carter was gone. This isnt remotely true. Dixie had her own talent agency that she ran before TNA and Panda was free and clear from her involvement.
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TNA has lived almost 8 more years than WCW. It’s crazy that TNA has been scientifically proven to be better than WCW was, but science isn’t about your feelings. Bischoff and Russo were able to murder WCW but TNA survived their attempts because it’s just too sweet.
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And now its a really fun product which no one watches.
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MassRafTer posted:This isnt remotely true. Dixie had her own talent agency that she ran before TNA and Panda was free and clear from her involvement. Weren't they a music agency in Nashville that didn't have a single country act booked? Yeah I'm sure they were keeping in the black with no help from daddy.
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Tato posted:TNA has lived almost 8 more years than WCW. It’s crazy that TNA has been scientifically proven to be better than WCW was, but science isn’t about your feelings. Is it? WCW was just a bought out Jim Crockett Promotions. TNA was bought out 3 months into its lifespan. It almost gets shut down in 2005 but the Spike deal saves it (and months later turn down an offer from Morphoplex to buy it.) By 2009 Panda has lost 95 million dollars on the company, in 2013 they have to shoot down rumors of a sale when they were in talks with Toby Keith. Then around 2015 they sell a portion to Aroluxe, and in the next year they bring on Corgan as an investor, dissolve the original TNA company, form a new company and sell to Anthem. It's not even technically the same company anymore on top of the name change. But it's still TNA.
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Theseus' Nonstop Action
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TNA is weird disease you can get, formerly known as Ian Rotten Syndrome.
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I tend to see TNA and WCW as just different phases of a long-existing curse.
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Grendels Dad posted:Theseus' Nonstop Action
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Maxwell Lord posted:I tend to see TNA and WCW as just different phases of a long-existing curse. That's not fair to WCW, they actually had a peak. TNA started at ground level and just went lower and lower
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WCW was Ninja Turtles, TNA was Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze, and Impact is Ninja Turtles III. If anyone wants to kick my rear end for this post I understand.
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Does that make AEW the Megan Fox movies? I'm not sure I fully grasp this concept.
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I dunno, I never saw those ones.
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Which was the one with Vanilla Ice?
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Sandman McMahon posted:WCW was Ninja Turtles, TNA was Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze, and Impact is Ninja Turtles III. Turtles II does not even deserve this. Not even the sequels do.
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like WCW, the original TMNT movie was rad as gently caress. the sequel was pretty good too but it didn't stray from what worked. III was just bonkers. We were not prepared.
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Secret of the Ooze absolutely strayed from what worked for the first movie.
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The one week period they were Global Force Wrestling = TMNT - The Next Mutation
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Sandman McMahon posted:WCW was Ninja Turtles, TNA was Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze, and Impact is Ninja Turtles III. I always feel like I dreamed Turtles III
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Sandman McMahon posted:WCW was Ninja Turtles, TNA was Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze, and Impact is Ninja Turtles III. Nah. WCW started as TNMT, gradually became TNMT II as it got staler, then became TMNT III in 1999 and stayed there (I guess 2001 can be that cartoon sequel, which I heard was better than TMNT III?). TNA/Impact is the Michael Bay reboot.
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oh but seriously I posted:I always feel like I dreamed Turtles III And that’s why I think the comparison works. I still don’t really believe people when they say Impact is a thing that continues to exist. Like wtf?
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WCW - an idea probably thought up after a line of coke TMNT - 2 bong rips and 30 minutes of hushed laughter(can't wake the neighbors dude), they came into being.
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521 pages in and my biggest take away from this thread is... drugs are good?
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Really stupid thought experiment, if the only part of human culture that aliens had of us was the complete run of WCW, what would they be learn about us and what would they think?
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Maigius posted:Really stupid thought experiment, if the only part of human culture that aliens had of us was the complete run of WCW, what would they be learn about us and what would they think? I'm pretty sure it'd get the human race wiped out just because nearly all the scenarios I can think of end up with aliens freaking out and throwing our whole planet in the sun. -they review the footage, believe us to be too dangerous for our own good. boom sun. -they review the footage, thinking it harmless until their children revolt with two sweeting and irish whipping each other off bridges. boom sun as retaliation. -they review the footage, have a religious experience, existing religious authorities throw the afflicted planet into their sun. They throw us into our sun for good measure.
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They review the footage, realize that the nWo is too sweet, and then begin turning on each other, leading to an epic alien civil war full of run-ins and constant double crosses.
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Tato posted:They review the footage, realize that the nWo is too sweet, and then begin turning on each other, leading to an epic alien civil war full of run-ins and constant double crosses. a fringe group, believing that destroying the root cause will bring about an era of peace launches an unsuspecting earth into the sun. This goes unremarked and unremembered until stellar archaeologists work out that the solar system's wobble is due to a missing stellar body. A space statue is erected. Ric Flair's leering grin now greets visitors to the last known orbit of Earth.
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YAH YAH YAH COCONONO YAH YAH YAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBCxS-c3EdE
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Maigius posted:Really stupid thought experiment, if the only part of human culture that aliens had of us was the complete run of WCW, what would they be learn about us and what would they think? At first they would probably think “we should gently caress this planet up and steal all their poo poo”, but then they’d get to the part with Big Poppa Pump and be all like “holy poo poo turn the gently caress around”.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:YAH YAH YAH COCONONO YAH YAH YAY holy poo poo that song is terrible
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Don’t blame me, it’s coconono’s theme song.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Don’t blame me, it’s coconono’s theme song. yeah I kinda like it. Not sure where I picked up the minstrel tho.
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Kevin Nash showed up for all of 5 minutes at the end of the show, to job to the stars and collect a paycheck. Am I talking about TMNT or a WCW show?
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Kevin Nash showed up for all of 5 minutes at the end of the show, to job to the stars and collect a paycheck. Am I talking about TMNT or a WCW show? TMNT, Big Sexy doesn't job in WCW.
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Maigius posted:TMNT, Big Sexy doesn't job in WCW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhS4ZDnRqJQ  Edit: After one move of his own devising, Nash jobs to the star and afterwards four people celebrate together. Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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