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ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
"Open the pod bay doors HAL!"

*doors open 1 inch*

"chabuduo"

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yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle
Skynet with Chinese characteristics.

Teketeketeketeke
Mar 11, 2007


I am CCPO, fluent in over 5000 years of history

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

UltraRed posted:

"Open the pod bay doors HAL!"

*doors open 1 inch*

"chabuduo"

yaffle posted:

Skynet with Chinese characteristics.

Teketeketeketeke posted:

I am CCPO, fluent in over 5000 years of history

:lol:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


url posted:

"I subscribed to bumfights, and these fuckers have ruined my day"

Is maybe a better example.

Rufus?

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

yaffle posted:

Skynet with Chinese characteristics.

5g terminator army hivemind oops it rained humans win

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru
https://thediplomat.com/2020/06/china-isnt-losing-europe-yet/

China Isn’t Losing Europe Yet

Despite Beijing’s series of missteps, the real battle for influence has barely begun.

By Michito Tsuruoka

June 06, 2020

One of the most notable developments in Asia-Europe relations amid the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic is the rise of Beijing’s overt and covert diplomatic offensive vis-à-vis Europe. In fact, China’s increasingly assertive and threatening approach – sometimes called the “wolf warrior” diplomacy – has alarmed many Europeans, and there seems to be an emerging consensus that Beijing’s behavior in the midst of the pandemic has been mostly counterproductive, leading to the notion that China is losing Europe.

However, it is still too early to make that call. The argument that China is losing Europe could give the false impression that Europe is winning. The battle has barely begun and it will be a long and hard one.

It is certainly clear that Beijing’s heavy-handed strategy of intimidation has alienated many Europeans and damaged China’s public image in Europe. The EU’s foreign policy chief Josep Borrell warns of a “global battle of narratives” regarding the pandemic and criticizes Beijing’s attempt to “play on” differences between Europeans.

It was widely reported in April that Beijing had tried to use its influence to change the wording of the EU’s report on disinformation activities. Though Brussels insists that it did not change any wording because of pressure from China, there is now official acknowledgment that Beijing did make a series of interventions.

Immediately following this, another controversy erupted. At stake was the censorship by the Chinese authorities regarding an op-ed piece for the China Daily, authored by the EU Ambassador to China and 27 ambassadors of EU member states in Beijing. The China Daily, under the supervision of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, wanted to deleted a sentence on the origin of the pandemic as a condition to publish the article. The fact that the EU Delegation accepted the censorship ignited fierce criticism back in Europe from those appalled at what it meant for press freedom. There have been other instances of China’s assertive behavior in various parts of Europe, most notably in France, where the Chinese Embassy website posted a series of articles by an anonymous Chinese diplomat criticizing the way France and Europe have handled the pandemic.

What the recent developments show is that Beijing has scored a series of own goals. What Beijing has tried to do – particularly its efforts to whitewash its image as the source of the pandemic and the intimidation it deploys to silence criticism of China abroad – have largely proved counterproductive. Europe’s policy discourse on China is undergoing a structural shift and what could be termed as “business as usual” approach toward Beijing is becoming harder to sustain. Europe has indeed changed a lot. Most recently, the situation in Hong Kong reinforces this trend.

However, it is crucial to remember that a mere series of Chinese missteps can never be enough on their own for China to “lose” Europe. Much depends on the European side as well. There are four main areas to take into consideration.

First, we need to recognize that Beijing’s goal is no longer about winning the hearts and minds of European people (if ever it was). China’s practical goal now seems to be to ensure that there are enough number of people in important positions in Brussels and in national capitals who are prepared to compromise European values, such as fundamental freedoms, and accommodate China’ positions for the sake of maintaining economic relations with China.

Second, the battle in Europe between those who are prepared to lose China and safeguard Europe’s values and interests on the one hand and those determined to preserve current relations with China on the other is set to intensify in the coming months and years, including after the pandemic. Beijing is already a substantial player working behind the scenes on national governments and business communities, trying to exert influence in its favor. In addition, countries such as Hungary and Greece, as well as the post-Brexit U.K., are beginning to become new battlegrounds between the U.S. and China.

Third, ridiculing Beijing’s diplomatic missteps will not make Europe more resilient to Chinese pressure. Beijing is fully aware of Europe’s dependence on China, based on which it formulates its behavior vis-à-vis different countries in Europe. Therefore, the question as to how each country could decrease its vulnerability to China is becoming more acute. The concept of “strategic autonomy,” which originally emerged in the context of foreign policy and security, now seems to be expanding to the issue of the global supply chain of strategically important products, including medical equipment, at least in the short term.

Fourth, one of the biggest questions facing us now is whether Beijing’s heavy-handed approach to Europe is a desperate short-term reaction in response to the pandemic, or if it is the beginning of a “new normal.” Even if assuming that Beijing’s approach could change, its interest and goals in Europe will not, meaning that in either case this is going to be a long battle.

Before claiming that China is losing Europe, there are many challenges that Europe needs to address. Beijing has certainly not given up on Europe.

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
It’s the final countdown.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

In giant bullshit slapfights between insanely populous, and incredibly petty nations both actively involved in oppressing and genociding their muslim minorities:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/high-diplomacy-in-the-himalayas-as-china-india-step-down-from-fight-20200608-p550dd.html

China and India have backed away from their pointless petty territorial dispute. With nothing gained or lost, (either in territory nor reputation/face), by both countries.

Edit:
Unrelatedly
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/china-proclaims-xi-jinping-s-virus-triumph-in-coronavirus-review-20200608-p550dg.html

"China's fight against COVID-19 is extraordinary and should be remembered forever" - Xu Lin. Director of Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences.

I mean, he's right, just not in the way he thinks he is.

BrigadierSensible fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 8, 2020

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Huawei is going to activate their phones remotely to kill everyone.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Kharnifex posted:

Huawei is going to activate their phones remotely to kill everyone.



This looks like a parody headline

Mameluke
Aug 2, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Teketeketeketeke posted:

I am CCPO, fluent in over 5000 years of history

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Fojar38 posted:

This looks like a parody headline

It was originally a comment on women in the workplace in which he said, "Female workers need to go home when they have a heavy flow" but Baidu hosed up the translation.

sticksy
May 26, 2004
Nap Ghost

Teketeketeketeke posted:

I am CCPO, fluent in over 5000 years of history

This really should be the thread title, imo

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


sticksy posted:

This really should be the thread title, imo

Agreedo, lol

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Kharnifex posted:

Huawei is going to activate their phones remotely to kill everyone.



Don't cite the Daily Mail.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Fojar38 posted:

Those kids that Vader killed?

That was a really questionable example of product placement.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Don't cite the Daily Mail.

Does it matter if he said it?* Matches the increasing aggressive "Wolf Warrior Diplomacy".

*Based on the assumption the headline is true.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
As expected he said what he said is true sourced from WSJ. The headline is slightly misleading as per DM M.O. This was back in 2018 and was made re-relevant by the recent interview by WSJ.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52959644

quote:

The founder of Huawei, Ren Zhengfei was reported by the Wall Street Journal on Saturday to have told staff in 2018 that the company was in a battle with the US and they should "surge forward, killing as you go, to blaze us a trail of blood".

Asked about the language, Mr Zhang said it reflected a sense that Huawei was under intense attack from the United States.

"We are very vulnerable and we know America tried to attack Huawei with so called security reasons which are actually totally wrong," he said.

"It is simply because of trade and protectionism."

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Don't cite the Daily Mail.

Upon remote activation, the Huawei phone unfurls its legs, and venomous stinger, and attacks the user directly.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Honestly this is making me less likely to purchase a Huawei phone, they should rethink their marketing.

Hardon Crime
Jan 15, 2020

hubba hubba hubba hubba

Kharnifex posted:

Upon remote activation, the Huawei phone unfurls its legs, and venomous stinger, and attacks the user directly.

but does it support 5g

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Kharnifex posted:

Upon remote activation, the Huawei phone unfurls its legs, and venomous stinger, and attacks the user directly.

That was the coolest wasted part of Transformers

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

Teketeketeketeke posted:

I am CCPO, fluent in over 5000 years of history

lmao

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

interesting study looking for early evidence of the emergence of covid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iD0XdpSKxA

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Interesting.

News isn't a music video. The article is so much better it's not funny.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/satellite-data-suggests-coronavirus-hit-china-earlier-researchers/story?id=71123270

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsclXj2xgRQ

e: this is a video of a cow on black ice and the brave man who never stopped believing he could get the cow back in the truck

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
How do ypu get the truck out of the ditch once you get the cows back on the truck?

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Kharnifex posted:

Huawei is going to activate their phones remotely to kill everyone.

If it works as well as my Huawei P20 Pro in general, I'll get a mild headache for 5 seconds max.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

Der Shovel posted:

If it works as well as my Huawei P20 Pro in general, I'll get a mild headache for 5 seconds max.

Whenever I see a Pic of the Chinese Army mobilizing, I just think about how the MRE's give them all diarrhea.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Kharnifex posted:

Whenever I see a Pic of the Chinese Army mobilizing, I just think about how the MRE's give them all diarrhea.

Reminder that Steve of Steve1989MREInfo has eaten 100 year+ old rations and been fine, but got food poisoning twice from Chinese MREs made within a year or two of filming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96m5lB8nzA

I'm sure there's been dodgy things in other rations he hasn't felt comfortable eating, but it's amazing that a totalitarian state like China doesn't give a gently caress about feeding their soldiers safe food.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
This food conversation actually made me go to Stevewhatever's channel and search for Indian MRE reviews, but he has not done any. What do the Indian eat when they fight the Chinese in the middle of nothing poo poo mountain?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Der Shovel posted:

Reminder that Steve of Steve1989MREInfo has eaten 100 year+ old rations and been fine, but got food poisoning twice from Chinese MREs made within a year or two of filming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n96m5lB8nzA

I'm sure there's been dodgy things in other rations he hasn't felt comfortable eating, but it's amazing that a totalitarian state like China doesn't give a gently caress about feeding their soldiers safe food.

And as he talks about getting eColi and how green the spoilt meat is.... he eats it anyway.

Nice

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jun 9, 2020

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Quote is not EDIT

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



stephenthinkpad posted:

This food conversation actually made me go to Stevewhatever's channel and search for Indian MRE reviews, but he has not done any. What do the Indian eat when they fight the Chinese in the middle of nothing poo poo mountain?

Looks like pretty standard MREs, except of course with Indian cuisine.

https://drdo.gov.in/sites/default/files/inline-files/Writeup_MRE_Ration_Technology-converted.pdf


Humphreys posted:

And as he talks about getting eColi and how green the spoilt meat is.... he eats it anyway.

Nice

Steve suffers for his art.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm reminded of how curry apparently got big in Japan because of WW2 military rations?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


A huge amount of popular "traditional" Japanese food is the result of the US occupation and post-war rationing. Curry was adopted from the British Navy in the late 1800s, I'm not sure when it spread into the general population but knowing what I do about Japanese cuisine I'd guess post-war.

A ton of Japan's culture dates to the Meiji period and no further.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
curry was to reduce beriberi incidence

gen pop also had beriberi

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Grand Fromage posted:

A huge amount of popular "traditional" Japanese food is the result of the US occupation and post-war rationing. Curry was adopted from the British Navy in the late 1800s, I'm not sure when it spread into the general population but knowing what I do about Japanese cuisine I'd guess post-war.

A ton of Japan's culture dates to the Meiji period and no further.

Excuse me gaijin

5000 years of hentai

*posts that squid scroll*

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I seem to remember spam become a local cuisine ingredient due to WW2 rationing. It could be Thailand or some other country.

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