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Atticus_1354 posted:Did you say it like that? Because the entire point was that it wasnt their choice. Ehhh, at the risk of causing a derail, wife says that from the Hawaiian perspective, it's more complicated than that. Someone was going to claim them eventually, either Japan or China most likely, and at least America provides them with some form of safety via their military bases. There's some debate in Hawaii between "we were taken over by colonists" and "the Queen kind of sold us out." I have been told that while a lot of people hold the second view, it's the kind of thing you NEVER say out loud unless you're from there. Raptor1033 posted:They really should cause not only are they doing their own thing, the federal gov is largely neglecting the poo poo out of them. Isn't the big problem that now that white americans colonized them, the population is too big to be supported by local agriculture? Their population is majority Asian or mixed Asian races. From 2018's demographics: Asian: 37.75% White: 25.01% Two or more races: 24.03% Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 10.08% Black or African American: 1.85% The root problem is that the islands were never meant to support that many people in general. I asked how much influence "white people" have on Hawaii on a day-to-day basis for the people that live there, and she said "outside of tourism? Virtually none." I've also been told that while the wife obviously doesn't speak for everyone, in her experience, people from Hawaii really don't like it when people who don't live there/weren't born there/aren't Native Hawaiians try to tell them their history and how they do. Edit: As to not continue the derail, i'm going to see if she wants an account so she can start a thread in Ask/Tell for people's questions about Hawaii. We Got Us A Bread fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/suchnerve/status/1269448893714051072?s=20 Grammy cool.
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What ever happened to that Russian yourtube channel combatting lovely drivers and parkers? Were they silenced? 
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Humphreys posted:What ever happened to that Russian yourtube channel combatting lovely drivers and parkers? Were they silenced? Weren’t they Putin youth or some poo poo?
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 Popoto posted:Weren’t they Putin youth or some poo poo? That was the rumor I heard, don't know if it was reverse propaganda or double reverse thats-just-what-they-want-you-to-think propaganda 
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They're still around, their most recent upload was Friday. I think they changed channel names though, now they're SADB.
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We Got Us A Bread posted:I've also been told that while the wife obviously doesn't speak for everyone, in her experience, people from Hawaii really don't like it when people who don't live there/weren't born there/aren't Native Hawaiians try to tell them their history and how they do. Yeah that's what I was alluding to with "don't tell her about her own people's history of dance." People repeat the narrative as their parents told it to them, this is true for all people everywhere. You'd be amazed at how inaccurate people can understand their own history, but nobody responds well to hearing an outsider studied an issue more in-depth than they did themselves. My family's narrative was that the Daughters of the King were so honorable and valuable, they were chosen by the king himself to start the new colony! Like nearly royals! Lol nah, they're mostly destitute whores (ok now we know that's not necessarily true either), but it took learning about history, not talking to my Grandma, to learn about those details. After 35 posts about embedded videos from Twitter, 12 sentences about history won't kill anybody. Anyway here's some videos of people falling down https://i.imgur.com/rcSvCff.gifv https://i.imgur.com/9irh5Pl.gifv https://i.imgur.com/vKKBERl.gifv https://i.imgur.com/svnFAie.gifv Switchback fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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Slippery posted:He's far from stupid and isn't a piece of poo poo or war criminal The only reason Mathis isn't a convicted war criminal, is that he won.
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There was a lot of 'oh poor old Finland' talk about the Nazis ruining the swastika for them earlier, and I was just wondering if those people knew that Finland were allies of Nazi Germany?
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Oh hell yea, only democratic belligerent during the war I believe. Their prez even took the line that he'd never accept peace, and would resign first. Which he did. But they didn't get overrun and have their nation carved up piecemeal and nobody demonizes them, so something something history is written by the victors?
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Mostly when people talk about Finland in WWII they're sucking off the legend of Simo Hahya and ignoring the Nazi collusion.
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Memento posted:Mostly when people talk about Finland in WWII they're sucking off the legend of Simo Hahya and ignoring the Nazi collusion. They keep trying to finnish that narrative.
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Serephina posted:Oh hell yea, only democratic belligerent during the war I believe. Their prez even took the line that he'd never accept peace, and would resign first. Which he did. Finland didn't choose the StuG lyfe, the StuG lyfe chose Finland. Finland even rejoined the good guys near the end of the war. Hence the good press, I suppose.
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The way I heard it was that Finland was caught between the Nazis (who had Norway by that time) and the Soviet Union, and as soon as the Germans helped the Finns get what they wanted, the Finns pulled out as soon as they could.
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Basticle posted:holy poo poo, THANK YOU Anyone got this working on Firefox? Tried Settings -> Privacy & Security -> Cookie and Site Data -> Manage Permissions and added twitter.com, but that didn't work.
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Homeless Bebe posted:Anyone got this working on Firefox? Tried Settings -> Privacy & Security -> Cookie and Site Data -> Manage Permissions and added twitter.com, but that didn't work. I've never had a problem with embedded videos, but I edit: Correction: current settings are "delete cookies on exit" (saves whitelisted stuff), and "strict tracking protection". Firefox for all it's jank keeps rolling all my favorite plugins into default functionality, so I forget what I've customized every now and then. Serephina fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Jun 8, 2020 |
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CommissarMega posted:The way I heard it was that Finland was caught between the Nazis (who had Norway by that time) and the Soviet Union, and as soon as the Germans helped the Finns get what they wanted, the Finns pulled out as soon as they could. Kinda, after the Winter War (1939-40) there was about a year of peace. Germany promised Finland it would get back the territory it lost in that war (which displaced about 400,000 people) if Finland would ally with Germany. That was the only deal on the table at the time, so to speak. In 1944 Finland made an armistice with USSR and a part of those terms was evicting German soldiers from Finland. While initially this was done peacefully it included some very serious fighting and the Nazis burning most of the towns and cities in Lappland. So, Finland fought both for and against Nazi Germany.
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Ataxerxes posted:Kinda, after the Winter War (1939-40) there was about a year of peace. Germany promised Finland it would get back the territory it lost in that war (which displaced about 400,000 people) if Finland would ally with Germany. That was the only deal on the table at the time, so to speak. In 1944 Finland made an armistice with USSR and a part of those terms was evicting German soldiers from Finland. While initially this was done peacefully it included some very serious fighting and the Nazis burning most of the towns and cities in Lappland. So, Finland fought both for and against Nazi Germany. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that the Finns were fighting the USSR and the Nazi's were the only ones willing to help? Also the Finns should get a silver medal for helping to win WW2, since Germany saw how poorly the Russians did during the winter war and decided it'd be swell easy to invade gents.
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YggiDee posted:They're still around, their most recent upload was Friday. I think they changed channel names though, now they're SADB. Thankyou! Thread staple is back! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuHUrBOwvT0
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Tashilicious posted:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that the Finns were fighting the USSR and the Nazi's were the only ones willing to help? Considering that Finland sent jews to germany, not really
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The schad is the chain e-mail version of history from people itt
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EasilyConfused posted:The schad is the chain e-mail version of history from people itt well I guess it is a lot easier to just drive-by snipe at people than actually bother correcting them, huh
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Incel finally fingerblasts virgin.
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We Got Us A Bread posted:I've also been told that while the wife obviously doesn't speak for everyone, in her experience, people from Hawaii really don't like it when people who don't live there/weren't born there/aren't Native Hawaiians try to tell them their history and how they do.
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Zombear posted:Incel finally fingerblasts virgin.  Jesus wept, that's good
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gschmidl posted:https://twitter.com/LivePDDave1/status/1267473121738493957 Notorious antifa thug, God.
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Slippery posted:He's far from stupid and isn't a piece of poo poo or war criminal every marine is a moron; prove me wrong quote:After being promoted to lieutenant general, Mattis took command of Marine Corps Combat Development Command. On February 1, 2005, speaking at a forum in San Diego, he said "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling." Mattis's remarks sparked controversy; General Michael Hagee, commandant of the Marine Corps, issued a statement suggesting Mattis should have chosen his words more carefully but would not be disciplined
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I don't have time right now to make an effort post, but Finn Larry Thorne is worth a read. They made a movie about him. He hated Russia/Communism so bad that when the Finn's left the war, he joined the Nazi army. After WWII he joined the American Army to fight in Asia. He is the only person to have served in the SS buried in Arlington. Not a fan of his, just interesting story. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauri_T%C3%B6rni
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Memento posted:well I guess it is a lot easier to just drive-by snipe at people than actually bother correcting them, huh Ok, I totally deserved that. Here's a few corrections/observations: Decorus posted:Finland even rejoined the good guys near the end of the war. This is also true of all of Germany's other significant European allies (Italy, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria). CommissarMega posted:The way I heard it was that Finland was caught between the Nazis (who had Norway by that time) and the Soviet Union, and as soon as the Germans helped the Finns get what they wanted, the Finns pulled out as soon as they could. Germany occupied Norway in Spring 1940. The Winter War was 1939-1940. The second part is sort of accurate, they didn't "pull out," but they were reluctant to push beyond their pre-war boundaries. Tashilicious posted:Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say that the Finns were fighting the USSR and the Nazi's were the only ones willing to help? The Finns received virtually no support from Nazi Germany during the Winter War (remember, they were allied to the Soviet Union at the time). They did receive significant aid from the Western powers and Scandinavian countries. The poor performance of the Soviet Army in Finland certainly made Germany take the Soviets less seriously, but it's highly implausible that it had any impact on Hitler's decision to invade. Even the former is overrated, the Germany officer corps was thoroughly indoctrinated with the notion of German superiority over the sub-human Slavs. Andrast posted:Considering that Finland sent jews to germany, not really They sent 8 refugees. That's certainly not good, but it's a hell of a lot better than the record of countries like Switzerland, Hungary, Romania, etc.
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EasilyConfused posted:Ok, I totally deserved that. fair enough on the corrections ~
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LawfulWaffle posted:Just a probably ill-thought out post, but the Swastika is such a tragic icon to be co-opted by Nazis because it’s just 8 right angles. It’s such a simple design that it can and does show up all over the place for innocent reasons, but now those right angles in that arrangement is verboten. You can probably guess what the first diagram looked like. edit: Found the article, and they've nuked that image by now but you can still see the comments referencing it. https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/363491/changes-in-architectural-design-inevitable-in-post-covid-19-era/ The old header image still shows up in my Discord scrollback though. 
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