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The thing you gotta keep in mind when listening to poo poo like Milo Goes to College and similar era descendents albums is that they were written by loving kids so yeah, all the songs are about parents sucking, being a nice guy and girls not loving you, etc. It doesn't really speak to anything that we as adults encounter anymore, but goddamn they are just so good. And good people, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6RU6wIHfc <-- video from when they were still pretty much teens E: gently caress I forgot how good "cheer" is. When I was a kid we ordered these albums from the CCS skateboard catalog, no poo poo. Over the phone!
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Phlegmish posted:lol I never really liked Discharge so I wasn't aware of any of this. I don't know how it could happen for a loving punk band to be so technically bad that they get booed. Were they literally holding their instruments upside down instead of just figuratively? lol its even worse. discharge at their height were clearly just winging it most of the time, demonstrating a lack of understanding of the structures of their own songs live. but grave new world saw them go full hair metal, so it wasn't a question of them being technically inept at that point, but more that it was just awful. The new music, the new aesthetic, the refusal to play early stuff, they really just poo poo the bed in the most complete way conceivable for the pioneers of d-beat. discharge were never musically adept, but that's not what makes them appealing - if you want that, then anti-cimex is the answer. HR clearly has a mental illness, but they were all very rasta at the time, and between that and the sketchy beginnings of the nyhc scene homophobia was very common and embraced. john joseph from cro-mags formed a band bad brains + roadies called "bloodclot" that would sometimes open up local shows. those guys all dance around it, but if you want proof its pretty much everywhere when you read between the lines, or just read cro-mags lyrics. hell, raybeez was in a skinhead band before warzone and had a song called "bashing", and dedicated it to harley flanagan and their group of friends who would go out bashing - but no surprise there, harley was (and still is!) an avid skrewdriver fan. raybeez on the other hand went on to become a pretty hardcore krishna and positive force in the scene, a real turnaround for a guy who did home invasions on puerto rican immigrants. the real deal on bad brains' musical proficiency is that they were a real and accomplished reggae band; but one day they all saw Ramones play and decided to just go for it. Their eventual sound was just the result of playing faster and faster, but most of those songs that appear on Rock For Light had been workshopped since 78-79.
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Jun 8, 2020 17:11
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Didn't Bad Brains have a few songs that were blatantly homophobic like Don't Blow Bubbles?
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Jun 8, 2020 20:59
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CoffeeBooze posted:Didn't Bad Brains have a few songs that were blatantly homophobic like Don't Blow Bubbles? yeah, that too.
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Jun 8, 2020 21:10
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Never forget that pretty much anyone in the scene is, in some way, a huge piece of trash.
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Jun 8, 2020 21:43
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It seems like even the big name older bands all had some poo poo head associated with them. The Ramones had Johnny go off the deep end over baseball and Republican politics, Sex Pistols were the Sex Pistols, etc etc. Did The Clash have anyone go that way though? I dont remember ever hearing a bad word about those dudes over the years.
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Jun 8, 2020 22:21
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Joe strummer is good people afaik, but idk about the rest.
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But keep in mind the distinction that Ramones and sex pistols were nowhere close to the politics of the clash.
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Jun 8, 2020 22:27
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The Bad Brains chat got me to Google search HR, since I remember hearing somewhere that he was schizophrenic and living on the street. I guess he had major brain surgery in 2017 to treat a disorder nicknamed "suicide syndrome" due to the debilitating pain caused by severe cluster headaches. Seems like it must have gone okay, because he apparently released a new album last fall.
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Dixville posted:Who else loves punk rock? What qualifies as punk? Some say it ended in the 80s. I disagree but I see where they are coming from. I used to like this kind of stuff back in high school so I still have a lot of nostalgia for it. More recently I fell in with a pile of Montreal crust punks who were fun to do speed with until they weren't any more. A few have remained friends to this day but most of them are complete garbage and I'm glad to be rid of them. If you're at all familiar with the eastern canadian punk scene this word will mean something to you and you probably know what a complete dumpster fire it is. fattal
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WIZO is a very good punk rock band from Germany. They are goofy, yet extremely antifascist. You probably heard Raum der Zeit on Survival of the Fattest. Kopfschuss is an absolute loving banger of a song about police murder, so very timely. That guitar riff makes a fine soundtrack to throwing teargas back at the pigs.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:30
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I just realized that list has Screeching Weasel but not The Queers. How shameful. Although speaking of punk rock shitheads, the way Ben Weasel and all the other guys in his little orbit have turned out is pretty saddening. So many of the people who got started in that era should have retired a long time ago.
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neato burrito posted:Serious answer - Dillinger Four (the lead singer gets naked at live shows, that's pretty punk I guess) Dillinger Four are my favorite punk band and have probably the best political lyrics ever.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:40
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Plan Z posted:Dillinger Four are my favorite punk band and have probably the best political lyrics ever. Same. And they play incredibly tight for a bunch of drunk Minnesotans.
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Jun 8, 2020 23:42
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Dillinger four rules
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Jun 8, 2020 23:46
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Just a question: Did any of you guys notice how like half the people you hung out with and went to shows with and stuff became weird libertarians???
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Jun 8, 2020 23:47
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Literally A Person posted:Just a question: Did any of you guys notice how like half the people you hung out with and went to shows with and stuff became weird libertarians??? the ones that did all listened to pennywise and went to warped tour. sorry folks, pennywise is a cop band, so is bad religion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nImOq_eWHEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4cK0Bsl1wA
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Jun 8, 2020 23:50
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A Pack of Kobolds posted:WIZO is a very good punk rock band from Germany. They are goofy, yet extremely antifascist. Wizo has a couple of fun songs, but my favorite German band and one of my favorite punk bands in general is Slime: D.I.S.C.O. Yankees Raus Ich Will Nicht Werden Religion And of course they've also always hated the police: Polizei, SA, SS Bullenschweine Polizei, SA, SS owns and clocks in at almost exactly two minutes, it's the platonic ideal of a punk song. The theme has been decided by A Pack of Kobolds, everyone post your favorite anti-cop songs!!
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albany academy posted:the ones that did all listened to pennywise and went to warped tour. sorry folks, pennywise is a cop band, so is bad religion. howard devoto is a cool dude. spiral scratch buzzcocks were the best one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFzi-Hiik4A
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Someone a while back asked what our first show had been. One of my first punk shows was Oi Polloi, a Scottish anarcho-punk band with an environmentalist message that's been around forever, and that owns. Their music is all over the place, in a good way. I saw them at a squat in Leuven, way out of my depth at age 15. They also have some anti-police songs, naturally: Anti-Police Aggro ^ Used to be one of my favorite songs, and I still love it. It builds up with a languid intro, and then it's loving go time. Can't believe something like this was made by a bunch of grody Scottish punks who bathe every two weeks at most. Pigs For Slaughter ^ Amazing anti-cop anthem that they should constantly be playing at the protests in the US. If that doesn't get you pumped up you're dead inside. Gutter Phoenix posted:Skate & Destroy! Thought you were going to link the Faction song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7EkuGCfkYI I only know two of their songs, but I like the minimalistic verses that are just a frenetic bass and some drums. Snow Cone Capone posted:Also I'm gonna end up dodging some bricks and beer glasses for this one but gently caress it, middle-period AFI was/is awesome: Early AFI was a really solid punk band, and I'm not ashamed to admit there are a lot of songs from the beginning of their goth period that I like. albany academy posted:more songs about cops Covered by Contravene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgv9LPf1p-U Didn't even realize it was a cover until now. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Literally A Person posted:Just a question: Did any of you guys notice how like half the people you hung out with and went to shows with and stuff became weird libertarians??? A lot of the tough guys who were in it to feel powerful did. Pretty much anyone else is died-in-the-wool leftists, though.
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Plan Z posted:A lot of the tough guys who were in it to feel powerful did. Pretty much anyone else is died-in-the-wool leftists, though. Is this the distinction?
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Queercore? Don't forget Limp Wrist, for example this song about ~Rainbows~: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNY1Goww4vk Tedje en de Flikkers - Zwart Leer (Black Leather): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK65ykR2yBo albany academy posted:lol its even worse. discharge at their height were clearly just winging it most of the time, demonstrating a lack of understanding of the structures of their own songs live. but grave new world saw them go full hair metal, so it wasn't a question of them being technically inept at that point, but more that it was just awful. The new music, the new aesthetic, the refusal to play early stuff, they really just poo poo the bed in the most complete way conceivable for the pioneers of d-beat. discharge were never musically adept, but that's not what makes them appealing - if you want that, then anti-cimex is the answer. A lot of those early punk and hardcore bands turned to some form of heavy metal eventually, except usually really bad and uninspired metal. I always thought that was a weird decision to make. I liked those bands because of the soul and energy they put into their music, take that away and you're left with boring paint-by-numbers hard rock played by musicians that can't actually play all that well. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jun 9, 2020 |
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Literally A Person posted:Is this the distinction? Nah. The people who were actually paying attention became bad rear end nihilists.
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Jun 9, 2020 01:30
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Oh poo poo, what it I became a good natured socialist???
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Literally A Person posted:Oh poo poo, what it I became a good natured socialist??? 
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I’ve been listening to Punk since I was a little kid listening to my older brother’s Black Flag and Ramones tapes. My favorite album when I was eight was Misfit’s Static Age. There are two different types of DIY punk rock nowadays. Bands that sound like Devo and bands that sound like Discharge. Also does anybody remember when Folk Punk was a “thing”? Lmao
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Sex_Marxist posted:Also does anybody remember when Folk Punk was a “thing”? Lmao Justin Sane, noted dumbass, tried that poo poo for an album or two and it was seriously some of the most painful forced poo poo I have ever heard. 
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Literally A Person posted:Justin Sane, noted dumbass, tried that poo poo for an album or two and it was seriously some of the most painful forced poo poo I have ever heard. I have not listened to Anti-Flag since they endorsed Kerry in 2004 and even then I thought that was the lamest poo poo ever
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Sex_Marxist posted:I have not listened to Anti-Flag since they endorsed Kerry in 2004 and even then I thought that was the lamest poo poo ever refer back to my story about Anti-Flag at the beginning of the thread.
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Jun 9, 2020 01:46
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Would the Pogues count as folk punk? Because the Pogues rule.
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Sex_Marxist posted:I’ve been listening to Punk since I was a little kid listening to my older brother’s Black Flag and Ramones tapes. My favorite album when I was eight was Misfit’s Static Age. Static Age is a spicy meatball for a little kid.  Like a dry desert soaking up rain/Soaking up sun
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Sex_Marxist posted:I’ve been listening to Punk since I was a little kid listening to my older brother’s Black Flag and Ramones tapes. My favorite album when I was eight was Misfit’s Static Age. there's way more than that.
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Paddyo posted:Would the Pogues count as folk punk? Because the Pogues rule. Ive never really been clear on how The Pogues got classified as punk in the first place/. Maybe it was because of Shane' dental hygiene? But Im glad they did because thats how I first found their music. It seems like during the late 70s there was a tendency to just lump any band that didnt fit neatly into any other genre in with punk. It lead to some really great bands being called punk despite seemingly having no connection at all with the style. If the pogues are punk theyre definitely folk punk. Seriously, look at the variety of folk style instruments they utilized. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l14aDp-4NKk
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Jun 9, 2020 02:24
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Uh, if we're going down this road... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkkIwO_X4i4
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Jun 9, 2020 02:26
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Lets definitely go down that road. I never heard of those guys and I feel like I should have.
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Jun 9, 2020 02:34
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Shang-a-Lang is a great punk band that was always close to taking off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbH7B3quTr4
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CoffeeBooze posted:Lets definitely go down that road. I never heard of those guys and I feel like I should have. Seriously the best live show in underground music.
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Jun 9, 2020 02:42
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Folk punk is plan-it-x records. This bike is a pipe bomb etc
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Folk punk is the concept of someone bringing an out of tune acoustic to the house show and belting out some against me songs but as a band
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