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Billy Gnosis
May 18, 2006

Now is the time for us to gather together and celebrate those things that we like and think are fun.

twistedmentat posted:

I'd listen to a podcast that's Nina explaining Canadian TV and other pop culture to Bob and Henry.

How many hours of Canadian Heritage Minutes does Bob need to watch in order to legally immigrate?

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I watched The Zone more than I watched the shows on The Zone

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
I'd like them to do something British without the acclaim and international recognition of Wallace and Gromit, like Bananaman or something from Cosgrove Hall. Keeps crossing my mind when the top tier opens up.

zari-gani
Sep 6, 2004

How much do you want it? ;-*

Billy Gnosis posted:

How many hours of Canadian Heritage Minutes does Bob need to watch in order to legally immigrate?

Not sure but I could listen to them roast Canadian Heritage Minutes all day. I loved their take on the Winnie the Pooh one.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

zari-gani posted:

I've already educated Bob on YTV's The Zone and Sesame Park. He has much to learn still.

Does he have a preferred PJ? And he needs to be able to identify at least one MuchMusic Vj for the citizenship test.


zari-gani posted:

Not sure but I could listen to them roast Canadian Heritage Minutes all day. I loved their take on the Winnie the Pooh one.

What about NFB Cartoons? Or Hinterlands Who's Who? Also why is one of the Irish children clearly already French????

Fred is on
Dec 25, 2007

Riders...
IN SPACE!
Hubert Gagnon, who voiced Homer Simpson in the French Canadian dub, passed away today. :sigh: He was 73 and had had to step down and be replaced in 2017 for health reasons.

His take on the character took obvious cues from Fred Flintstone, leaning into a roughness that Dan had ended up dropping after Season 1. In this interview, Hubert says that attempting to imitate the original American voice was "out of question". The words won't make much sense to non-French speakers, but you can mostly tell what's going on based on the visuals, and Hubert speaks in his Homer voice most of the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDWOqL9wwBg

(I love the "D'oh! D'oh! D'oh!" part.)

I can't overstate how special it was that the Simpsons had a Quebecois dub to begin with. The vast majority of cartoons and movies we get around here are dubbed in either France French or what we call "International" French, which mostly consists of Quebecois voice actors affecting a French accent and carefully avoiding any regionalisms for maximum accessibility.

But the Flintstones, the Simpsons and King of the Hill took a different approach, having its mostly working-class characters speak in joual (while other, more outlandish animated comedies like Futurama, Family Guy and South Park had an International French dub). The localization effort was often fairly comprehensive, replacing the more obscure references to American personalities and locations with Quebec-specific ones (see this twitter thread, which was brought up on Talking Simpsons before). This sometimes got a little absurd, especially in King of the Hill which seems to have an American flag in every other frame. But in each case, these shows left a cultural footprint here that I doubt would have been half as deep if they had simply done an International French dub.

So, RIP Hubert Gagnon. There are many Homer Simpson voices around the world, but this one was mine.

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine
Not speaking French, I prefer Quebec Homer. RIP

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
That's cool that they did a specific Simpsons dub for Quebec. I wonder if that made it Canadian content, or Quebec Content.

I cannot wait for next weeks Talking Mission Hill, like Bob i spent a year unemployed, and the second Unemployment episode is something I really felt.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

twistedmentat posted:

That's cool that they did a specific Simpsons dub for Quebec. I wonder if that made it Canadian content, or Quebec Content.

I cannot wait for next weeks Talking Mission Hill, like Bob i spent a year unemployed, and the second Unemployment episode is something I really felt.

I think there was a video linked in the meme thread on the differences between the Québécois and French-for-France dubs, I believe the Québec one was localised like that, the other kept that stuff as it was.

xtal
Jan 9, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
How does this play out in the episode where Bart goes to France or whatever?

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

xtal posted:

How does this play out in the episode where Bart goes to France or whatever?

I just saw this on Twitter, the gist is that people have a hard time understanding Bart's Quebecois accent/slang. In the end, instead of passively learning to speak French, he unwittingly drops his native speech patterns and transitions into speaking like a Parisian.

Fred is on
Dec 25, 2007

Riders...
IN SPACE!
Linking the twitter thread again for those who missed it amidst my tl;dr: https://twitter.com/matttomic/status/1158910781964083201

JethroMcB posted:

I just saw this on Twitter, the gist is that people have a hard time understanding Bart's Quebecois accent/slang. In the end, instead of passively learning to speak French, he unwittingly drops his native speech patterns and transitions into speaking like a Parisian.

From accounts I've heard this sort of thing is pretty realistic. Being a Quebecois tourist in France means having to consciously drop the accent or else you won't be understood. Reactions from locals to Quebecois tourists range from "aw, that's cute, it's our cousins from the colonies" to "oh god, the snow rednecks are here, why won't they speak REAL French". A Quebecois Bart would have probably had better luck speaking English, really.

I haven't seen the France French version of the scene myself, but according to one of the replies in that thread, that one had the cop simply not care (because ACAB, presumably) until Bart realized he should have led with the "antifreeze in wine" bit. Honestly I find that scene awkward (much like the rest of that episode) in every language but it's amusing how translators at least tried to make it work.

BizarroAzrael posted:

I think there was a video linked in the meme thread on the differences between the Québécois and French-for-France dubs, I believe the Québec one was localised like that, the other kept that stuff as it was.

I could go on for a while about the differences in localization as I understand them. For cultural reasons, American media dubbed in Quebec tends to be localized rather thoroughly (think Phoenix Wright in America, though Quebec dubs still tend to drop the pretense when it's unavoidable, like when Bill Clinton and Bob Dole show up) while in France they like to lean into the American-ness of the product as a feature rather than a bug. One example I find particularly striking is that in Quebec, the Hangover movie series was dubbed and renamed "Lendemain de Veille" (a literal translation for the word "hangover") while in France they renamed it, I poo poo you not, "Very Bad Trip", because keeping the title as-is didn't work for some reason, but they just HAD to use English words anyway.

The replies in the Twitter thread also mention the "See My Vest" song, which in France is left in English with subtitles, while in Quebec they actually dubbed it into "Mon Gilet". Songs are notoriously hard to translate, especially with visuals attached, and this song is an absolute master class in how to do it well and somehow keep it funny.

Anyway, for language nerds like me, the Simpsons Wiki entry on the French dubs is a fascinating read: https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Non-English_versions#French Apparently the two French versions are Matt Groening's personal favorite dubs!

Fred is on fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jun 9, 2020

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
It seems like Bart is a pretty easy voice, but the VAs trying to do Homer are taking just wild swings.

Fred is on
Dec 25, 2007

Riders...
IN SPACE!

PostNouveau posted:

It seems like Bart is a pretty easy voice, but the VAs trying to do Homer are taking just wild swings.

Dan Castellaneta is literally inimitable, so I'd say putting their own unique spins on the character was probably the best choice.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Fred is on posted:

Dan Castellaneta is literally inimitable, so I'd say putting their own unique spins on the character was probably the best choice.

I can't find the interview, but I've heard him talk about the evolution of the voice and it's amazing to hear him go "well it was like this and then I added 25% Walter Matthau to make it a little harsher so then it sounded like this" and he's right it's somehow exactly 25% Walter Matthau that he's added.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Fred is on posted:

Linking the twitter thread again from those who missed it amidst my tl;dr: https://twitter.com/matttomic/status/1158910781964083201


Quebec Homer sounds more like Homer, French Homer is to high pitched to fit really.

I had a friend who spent this entire schooling in French Immersion, so he could speak Quebec French fluently. He was super excited to go to France after graduating from High School, and when he came back all he could say "Everyone laughed at me and treated me like I was (word we don't use anymore) because of my accent."

twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 9, 2020

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.
Man, Gundam Wing hit me hard. I watched the afternoon and the midnight run episodes as often as I could. This and 08th MS Team are the Gundam series I watched. They hit me right in college sophomore when I had plenty of time to watch.

Aside from Evangelion, the giant robot anime I enjoyed were Escaflowne, RahXephon, Vandread and throw back Armored Trooper Votoms.

I'd love to hear their opinions on all the stuff I watched as a teenager: Ranma 1/2, Tenchi Muyo, Kimagure Orange Road, Oh My Goddess, Love Hina ( I don't think they've done a harem anime) honestly this list could go on for a while. I should start my own podcast.

Old Swerdlow
Jul 24, 2008
The Gundam Wing episode inspired me to finally finish watching the first Gundam series. And then I moved on to Zeta and remembered that most of the Gundam shows aren’t very good. Zeta is fine but there sure is a whole mountain of trash after that series.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

Old Swerdlow posted:

The Gundam Wing episode inspired me to finally finish watching the first Gundam series. And then I moved on to Zeta and remembered that most of the Gundam shows aren’t very good. Zeta is fine but there sure is a whole mountain of trash after that series.

No matter what, if you finished Zeta, make sure to watch the capstone to all that in Char's Counterattack. It's a real good send-off.

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.
Oh man, I forgot Patlabor. The ultimate adults doings job anime. Even if that job is being a gaint robot police unit. Not to mention the movie that I must have watched as often as I watched Ghost in the Shell. Bob and Henry should talk about Mamoru Oshii at some point.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Heh, Spankin' it to the Porn Clown.

I had no idea the Harley Quinn episode was on monday.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Listening to the yakety sax talk at the end of the most recent episode of Talking Mission Hill, I kept expecting Bob to bring up tribute.wmv.

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine
Is this what got Al Jean mad at you, Bob?

Seems like perfectly cromulent satire

https://www.somethingawful.com/news/leaked-simpsons-movie/

bobservo
Jul 24, 2003

Analytic Engine posted:

Is this what got Al Jean mad at you, Bob?

Seems like perfectly cromulent satire

https://www.somethingawful.com/news/leaked-simpsons-movie/

The important thing is I didn't get my comeuppance and I never will

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Analytic Engine posted:

Is this what got Al Jean mad at you, Bob?

Seems like perfectly cromulent satire

https://www.somethingawful.com/news/leaked-simpsons-movie/

This is gold; the "I want the following people to appear in this scene:" bit is so true. Good Job Bob.

Earlier tonight I was searching for something on Frinkiac and laughed at this frame for like a solid minute.

JethroMcB fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Jun 22, 2020

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Listening to the yakety sax talk at the end of the most recent episode of Talking Mission Hill, I kept expecting Bob to bring up tribute.wmv.

I was surprised they were unaware of the Gormandgust TV adaption. Maybe it wasn't on in the US as it was BBC i think? It was on in Canada a lot on our version of the SciFi channel. I tried watching it and it was just kinda boring and stuffy. Also one of those things where "look how craaaaaazy i am, i'm going to hoot like an owl!" is a big part of the plot.

I think of all the Mission Hill episodes, this is one I forget about until i watch it an realize its one of the best. Man I can't wait for Man From Pluto.

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine
Relistening to the backlog there's a moment in Duffless where they breathalyze Homer and he gets a DUI. You guys didn't bring up the gummy beers that Barney saw him eat. Am I crazy to say that's what got Homer, or just ignorant?

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
So I don't know if Bob and Henry wanna set up their own meme thread somewhere...

Fred is on
Dec 25, 2007

Riders...
IN SPACE!
Well. See you all in the Patreon comments section, I guess.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

I created a podcast discord, https://discord.gg/rTc2f7z simpsons chat welcome

Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jun 24, 2020

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

Their eyes locked and suddenly there was the sound of breaking glass.
\
Just moved my $5 from lowtax back to talking simpsons. Hoping for more talKing of the hill soon.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
I'm wondering what Bob thinks about the impending end of this website.

Billy Gnosis
May 18, 2006

Now is the time for us to gather together and celebrate those things that we like and think are fun.

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I'm wondering what Bob thinks about the impending end of this website.

That's what 3 people he's worked with that have been publicly outed as monsters this week alone?

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


who were the other two

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



brugroffil posted:

who were the other two

IGN scumbags. Greg Miller.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

SeANMcBAY posted:

IGN scumbags. Greg Miller.

I missed the Greg Miller thing, what happened

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



sexpig by night posted:

I missed the Greg Miller thing, what happened

Check Bob’s Twitter. I’m sure he doesn’t want this poo poo discussed in his podcast thread.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Billy Gnosis posted:

That's what 3 people he's worked with that have been publicly outed as monsters this week alone?

New conspiracy theory: Bob knew??

No Bob is too drat sweet.

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Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


I was listening to the latest episode (Treehouse of Horror X) and noticed that the Curse has once again struck. Bob and Henry and their guest spent a bit of time talking about Siegfried and Roy, and mentioned that they were recording in early May. That means it would be within a week later that Roy died of complications from COVID on May 8. :smith:

Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jun 25, 2020

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