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"Pistols were a boy band" is the gooniest loving thing. How old are you?
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tardwrangler posted:"Pistols were a boy band" is the gooniest loving thing. How old are you? Yeah I just kinda glossed over that post because well, it's quite a take. I mean looking back they certainly weren't a very good band, but that was kind of the point of punk. Without the Sex Pistols there would likely be no Joy Division, Buzzcocks, The Smiths, etc
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Jun 9, 2020 20:33
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Phlegmish posted:You must be the punk brother I unfortunately never had, I went on a French punk YouTube bender a year or two ago, and those are some of the bands that came up. Komintern Sect I already knew, but the other two were solid discoveries. Here's some more: Nice, I know warrior kids and Les collabos, those others are new, I'll check them out. And I'm in Canada eh If you haven't checked out any of the Chaos en France comps you should. Drei Oklok is so much fun
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Jun 9, 2020 20:41
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tardwrangler posted:"Pistols were a boy band" is the gooniest loving thing. How old are you? They were the Monkees of punk
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Jun 9, 2020 20:42
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Im going to effortpost about this when I wake up. Also fill you in on the Australian scene.
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Jun 9, 2020 20:42
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tardwrangler posted:Im going to effortpost about this when I wake up. Also fill you in on the Australian scene. Australia has produced some truly mutant stuff over the last decade, very interested.
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Jun 9, 2020 20:44
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the sex pistols were good for one thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9c1Um74jFY
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Jun 9, 2020 20:51
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When people say the Sex Pistols were a boy band, they mean that they were literally managed like a boy band by Malcolm McLaren, not that they weren't hardcore or underground enough. They were really important culturally but I'm still surprised anyone cares enough about them to get defensive
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Jun 9, 2020 21:02
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uber_stoat posted:the sex pistols were good for one thing. acoustic 450 on an 8x10 
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Jun 9, 2020 21:02
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tardwrangler posted:"Pistols were a boy band" is the gooniest loving thing. How old are you? I think this is the first time Ive ever seen that statement considered controversial. Just because the Sex Pistols played a different genre of music than most boy bands doesnt mean they were as heavily managed as other boy bands like The Monkees. Im not sure how old I should be to understand that.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:12
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I'm old as gently caress. I was sixteen when it all changed. I still love the sound and the attitude and the whole thing was the major influence on my life. There is enough written and spoken stuff out there to vindicate the sex pistols on most levels. See what your heroes say, listen to actual musos discuss it. I went to the filthy lucre show just to see Steve and Paul play together Thats not a studio sound. Its monumental and played with real relish. People love the mclaren narrative for some reason when everyone who actually knew him thought he was a lying oval office.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:12
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Vindicate the Sex Pistols about what? Im sorry if I somehow be-smudged the honor of your favorite band, but are you really not aware of the role Malcolm McLaren played in their management?
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Jun 9, 2020 21:13
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Most peoples knowledge of the band is a lovely tabloid pastiche. I think thats a shame. listen to the album a few times
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Jun 9, 2020 21:14
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Dell_Zincht posted:
Im pretty skeptical about this. By the time McClaren put the Sex Pistols together guys like Richard Hell were already making some waves in NYC and Velvet Underground had been around for over a decade. The influences that lead to bands like The Buzzcocks and lots of other good bands were already out there. The Sex Pistols have kind of an outsized image in punk rock because of how much media attention they garnered, but their influence is actually way smaller. Lots of other important UK punk bands also formed in '75 that were way more influential, Sham 69 being a noteworthy example.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:20
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Phlegmish posted:When people say the Sex Pistols were a boy band, they mean that they were literally managed like a boy band by Malcolm McLaren, not that they weren't hardcore or underground enough. It's this, their entire fashion style and attitude was planned out by McLaren and Vivienne Westwood (McLaren to make money off the band, Westwood to make money off the fashion).
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Jun 9, 2020 21:21
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All this mention of the Smiths is just reminding me how much I hate Morrissey.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:24
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As you should, he's up there with Jonny Rotten in terms of "rock stars with brain worms"
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Jun 9, 2020 21:25
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CoffeeBooze posted:Im pretty skeptical about this. By the time McClaren put the Sex Pistols together guys like Richard Hell were already making some waves in NYC and Velvet Underground had been around for over a decade. The influences that lead to bands like The Buzzcocks and lots of other good bands were already out there. The Sex Pistols have kind of an outsized image in punk rock because of how much media attention they garnered, but their influence is actually way smaller. Lots of other important UK punk bands also formed in '75 that were way more influential, Sham 69 being a noteworthy example. I think the ramones '76 tour is more influential to UK punk than the sex pistols' existence.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:28
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the smiths are great and morrissey should be fired into the sun. johnny marr can sing pretty well these days, just pay to see him play smiths songs.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:29
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Did Morrissey ever end up on Judge Judy like Johnny Rotten?
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Jun 9, 2020 21:29
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I like this thread a lot. Lets agree that The saints should have been mentioned before page 11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhF7IBidu9k&list=PL94gOvpr5yt2VH3QItqcu6ZVMDeIEm8lA&index=1
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Jun 9, 2020 21:30
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tardwrangler posted:I like this thread a lot. Lets agree that The saints should have been mentioned before page 11. 
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Jun 9, 2020 21:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBJWykz3pZw
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Jun 9, 2020 21:32
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albany academy posted:I think the ramones '76 tour is more influential to UK punk than the sex pistols' existence.  Even so, Johnny Ramone was a Reagan-rimming piece of poo poo. Let it not be forgotten.
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Jun 9, 2020 21:40
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CoffeeBooze posted:Did Morrissey ever end up on Judge Judy like Johnny Rotten? You are kidding, right?
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Jun 9, 2020 21:41
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A Pack of Kobolds posted:
johnny ramone hated bonzo goes to bitburg lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSyI0EKjBp0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4r9AHbVnAY
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Jun 9, 2020 21:41
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is pere ubu punk? i've always found it kinda wild that someone was making noises like this in like1975 ffs. or earlier if you count rocket from the tombs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VelS-YCtHV4 and there's these guys... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx0QQu1nTPw
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Jun 9, 2020 21:47
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if we're going that far back, Death: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwehxN2ipCU
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Jun 9, 2020 21:56
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Literally A Person posted:You are kidding, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTgVLDvS_GI
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Jun 9, 2020 21:57
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uber_stoat posted:is pere ubu punk? i've always found it kinda wild that someone was making noises like this in like1975 ffs. or earlier if you count rocket from the tombs. I hope so. They had some awesome music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvcsO6cYLus
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Jun 9, 2020 21:59
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Is this the most punk rock or the least puck rock thing I've ever seen???
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Jun 9, 2020 22:01
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retirement has not been kind to rock stars. the living envy the dead
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Jun 9, 2020 22:04
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tardwrangler posted:retirement has not been kind to rock stars. That's why Iggy never retired
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Jun 9, 2020 22:06
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I loved iggy in dead man
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Jun 9, 2020 22:08
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Literally A Person posted:Is this the most punk rock or the least puck rock thing I've ever seen??? I am still so confused by it that I dont know what to think. Aside from that its funny, because it is very funny.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:09
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CoffeeBooze posted:Did Morrissey ever end up on Judge Judy like Johnny Rotten? That one time when Justin from The Locust was on Springer was pretty funny.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:14
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I've always loved looking at old punk flyer art   
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Jun 9, 2020 22:18
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Man, this would have been my dream lineup in high school. I was (am) a Lookout! Records die-hard and I'll never forgive myself for never attending a show at 924 Gilman.
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Jun 9, 2020 22:24
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Australia lucky dip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2PitIIey_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfUqyh3Y-Vw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ETFodgh0FU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYeDY6YkzIg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGD8X4T9QqI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmTiMW6U-HI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cce2iYdjpSI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j115SH_hzKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdo45ybUBI0 We loved your detroit poo poo down here.
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tardwrangler posted:I like this thread a lot. Lets agree that The saints should have been mentioned before page 11. I like this thread a lot more than the one in NMD. Nothing against that thread or its posters, but they always talk about the same five bands that I don't know, with names like The Piano Hits The Door, and no one responds when I bring up my caveman bands. Good job Dixville
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