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LordNad posted:He won his first game as scum. Barring a tracker/watcher, it's a very safe role for a newbie scum. Well his team in that game was an unstoppable juggernaut of skill
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Mr. Humalong posted:Yeah but like at this point dude would be one of maybe two people left. All it would take is a rolecop, watcher, or tracker to see him visit literally any target but a corpse They robbed the tracker.
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Mr. Humalong posted:Well his team in that game was an unstoppable juggernaut of skill 3 scum dead in 3 days suggests this is not a parallel
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Squiggly posted:3 scum dead in 3 days suggests this is not a parallel Also I'm pretty sure I legitimately got confused and thought this was D3 for a while, how is quarantine brain making me lose fake days now
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Mr. Humalong posted:Well his team in that game was an unstoppable juggernaut of skill I thought you were the other scum on his team...
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Issue I have with Magius is not burying merk. Merk got those robots, so if there is another grave robber, they could have dug up the robots last night. Which leads to the other use of the grave robber, that if someone has robots, they have to dig up brains. But I don't really believe that there are multiple graverobbers.
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Yeah I’m bored ##vote jed I don’t like this but let’s move on Voodoo don’t jail Boogie, I can protect him
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CapnAndy posted:4 for 4 if we can just dunk jedi already! I still want to dunk Jed today and can see the reasoning behind letting Sal live one more night, but no one was casing an alternative so I went digging.
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Squiggly posted:I know no one's changing their mind at this point but if we can all agree to let hum make some sassy comment and probably hammer that'd be great Gimme dat bingo
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LordNad posted:I still want to dunk Jed today and can see the reasoning behind letting Sal live one more night, but no one was casing an alternative so I went digging. Also nice call squigs
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I am happy I have lead the charge on all of these anti-town players
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Jed don’t ever claim SK or any 3p SA mafia players hate 3p roles I’m pretty sure it’s because of Steak
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We need a nice non-game topic for twilight PA opened up a lot of businesses on June 5th and I've been wanting some stuff from IKEA to do some quarantine organizing so I put in an order on that day, and it's not like they're open for in-person shopping and I wouldn't fuckin' take that option if they were, so I got Next-Day Pickup. Yesterday I tried to make a very polite call to their help line about how I still hadn't gotten the email to come pick up my order yet, and I realize they're doubtlessly swamped and trying to open things back up, I just wanted to make sure my order was in the queue and I didn't have to re-order or anything When I called the help line I got an automated message saying "we're getting way too many calls, sorry" and then it hung up on me, so I guess that's my answer.
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Mr. Humalong posted:Jed don’t ever claim SK or any 3p SA mafia players hate 3p roles
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Mr. Humalong posted:I am happy I have lead the charge on all of these anti-town players  CapnAndy posted:
Did anyone have "Hum takes credit for catching the SK" on their card?
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CapnAndy posted:We need a nice non-game topic for twilight You got swerved
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I keep saying that because Sandwolf kept having conniptions about it He couldn’t accept that it was my insight that lead to Steak dying day 1
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Mr. Humalong posted:I keep saying that because Sandwolf kept having conniptions about it 
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 gently caress you all!!! :ghost
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gently caress you all!!!
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RIP survivor cop, picked the wrong line of work in 2020
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It was a difficult decision, the group was deliberating what to do.. "I kill people for fun somethimes." Cam a voice from the crowd. "Just tell me who you want me to kill." Maybe not so difficult. The crowd drew closer to the spekaer Sal Cried - "You can't kill him! I love him!" But the crowd was undeterred. Swords were drawn and then... MisterJed - Fantasia Self-Aligned Yandere Lover Necromancer was executed. MAGIC: Summon Ghoul. You can expend 2 charges to summon a ghoul. You can send the ghoul to kill any target that is not yourself or your Lover, or protect yourself or your Lover. You gain a charge whenever someone dies to the vote. Performing this action to kill someone will empower the Priest with 1 charge. Should your Lover die, you will gain 2 charges per Vote Death and have to use your night kill as long as you have the charges to do so. You start the game with 1 charge. SKILL: Masonry with your Lover. "NOOOOOO!" Sal cried, leaping to save MasterJed. But it was too late. MasterJed was dead. "Without MasterJed I have nothing to live for!" SalTheBard - Fantasia Town-Aligned Lover Priest has died of a broken heart. MAGIC: Forced Confessional. You can expend 1 charge to investigate 3 Players to learn if they are any Non-Town aligned within the group. You gain a charge whenever the Necromancer (Your lover) charges you. You start the game with 0 charges. SKILL: Masonry with your Lover. It is now night. Though you all have returned to your homes for safety, you can still hear what others are saying. The thread will remain open overnight until results are being disseminated. You have 24ish hours (6pm EDT friday) to submit night actions. Because the day ended with more than 12 hours from deadline, no lurkers (if there were any) will be modkilled.
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Votecount for Day 4  Squiggly (1): Sub Rosa xopods (1): cheese sandwich CapitalistPig (0): Sub Rosa, Sub Rosa (0): b-minus1, Scientastic (0): Sub Rosa, cheese sandwich (0): Voodoofly, Sub Rosa, Not Voting (13): b-minus1, CapitalistPig, CapnAndy, dmboogie, LordNad, Maigius, Mr. Humalong, Sandwolf, Scientastic, Spoonsy, Squiggly, Voodoofly, xopodsWith 15 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. There is currently no deadline set. Days will be 48 hours, nights are 24 hours. Deadlines seem broken, it's on Wed at 6pm EST.
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Original Claim post: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3922476&userid=202547&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post505498979 b-minus1 D2: b-minus1 posted:Mine did not fail CapitalistPig : D1: CapitalistPig posted:I'll invite you [cheese sandwich] to my masonry. CapitalistPig posted:I tried to put you in my masonry cheese but it failed. CapitalistPig posted:Yes , my day 2 cop told me that jed is scum CapitalistPig posted:I visited someone last night and it failed. CapitalistPig posted:Who wants to be in my masonry CapitalistPig posted:I visited a player in this game last night. CapitalistPig posted:I'll invite you to my masonry tonight. CapitalistPig posted:Also I'm lying I'm not a mason recruiter you boneheads. CapnAndy : D2: CapnAndy posted:PQ himself could tell you at least one reason. CapnAndy posted:Another failure last night. I must conclude that the problem lies in myself and ask whoever's roleblocking me to kindly knock it the gently caress off. D4: CapnAndy posted:I will categorically state on the record that killing scum of any sort will not also kill me CapnAndy posted:I promise to get right on that if refilling items is something I can do! cheese sandwich No claims dmboogie : D3: dmboogie posted:hi I killed hambeet but it wasn’t on purpose I swear dmboogie posted:I shield a target from night kills. dmboogie posted:i protected sand both nights LordNad D2: LordNad posted:I just got a little skeeved because "When all threats to the town are eliminated" is not vague. My action also failed so I am wondering if factions play a part. LordNad posted:I'll full claim because I've been robbed. But no I have no clue nor will I be able to tell Maigius: D2: Maigius posted:I am the town Gravekeeper. Every night I can bury someone. If someone has visited the grave, the thread gets the grave is disturbed message that we got at the start of D2. I know who disturbed the grave. Last night it was Merk. Maigius posted:It was you Sandwolf. Maigius posted:I formally buried PQ (N1), Tom Tucker (N2), and Nep-Nep (N3). No one disturbed the graves last night. MisterJed : D4: MisterJed posted:Good morning. I'm the SK. I summoned a ghoul to kill Jeabus N1 and DGK last night. Mr. Humalong D2: Mr. Humalong posted:I have tech and it’s not robots Mr. Humalong posted:I entombed Nep. It will last until someone else visits her. She was my biggest scum read going into n2 after the weird last minute jump onto Sal. I’m glad I’ve led town to two consecutive scum lunches and hope to bag another today. Mr. Humalong posted:That was my only shot of entomb. Mr. Humalong posted:Oh also my action failed last night because I targeted boogie Mr. Humalong posted:Y'all going off about me entombing have a hard time reading I guess. Mr. Humalong posted:It would be in Spoonsy’s best interest not to echo me, btw. Mr. Humalong posted:Yeah I’m bored ##vote jed SalTheBard D3: SalTheBard posted:I have information, I think the best way to give it is to claim. I'm an even night "group" cop. Basically I pick 3 people and if any of those people are not town I will know. To that end I've been keeping a pretty detailed spreadsheet on this game. There are a handful of people that voted for both Spoonsy D1 and Maigius D2. I picked two of those people (DGK2000 and Dmboogie) and then I picked someone who tried to cuddle me (Nep Nep). The intel I got back is that one of those 3 is Not Town (Full disclosure they could be a 3p or something). So I think those 3 are a good place to start and Maigius if the grave robber is one of those 3 it would be good to know. SalTheBard posted:Going to Mafia Edit for Clarity. So in our Masonry we were allowed to post our PM's per moderator so I feel pretty safe that Jed is being straight up with me. Sandwolf D3: Sandwolf posted:Sweet thank you, I didn’t know if what I do technically ~disturbs the grave~ I’m just gonna claim cuz it turns out my power is less useful than I originally hoped Sandwolf posted:Based on what TT said (“look to the Spoonsy push”) I am guessing Amni collects last words upon death, and before me claiming, people thought it was just a folksy thing for maybe after the game Sandwolf posted:Yeah I didn’t get Jose’s words. I thought about it and decided not to. I didn’t think his words would be that useful. Sandwolf posted:Honestly xopods anyone with a brain would have been able to go back and deduce I’m the mason recruited by beet on N2. So I will claim and our mutual association should and will remain secret. Scientastic D3: Scientastic posted:Hey Sal, can I ask, is this a TECH ability or a MAGIC one? Scientastic posted:OK, I do have a reason for asking, but fair dos. Scientastic posted:I'm not going to tell you my reason for asking, so I can respect that you don't want to tell me the nature of the ability. D1: Spoonsy posted:the post, as confirmed by the mod, is Spoonsy posted:As a reminder I can do it once a day and it has to be echoing a vote that was already placed at some time. Only reason it worked is that Sci had voted Steak at the start of the day in joke phase (and yes I did deliberately pick someone to take off of me). Squiggly D1: Squiggly posted:I'm late to the party per usual since I always forget I signed up for a game and never know when it starts Squiggly posted:We can talk after flip today again so don't stress boi Squiggly posted:I use magic for people to talk at night Sub Rosa: [/b ]No claims Voodoofly D3: Voodoofly posted:Andy I'm probably done responding to you. If you can't see how I think its scummy that you called Maigius scum all twilight long, and then when I say "wait maybe it is better for you to claim first so you can't be bullshitting on it" you throw up your arms? Voodoofly posted:It's going to come up so I'll be up front: I jailed Boogie. Voodoofly posted:Also gently caress that I'm not jailing Jed tonight. [b] xopods D4: xopods posted:gently caress it, I also don't want to out them right now, but I have a Mason buddy and a lot of my shooting-from-the-hip type of thoughts have been getting bounced off that person in Mason chat rather than going in thread, so if you're noticing a lack of xopods thinking out loud in between the big reads, that's why. xopods posted:Oh wait, but killing Jed kills Sal? xopods posted:I should probably claim my other investigations even though they don't tell us much: xopods posted:Unfortunately, we're both out of charges. I started with three and there's a way I can get more but it hasn't been triggered yet. xopods posted:My investigations were:
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Well I didn't need to put the big claim post together today. At least part of why I'm burying people to see who is extracting things with their bodies post mortum. These could be information(Sandwolf), skills (PQ), items (merk), or even magic charges(full guess on my part).
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MisterJed posted:Good morning. I'm the SK. Yami Fenrir posted:MisterJed - Fantasia Self-Aligned Yandere Lover Necromancer was executed. 
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What do we see in the shadows? Who was bad around Steak on D1? A Mystery Man posted:As for Steak's alignment, I don't think I'm capable of determining it based on early-game posting because he's just too weird. Who could it be? posted:I'd vote for Steak to avoid a no-lunch despite the fact that he's null for me at this point because he can be such a distraction. Spoonsy seems more lazy than scummy to me and Sci's voting him so I think I'd rather pass on that one. Can you guess who jumped onto the Steak bandwagon? posted:Alright, ##vote Mr. Steak because I definitely don't want to lunch Spoonsy after all these lovely-rear end votes have come pouring in.  Bearing in mind that Merk had a grave-robbing power, who was very keen on casting aspersions about Maigius and doubting his honesty? A riddle wrapped in a mystery posted:As for Maigius, I'd be happy to vote him too for all the reasons yesterday plus this grave-disturbing stuff. A mystery inside an enigma posted:I'm not sure the fact that it says the grave was "disturbed" should lead us to believe that either Maigius is lying or a second person visited PQs body. A shadowy figure posted:I just don't want to get in a situation where if Maigius does flip funeral director or whatever it was he claimed, we go on a wild goose chase for whoever "actually" disturbed the grave. Hiding in plain sight posted:Either Maigius is lying and is an item-retriever himself, or he's the counter to that role, but both of them visited the same target since there was nowhere else for them to have gone. I may be running out of mysterious phrases posted:Yeah, I missed the bit where he said "for sure" the items are missing. That's pretty weird.  As the merk bandwagon started to form, this happened: The creature under the bed posted:I'm tempted to switch to merk because I can't figure out why he wouldn't explicitly confirm or deny the claim. I mean, if Maigius were lying, presumably merk would say so. But if merk did pick up the item I don't know why he'd refuse to say so... as either alignment really. It seems scummy to withhold that info but I don't see the upside in that case... it's not LESS suspicious to refuse to reveal anything, since collecting items from the dead isn't an inherently scummy power (thematically maybe, but not mechanically). LOOK AT THAT POST. Just look at it. It is just terrible.  Then came a bus, starting in the weakest possible way with an easy to back out of vote to test whether the bandwagon was going to gain traction, followed by a couple of drive-bys that again, could easily be backed out of if the crosshairs move away. Someone posted:Yeah, I dunno. I'm hopelessly behind on work today and have to think about that and not this but ##vote merk for now at least. Whodunnit? posted:I guess I just don't see what's gained by not at least confirming/denying that you visited PQ's body. If we lunch Maigius it should be fairly evident whether or not he's lying... all withholding the info seems to accomplish as far as I can tell is make you look worse either way. Look behind you! posted:Have you contributed anything to this game yourself beyond OMGUSing everyone who calls you scum?  Even after this, he continued to try to cast doubt on Maigius. It's almost as if Maigius catching the graverobber was bad for this guy's team! The mysterious stranger posted:If your role is to see who successfully obtains items, why did you initially claim that it was to prevent Scum from getting the items?  And even while the town reached a consensus that merk was scum, look what was posted: Mr. X posted:I'm already voting merk, but "has a robot" isn't a great reason to lunch someone. If anything, it's a point in his favor. Once a power's known, the person kinda has to use it in a way that benefits - or at least appears to benefit - Town, even if they're not Town. Again, this is giving wiggle room to get out of the vote if there was a last minute push to someone else. This sort of equivocation is scummy, and reading this in the context of merk's subsequent flip, it is really clear that this chap is trying to leave himself enough room to get out of his vote.  Let's see what happened when our shadowy figure talked about our third flipped scum, DGK: Perhaps Mr. X was too obvious? posted:What really stands out to me about DGK - and maybe it just looks so remarkable in contrast to Nep - is that almost all his reads and direct interactions involve people who haven't flipped yet. He's also been comparatively scattered. At the same time, he was posting cases against other people who we now know to be town: How about Mr. Pods? posted:Nep-nep I think I've given it away posted:dmboogie Maybe no-one will notice posted:I'd be inclined to vote Nep but I'm gonna do the rest of my promised read-overs before voting anyone. I'll stick with it posted:Sal When he finally got on board with DGK, it was with this supposed scumslip, which he very quickly (literally minutes later) retracted: Let's get back to the gimmick posted:##vote DGK He who shall not be named posted:##unvote for now while you explain this. And then DGK got executed without our mysterious figure's help...  Now, I am going to reveal what you probably already know, because I am going to talk about a roleclaim:  xopods posted:I'm basically a rolecop for Magic. scumpods posted:My power You know the only players we've seen who have both magic and tech abilities? The tech ability claimed here is using an EMF reader, the magic skill claimed is magicking up new readers. I don't believe the claim, but I suspect that xopods is claiming both to cover himself in case there are other magic/tech detecting roles. just to be clear, I think xopods is scum posted:Player X's claim to me, as I understand it This is unconfirmed masonry, and we have one player who has a magic ability, and another who has claimed both a magic and a tech ability, and the only other players we know have both magic and tech are scum. Even without this piece of information, Xopods' voting pattern and his attempts to cast doubt on Maigius' claim, his regular equivocation about the alignment of flipped scum, his consistent pushing for other candidates and his flip-flopping all lead me to conclude he is scum. The roleclaim is just the icing on the cake.  Tomorrow, let's execute xopods.
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Okay, first thing I'm going to do is put that claims list in list format because although it's useful to have all the claim-related posts in one place to fact check them, it's also a giant pain in the rear end when you just want to remind yourself of what everyone (supposedly) is. Don't worry, I will also get to some reads later. Alive People  b-minus1: Some kind of successful action N1. Cpig: Numerous fakeclaims, including Mason Recruiter (recanted D4). Claims action failed N1, succeeded N2 (claims he did not target Jose). CapnAndy: Roleblocked N1 (???), N2 (by Voodoo, probably). Softclaimed item-replenisher D4. Cheese: No claim. Dmboogie: Crusador [sic], confirmed by multiple independent night results. Protects a player from kills but also kills one random player visiting them. Killed Hambeet. LordNad: Claims Past Viewer. Seems to be a silent day action like a Tracker but for the preceding night. Claims it requires the target to say the words "I visited" or words to that effect before it can be used. Claims to have been robbed N1 and can no longer use his power. Maigius: Claims Gravekeeper. Sees who visits graves. Correctly identified Merk and Sandwolf as grave-visitors. Mr. Humalong: Claims One-Shot Entomber (Tech). Apparently has some other action that failed N3. Sandwolf: Claims Last Word Collector. Visited TT on N2 but has otherwise not used the power. Recruited into unconfirmed Masonry by Hambeet, confirmed by Xopods. Sci: No claim. Curious about whether people use Magic or Tech. Spoonsy: Hypnotist who moves people's votes back where they were. Seems at least partially confirmed through use. Squiggly: Claims Night Hag, a Miller who lets us talk at night. Sub Rosa: No claim. Voodoofly: Jailer. Targeted LordNad, then Andy, then Dmboogie. Seemingly confirmed by others' claims. Xopods: Unconfirmed Mason-Magic Cop. Mason portion confirmed by Sandwolf via "mutual association." Buddy is corresponding Tech Cop. Confirmed Dmboogie, Jed. Claims Voodoofly has no Magic. Dead people  Mr. Steak: Fantasia Scum Mana Drainer PQ: Technopolis Town Roboticist TT: Technopolis Town Security Consultant Jeabus: Fantasia Town Thunder Mage Merk: Technopolis Scum Scavenger Hambeet: Technopolis Town Historian Jose: Technopolis Town Nurse Nep-nep: Technopolis Town Skeptic DGK: Technopolis Scum Saboteur Jed: Fantasia 3P Necromancer Sal: Fantasy Town Priest
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Unfortunately, the claims don't really help us narrow things down very much, I don't think. The only powers that seem clearly (or very likely) Town are Dmboogie's and Sandwolf's, and the latter's is unverifiable unless he claims a role-related result from a dead Townie that is both confirmable and something Sandwolf couldn't have guessed, which is tricky. I don't have time to read Sci or Sandwolf right now though I think they're the most important people for me to look at carefully. I'm going to do that later today/tonight, cross my heart and hope to die. Really I should have started working half an hour ago, but I'm going to do a quickie on Cpig cause he's been lurking so there will be very little anyway and it'll be good to scratch one person off the list anyway.
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xopods posted:Okay, first thing I'm going to do is put that claims list in list format because although it's useful to have all the claim-related posts in one place to fact check them, it's also a giant pain in the rear end when you just want to remind yourself of what everyone (supposedly) is. Don't worry, I will also get to some reads later. Are you even reading the thread or just relying on everything your CapnAndy claimed jailed N1 as well. This was the night I can verify. So you have 3 players (Voodoo, Me, Andy) all confirming this. So Boogie is confirmed by "multiple independent night actions" (you and sandwolf, both scummy people btw) but Voodoo is only "seemingly confirmed" despite Andy (jailed 2x nights), Boogie (jailed last night), and me (D2 past view) supporting his claim. I claimed on D3 I was robbed N2. N4 is when Jed killed... the cult item robber... You just gonna ignore Sci's excellent and hilarious case from 2 hours ago hoping it goes away orrr...?
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xopods posted:Unfortunately, listing the claims doesn't really help me look less scummy, I don't think. The only powers that seem clearly (just ignore these guys, seriously town look elsewhere) Town are Dmboogie's and My scumbro Sandwolf. The latter's is only mostly confirmed until he claims another result from a dead Townie that is both vague and seemingly helpful, which is tricky but we're cooking up a good result in scumchat. Fixed for you
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Analysis Best thing going for him is that he has voted correctly every time (if we assume he would have eventually voted for Jed yesterday if needed). Points against him are lurking and treating the Mason recruiter fakeclaim as serious for a while. However, those are both on-meta. More importantly, they were unnecessary and have no upside for Scum that doesn't involve Town WIFOMing ourselves. That is, fakeclaiming Mason Recruiter confers no advantage, and is so intrinsically confirmable that fakeclaiming it guarantees that you eventually have to recant. So you're just lying in a way that guarantees you eventually have to admit to lying (possibly at an inopportune moment) and gain no tangible benefit in the short term. People might believe you're not doing the NK, but that doesn't make you not scum in the early game. Likewise, overtly lurking and refusing to post content is easily avoided as Scum and attracts attention with no upside. I hate that he made that argument himself, but reluctantly have to acknowledge that it's true. In a vacuum, his behavior could be Scum attempting to coast through the first few days. In a vacuum, voting for non-Town every day could be Scum bussing for Town cred. But together those two strategies would seem at odds if he were Scum. You can't get a lot of Town cred for voting for your scum buddies while also playing a "too scummy to be scum" gambit and downplaying how much attention you're paying to where you put your vote. Merk kinda made his own lunch inevitable, as did Jed, but it wouldn't have been that hard for Cpig to stay on Spoonsy or vote Nep-Nep if he were Scum attempting to pose as lazy Town. Verdict I reverse my read. I think Cpig's Town.
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