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Invalid Validation posted:I do kind of wonder how many books Jordan would have milked out of it had he not died. 14 books is way too drat much as it is. Man if they were all knife of dreams or first couple book levels of awesome, he could have done 20 and I wouldn't have cared. rndmnmbr posted:Jim Butcher: Camelyn is on fire, but it's not Elayne's fault. drat! jng2058 posted:I've always assumed she cut her deal with the Dark One in that very moment and became the first Forsaken then and there. She didn't reveal herself as such until much later, but she was working for the Dark One from then on. The other Aes Sedai in the ritual refused and the Dark One blew them to pieces for it. I haven't read that scene for over a decade, I thought they were in a floating research institute and that crashed to the ground after the true power shorted out all the magic one power antigrav cells. Ika fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jun 12, 2020 |
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Ika posted:Man if they were all knife of dreams or first couple book levels of awesome, he could have done 20 and I wouldn't have cared. Yeah, it's the last of Rand's visions in Rhuidean where it's one of the Da'shain Aiel that works for Mierin (or is transferring over to her because he's marrying someone that does, I forget). He thinks to himself about how she's going to be running the experiment that day, and watches the floating Collam Daan university sphere blow up and collapse
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Jun 12, 2020 22:27
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Lol gently caress it's a literal fall from grace
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Jun 12, 2020 22:33
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He wasn't really subtle about how stories keep being told and retold.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Right. Beidomon's fate isn't in the books, it was revealed in an interview with RJ. I only knew of him from the one mention in the Big Book of Bad Art, didn't know that Jordan had made comments about him in other places, cool.
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I'm looking for some new long audiobooks to listen to in the car. Does anybody know how good the WoT ones are? I've read the entire series so I'm okay with just picking out certain standout books to listen to if some are notably better than others.
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Khizan posted:I'm looking for some new long audiobooks to listen to in the car. Does anybody know how good the WoT ones are? I've read the entire series so I'm okay with just picking out certain standout books to listen to if some are notably better than others. The best audiobooks I've ever listened to. The two readers are fantastic, both generally and especially during the really tense awesome moments. Takes a book or two to finalize the pronunciations if that bugs you.
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Jun 14, 2020 00:37
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Khizan posted:I'm looking for some new long audiobooks to listen to in the car. Does anybody know how good the WoT ones are? I've read the entire series so I'm okay with just picking out certain standout books to listen to if some are notably better than others. The WoT audiobooks are top tier. They’re all read by Michael Kramer and Kate Reading, with him doing the male POV chapters and her the female, which is a surprisingly effective choice.
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Jun 14, 2020 01:19
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They are -very good- and make long road trips at night something to look forward to.
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Khizan posted:I'm looking for some new long audiobooks to listen to in the car. Does anybody know how good the WoT ones are? I've read the entire series so I'm okay with just picking out certain standout books to listen to if some are notably better than others. They are awesome as others have said. They even make the Slog and the transition to Sanderson less troublesome simply from the consistency of the voice work.
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The audiobooks are very good. Although looking at the time remaining and seeing exactly 24 hours left can be a bit daunting.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:The WoT audiobooks are top tier. They’re all read by Michael Kramer and Kate Reading, with him doing the male POV chapters and her the female, which is a surprisingly effective choice. Thanks for all the comments, this all sounds super promising. I think I'm gonna start with TSR and go on from there.
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Jun 14, 2020 20:04
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She looks like she could open palm slam Cenn Buie into the Winespring for foolish talk. Well played casting director.
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Jun 14, 2020 20:38
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And you can cook your own food. Which won't be under my roof!
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Jun 14, 2020 20:45
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yeah i could see her snapping someone in two
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She's gonna get to pitchfork some trollocs and it will legit be one of the greatest moments in TV series history
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Jun 15, 2020 05:11
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I thought she gave them the ol' spicy frying pan
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Lol gently caress it's a literal fall from grace The city is called Paaran Disen lol
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Jun 15, 2020 12:36
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Yeah, that was always pretty on the nose. Though to be fair, Paaran Disen is not the place where they drilled the hole in the Dark One's prison, I got the impression it's far away. But naming the capital of the world, seat of the Aes Sedai, Paradise is certainly bold.
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Jun 15, 2020 12:53
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Their Egos in the Age of Legend were clearly p inflated. It's not that surprising.
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Torrannor posted:Yeah, that was always pretty on the nose. Though to be fair, Paaran Disen is not the place where they drilled the hole in the Dark One's prison, I got the impression it's far away. But naming the capital of the world, seat of the Aes Sedai, Paradise is certainly bold. Is it bold to name it after paradise, or did the word paradise come through time from a description of Paaran Disen?
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bloom posted:I thought she gave them the ol' spicy frying pan Whatever she did, someone's gonna have some insane butcher and kitchen knives.
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Mage_Boy posted:Is it bold to name it after paradise, or did the word paradise come through time from a description of Paaran Disen? Time is a flat
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seaborgium posted:Whatever she did, someone's gonna have some insane butcher and kitchen knives. Daise Congar: pitchfork on 8+ foot pole Bode Cauthon: wood axe Eldrin Cauthon: boar spear Neysa Ayellin: long bladed carving/butchering knife (plus 2 more stuck in her belt) Marin al'Vere: dualwield meat cleaver Alsbet Luhhan: blacksmith hammer VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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Mage_Boy posted:Is it bold to name it after paradise, or did the word paradise come through time from a description of Paaran Disen? Might as well ask this question over a round of jynnan tonnyx
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Finally finished up Winter's Heart in my reread. I kind of read it here and there between other books so maybe some of the momentum was lost on me but it felt like it kinda just ended with no climax or resolution to anything. I also tend to read in bed at night so I could just be forgetting some crucial chapter in Perrin's story or something. The last thing I remember there was as a chapter ending with welp, guess we're gonna team up with the Seanchan then Egwene's arc ends with welp, she got bonked on the head. And the book is over. Anyway, decided to start Knife of Dreams at 2:30am and the prologue kicks rear end. Forgot that Galad scene took place so early on and I didn't really intend to stay up so late reading but once I realized what was coming I pretty much had to at least finish that first part.
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Do you mean crossroads? Winter's heart ends with a bang.
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Inspector 34 posted:Finally finished up Winter's Heart in my reread. I kind of read it here and there between other books so maybe some of the momentum was lost on me but it felt like it kinda just ended with no climax or resolution to anything. I also tend to read in bed at night so I could just be forgetting some crucial chapter in Perrin's story or something. The last thing I remember there was as a chapter ending with welp, guess we're gonna team up with the Seanchan then Egwene's arc ends with welp, she got bonked on the head. And the book is over. Winter's Heart ends with one of the most influential (and badass) events in the entire series?? e: Ah, seeing silvergoose's post, it makes sense that you're meaning Crossroads of Twilight. Yeah, that book certainly has pacing issues. It does end with Egwene getting captured by the White Tower Aes Sedai, and the Daughter of the Nine Moons agreeing to parlay with Rand, but that's not as earth shattering as Winter's Heart's ending, of course. Torrannor fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jun 15, 2020 |
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yeah i have to imagine you said the wrong book title because winter's heart absolutely ends with one of the most bombastic events in the series also, speaking of crossroads of twilight, i like perrin and i like faile, but when the hell do they meet up again??? i genuinely forget, and the bits of them pining about each other leave a little bit to be desired. they're more fun when they're together. i'm also not looking forward to the eventual 'captured egwene' stuff and can't wait to just kinda skim over those chapters in the future until they eventually end.
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Johnny Joestar posted:yeah i have to imagine you said the wrong book title because winter's heart absolutely ends with one of the most bombastic events in the series Knife of Dreams. That's what made Jordan's death so hard; he had just gotten all of the pieces on the board into a really interesting place, and then....
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Yeah Winter's Heart is a slog but With the Choedan Kal is probably one of the best payoff chapters in the entire series. I like it better than the series ending chapters tbqh. EDIT: Last 3 chapters of TSR are probably the best.
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Oh yeah, woops definitely meant Crossroads.
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crossroads of twilight is actually turning out to be better than i remember, if only because it focuses on the main characters more than i'd thought. taking a little bit of a rest from the Big Plot is...fine? there's so many little plot threads going on that a book mostly dedicated to side events to get them squared away was probably inevitable.
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I’m at the finale of Winter’s Heart right now. I can confirm it rules. On my first read I remember thinking Cadsuane was a little too late in coming and a poor replacement for Moiraine in the advising Aes Sedai role. On the re-read her introduction was still a little jarring (here’s the most badass person that we’ve never thought to mention before) but she’s a fun character. Retired, super competent adventurer is a cool niche. And of course she’s wasting fools left and right at the moment.
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aparmenideanmonad posted:Yeah Winter's Heart is a slog but With the Choedan Kal is probably one of the best payoff chapters in the entire series. I like it better than the series ending chapters tbqh. I think, the best 3 chapters are those in TSR, but the best 11 chapters or so is the ending sequence in TFoH.
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I love how Demandred is like ok I'm gonna gently caress up his poo poo OH HOLY gently caress
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I love how Demandred is like ok I'm gonna gently caress up his poo poo OH HOLY gently caress Yup, that was so good. The first time I read it I didn’t remember Verin’s role in getting Elza to break good and kill a Forsaken. There are so many callbacks that I probably missed on the first read, with years between books. CoT starts off with a reference to Graendel’s forged letters to Ituralde, which was from how many books back?
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I'm on Crossroads of Twilight on my re-read/listen and it's not as bad this time because I'm not keenly awaiting for things to happen, and I can just chill out and get into the groove of Elayne's Game of Thrones
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Yeah honestly the great game parts were fine, just her invincibility mentality is so dangerous.
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