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Is there a compelling reason to wait for another year or so? Development seems to be going faster than I had anticipated but has yet to reach saturation and a price point that makes sense for the average consumer.
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Jun 17, 2020 19:07
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Inzombiac posted:Is there a compelling reason to wait for another year or so? in hardware matters you can always wait, because better stuff will always be about to come out. it's up to you if you are willing to pay for what's currently available or wait until you're comfortable with whatever comes out next
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Jun 17, 2020 19:19
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Inzombiac posted:Can someone hold my little baby hands through a device recommendation? I read the OP but know very little about VR overall. I've never used it, personally. If you can get past your hatred of Facebook, I have a massive head with an IPD of 73, and the Quest works great for me. No issues playing Alyx or anything else.
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Jun 17, 2020 19:31
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Inzombiac posted:Is there a compelling reason to wait for another year or so? VR is still early adopter tech, but it's sliding into consumer tech. Buying in when they release the Index 2 or Quest 2 is probably going to be the sweet spot That said there's plenty of content already, Steam VR and Quest are pretty streamlined at this point There might be a price drop on the Quest 1 when they release it's successor, similar to what they did with the Go, that would be a good entry level VR purchase. Nobody has formally announced successor hardware at this point, but it's assumed that everyone has a Gen 3 headset in the pipeline
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Tempted to pick up a Rift S, or a Quest as both are in stock on Oculus' own website right now, but I'm going to wait for the Reverb G2, or Quest 2. Ideally the next Quest will have a better refresh rate, FOV, and dedicated PCVR support instead of using the Link software, but if it doesn't I'll just get the G2.
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Jun 17, 2020 21:10
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Inzombiac posted:Can someone hold my little baby hands through a device recommendation? I read the OP but know very little about VR overall. I've never used it, personally. Can you further define “perfectly decent PC”? Because a good flat screen gaming rig tends to be a not so great VR rig
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EvilBlackRailgun posted:Tempted to pick up a Rift S, or a Quest as both are in stock on Oculus' own website right now, but I'm going to wait for the Reverb G2, or Quest 2. Ideally the next Quest will have a better refresh rate, FOV, and dedicated PCVR support instead of using the Link software, but if it doesn't I'll just get the G2. Thanks for the heads up! Just ordered an S with an estimated delivery of the 28th! Can’t wait.
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Jun 17, 2020 21:22
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You're looking at getting in line to wait for an Index, or hunting up a Vive Pro Starter Edition (roughly $1,100USD, and Amazon has one left at a quick glance to see how hard they are to get now). I'd lean to the latter if your interpupilary distance is broader than 70mm (you can measure it with a ruler in a mirror). The upcoming Reverb G2 might work, but its IPD range is only 60-68mm, which is why I'd go with the Vive Pro if your IPD's broader than that. FWIW the sweetspot for IPD is quite generous, +/- 5mm for me at least.
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Jun 17, 2020 21:29
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I downloaded some IPD checker app and how accurate are they? I know you can use a ruler but eh.
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Jun 17, 2020 21:34
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this whole thing is annoying, because 'minimum requirements' only mean something to someone who knows if a GTX is better than a TI or worse than a Ryzen or whatever the gently caress. I don't really care about new hardware except every 4 years when I look at logical increments and get what they tell me to For a rift S, I believe all I need is a new GPU My CPU is an FX8320, i've got 16GB of DDR3, and a GTX660. According to the web site, I guess I just need to get a 1060 and then I can do this huh
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hhhat posted:this whole thing is annoying, because 'minimum requirements' only mean something to someone who knows if a GTX is better than a TI or worse than a Ryzen or whatever the gently caress. I don't really care about new hardware except every 4 years when I look at logical increments and get what they tell me to First, Logical Increments is a terrible build site, PC Part Picker is way better and their general build guides are really solid. The 10xx series of GPUs is discontinued which is for the best because my PC with similar CPU and a 1060 struggles with VR a lot of the time. The current equivalent is a GTX 1660, but I'd upgrade that CPU as well if you can, the pre-Ryzen AMD CPUs are pretty rough. And if PC building scares you in general, that's what the Quest is for.
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The FX8320 is also almost 8 years old now. VR games are still like, newer video games and I can see that being a bottleneck.
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njsykora posted:First, Logical Increments is a terrible build site, PC Part Picker is way better and their general build guides are really solid. The 10xx series of GPUs is discontinued which is for the best because my PC with similar CPU and a 1060 struggles with VR a lot of the time. The current equivalent is a GTX 1660, but I'd upgrade that CPU as well if you can, the pre-Ryzen AMD CPUs are pretty rough. ok so like, that's basically a new computer at this point huh PC building doesn't scare me, I been doing it since the time when we had to know which jumper to put where  I really just can't be arsed to care about new poo poo unless i'm getting a thing for methanks for the recommendation, I've used logical increments one time, 4 years ago, it was useful for matching parts together so I liked it I don't want a quest, I want to sit down and video game for the most part, but maybe periodically i'll stand up I guess Mr Luxury Yacht posted:The FX8320 is also almost 8 years old now. VR games are still like, newer video games and I can see that being a bottleneck. I kinda figured I was going to need an update eventually, this seems like a good time to do it, or not, either way, I'm gonna check it out. I like your user name
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seconding pcpartpicker, it's really good.
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All FX series processors were junk when they came out, 8 years later is not making them any better. That processor is a major and common bottleneck of VR systems and replacing that processor is a priorityZ
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I feel like this might be a stupid question but I have an i7 8700K with a 1080TI and 16gigs of ram... would bumping it up to 32gigs be a worth it at all in terms of VR? My gut is saying no but I just figured I'd ask because its not a huge cost outlay if it would be worth it.
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MarcusSA posted:I feel like this might be a stupid question but I have an i7 8700K with a 1080TI and 16gigs of ram... would bumping it up to 32gigs be a worth it at all in terms of VR? Nope. RAM is not a bottleneck.
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Munkaboo posted:Nope. RAM is not a bottleneck. Unless you play horribly programmed trash like DCS World. *sigh*
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Inacio posted:seconding pcpartpicker, it's really good. yeah i played around with it a bit and I'm seeing the goodness thanks again for that link
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i must compose posted:Dirt Rally 2 is fun with a controller and sometimes scary as poo poo Also currently available in a Humble Bundle https://www.humblebundle.com/games/codemasters-2020-bundle
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so i finally tried out assetto corsa in VR for the first time and... holy poo poo, it actually just works perfectly! seeing my current car crush (2011 WRX hatchback  ) 1:1 real size was enough motivation to do it, and it rocks!
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Shine posted:Unless you play horribly programmed trash like DCS World. *sigh* Or VRChat, where optimizing your avatar would mean putting effort cleaning up that 100,000+ poly MMD model you found on DeviantArt in all its unnecessarily-highly-detailed glory...
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Or VRChat, where optimizing your avatar would mean putting effort cleaning up that 100,000+ poly MMD model you found on DeviantArt in all its unnecessarily-highly-detailed glory...
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Combat Pretzel posted:Imagine VRChat on that Unreal Engine 5, that supposedly decimates high poly models dynamically. What you're thinking is optimization. How it would be used is as a challenge to use even larger models  .
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Why does VRChat have a jump button? I almost threw up when I found that one.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Or VRChat, where optimizing your avatar would mean putting effort cleaning up that 100,000+ poly MMD model you found on DeviantArt in all its unnecessarily-highly-detailed glory... i don't want to know the things VRChat users would model in excruciating detail if they had the budget. FakeFactory's FULLY MODELED comes to mind.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Why does VRChat have a jump button? I almost threw up when I found that one. Because it's an open platform built on Unity, and there's plenty of game worlds made in it. Especially with the new SDK3 exposing a LOT of Unity components via its Udon node graphs. Bit of trivia in that regard is world creators can custom-set jump height, walk and run speeds for their world so in some of them you can wind up going for a real fun ride .
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Why does VRChat have a jump button? I almost threw up when I found that one. Because you need to jump sometimes?
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Trover Was supposed to be out on the quest today but it’s still on pre-order. I find this to be quite odd.
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thelaughingman posted:Trover Was supposed to be out on the quest today but it’s still on pre-order. I find this to be quite odd. It looks fine to me: https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2718107161580827/
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Turin Turambar posted:It looks fine to me: Silly me, I use my older card number.  Edit: I feel like quite the fool.
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Skyrim VR on steam sale for $18, worth it? Having done Skyrim back in the day already, of course.
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Bad Munki posted:Skyrim VR on steam sale for $18, worth it? Having done Skyrim back in the day already, of course. Neither SkyrimVR nor Fallout 4 VR are good VR games in a sense that they're not natively designed/implemented to be VR games but I'd say if you liked playing either before then experiencing the world and the setpieces in it in VR are a lot of fun. I've played and beaten FO4VR, working my way through Skyrim now using vr desktop and a quest.
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Bad Munki posted:Skyrim VR on steam sale for $18, worth it? Having done Skyrim back in the day already, of course. I really enjoyed it, it's much more immersive in VR. The mods are still fantastic and there are quite a few VR specific mods that help immensely. Melee is pretty meh in VR as can be expected, but sneaky archer or mage was just fine.
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Bad Munki posted:Skyrim VR on steam sale for $18, worth it? Having done Skyrim back in the day already, of course. Get Wabbajack and the VR Essentials modpack if you want the laziest way to play "good" Skyrim VR. It's one I'm doing now and although I've got an embarrassing amount of hours in Skyrim already, it feels like I'm playing it again for the first time almost.
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Nukelear v.2 posted:I really enjoyed it, it's much more immersive in VR. The mods are still fantastic and there are quite a few VR specific mods that help immensely. I hadn't thought of it before, but how does the sneaking work in those bethsoft VR ports? Do you have to like squat down like in the originals?
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Granted I didn't mess much with mods, but Skyrim VR was pretty bad to me because I can't suspend my disbelief and work within its combat system. Not to say that games like Gorn or Blade & Sorcery are accurate real-world depictions of melee combat, but they check the very basic boxes of if I shove a dagger straight through their forehead, they die and such. Skyrim VR doesn't work for me because it feels weird to shove a dagger into someone's face, and they're fine because it's a Dagger of Wilted Foreskin that does 3 damage, and the enemy has 100 hit points, so I gotta stab their face dozens of times. That doesn't bug me when I'm clicking my mouse to swing the dagger on my monitor, but I just can't do it in VR without getting annoyed. Plus, the object interactivity, inventory and such are super basic by VR standards, since it wasn't originally built for VR. YMMV. It's a very "traditional video game mechanics" experience in VR, which some people enjoy, but others (like me) get all "my immersion!!!!  " about it.
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Now that I built a beefy pc and can do pcvr games via link, what are some of the best experiences. Don't care about action/shooting combat poo poo, but more meditative, atmospheric, awe inspiring, moody, or lowkey stuff. I've already tried No Man's Sky vr and love it. A couple of years ago someone built a replica of Deckard's apartment from Blade Runner in unity vr before he got shut down by the production company and it owns. poo poo like that.
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Shine posted:Granted I didn't mess much with mods, but Skyrim VR was pretty bad to me because I can't suspend my disbelief and work within its combat system. Not to say that games like Gorn or Blade & Sorcery are accurate real-world depictions of melee combat, but they check the very basic boxes of if I shove a dagger straight through their forehead, they die and such. Skyrim VR doesn't work for me because it feels weird to shove a dagger into someone's face, and they're fine because it's a Dagger of Wilted Foreskin that does 3 damage, and the enemy has 100 hit points, so I gotta stab their face dozens of times. That doesn't bug me when I'm clicking my mouse to swing the dagger on my monitor, but I just can't do it in VR without getting annoyed. Plus, the object interactivity, inventory and such are super basic by VR standards, since it wasn't originally built for VR. Protip: just use arrows and magic. I have Yennifer from Witcher 3 as a companion and she kicks rear end for that sort of stuff.
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