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Hwurmp posted:How do you actually separate a Mackerel airlock? The airlock structure itself is connecting the outer hull segment to the internal frame, so you have to cut up the airlock chamber walls as well.
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I can see the four cutty bars on each side, but cutting them doesn't do the job.
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Ciaphas posted:Have you worked out what, if any, the difference between Furnace, Processing and Barge is besides "part X goes to destination A to meet your work order"? What goes down when, at the end of a shift, I go "oh, gently caress it" and send the whole remaining chunk of that loving airlock - nanostuff, lovely cheap aluminum, and all - into Processing with a second remaining? I guess I'm paid for the nanowhatever and told to just gently caress off for the aluminum? Yeah as someone covered, you've got it. In the game world sense barge is for "objects" like chairs, computers, engines, stuff you pull out in one piece and reuse. Processor is recovering bulk valuable materials like the hull and keel and things they can reuse with a little clean up (also you tend not to slice these at least with the tools we have at this point), and furnace is for recycling broken stuff like we do with rebar or cardboard today: throw a lot of poo poo in it for cheap recoverable materials. With airlocks, after my original complaint and then messing around I think I've got them somewhat figured out. I save them for last so at the end my ships are basically a box of the aluminum sheeting and framing that was the skin of the interior rooms with only the sections covering the airlock(s and cockpit with gecko) the only outer recognizable sections. Usually theres a few chairs or computer monitors or those awkward shaped storage units that are deep enough in it just wasn't worth my time and money to be thorough. I go in the gap between hull and room and basically Revengance that poo poo, just cut it up until the hull is free of the airlock. Tether the hull plates into the processor, and then whatever you have left of that interior aluminum skeleton chop into managable (as large as possible that you can move with tether) chunks and throw them in the furnace. I have a feeling there's not actually an elegant way to do it, which annoyed me at first but now I'm starting to appreciate may be a design decision and hint at stuff later on that where your ability to separate pieces isn't quite so simple and clean. It definitely makes managing those sections less straightforward and gives you an excuse to go ham with the laser saw which is honestly lacking in the first ship. As a general rule if something has a near even mix of processor and furnace bound junk, process it; the value you get there seems to be much greater. Also big props to whoever suggested using saw mode to take out multiple cutpoints in a row, if you're careful you can pop 3 or 4 in a line, although they start to get less regularly placed in the second ship. Stinger mode sucks saw mode forever. threelemmings fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Yeah I'm on a 6700K and a GTX 1070 and it's mostly stable around 60 but as soon as something starts to go wrong it really does become somewhat of a slideshow. Once all the particles separate it goes back to normal but when things go boom it brings my PC to it's knees.
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Hwurmp posted:How do you actually separate a Mackerel airlock? You need to use the saw tooth and cut the aluminum panels on the side of the airlock away from the hull and maybe the support braces?. It's not attached to the bars you can melt and separate., you can get all the sections around the airlock pulled away separately but still have the airlock stuck.
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Maybe it changes by the Gecko but I  Mackerels straight into the processor mostly. Gut the core, drives, seats, cargo out the bottom to the barge. Drop the nacelles to the barge. Break each rib joint and tether the whole goddamn slices to the processor. There's enough titanium to cover work orders to not worry about peasant aluminum.Titanium probably getting nerfed in this case because I really barely use the furnace unless I'm accidentally holding a piece of the airlock or something.
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zedprime posted:Not magic, but also something you plan from the start. Which adds water to the business decision thing. yeah absolutely agree, it usually can't be an afterthought. But they haven't completely outruled the existence either in their FAQ so I assume it is more a matter of resource allocation and the base game taking enough time from a probably small team.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I would bet you’re GPU bound, not CPU bound. Plenty of old CPUms still hold up fine. Shipbreakers might be an odd case because there’s a lot of physics objects. What specs do you have? i5-4570 GTX 970
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Sokani posted:i5-4570 Oh, yeah, you’re definitely CPU bound though the 970 is probably starting to show its age finally. God that card had a long lifespan.
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is there somewhere i can get a good video of a money shot in hardspace shipbreaker? the trailer doesn't include any sweet depressurization things or anything. I wanna show someone a thing absolutely blowing up.
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downloaded a few more demos.. tonight I'll be trying Crimson Diamond, Cris Tales, Exit, Exophobia, Jessika, Lore Finder, Mutropolis, Outrider Mako, Street Cleaner, The Almost Gone, Vigil the Longest Night, and Wargirl I was trying to find demos of games that are coming out soon but pretty much the majority of demos in the genres I care about are all TBA 2020 or 2021.
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Impermanent posted:is there somewhere i can get a good video of a money shot in hardspace shipbreaker? the trailer doesn't include any sweet depressurization things or anything. I wanna show someone a thing absolutely blowing up. Are these good enough?
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Sonel posted:You need to use the saw tooth and cut the aluminum panels on the side of the airlock away from the hull and maybe the support braces?. It's not attached to the bars you can melt and separate., you can get all the sections around the airlock pulled away separately but still have the airlock stuck. After some more testing I can say it's a little janky trying to get that airlock out. You do all the cutting from inside the ship in the areas around the cutting marks, make sure to get the beams at the top and bottom of the ship as well. However if their is a nacelle attached to the section next to the airlock the two sections may be stuck together so you would have to cut both sections free to get the airlock out. I essentially demolished almost an entire airlock and they were still stuck together. I did learn how to free the cockpit while I was messing around so that was fun.
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Grounded Demo: https://i.imgur.com/reim31T.mp4 
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Man, that Carrion demo is so much fun.
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Has anyone played Wintermoor Tactics Club? I keep seeing it pop up because of the number of SRPGs I play on Steam (that number being like, 3), so I was wondering how it was? It's unfortunate that the game does kinda scream "Will be on a Humble Bundle within 6 months" though.
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Cowcaster posted:wasn’t there a whole article interviewing the xcom 2 guy which coined the phrase “gamers will optimize all the fun out of a game” when discussing how they added time limits in 2 because they wanted to encourage players not to spend 3 hours moving a single soldier at a time overwatch creeping through a mission It was the the Civ4 designer (Soren Johnson): https://www.designer-notes.com/?p=369
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Curious Expedition 2 is in Early Access. The sequel looks uh... Very different.
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Here are the demos I tried out: Earth From Another Sun For what promises to be a Mount & Borderlands roguelike what I found was an incomprehensible mess that took forever to load and looked like a two-dollar asset flip. The shooting and movement was actually alright, but I have no idea what I was supposed to be doing other than shooting the basic pistol at space marines who it seemed would sometimes be harmed by it and die while some insect things threw coloured balls at me that were beyond trivial to avoid. I stopped playing once I died, which occurred because my wireless keyboard ran out of batteries and the game was so shonky I didn't even think twice that the reason I could no longer move wasn't because I appeared to have become stuck inside an enemy's model until I couldn't escape out of the game. Builders of Egypt Builders of Egypt was an unreadable mess of tan lettering on black backgrounds. I went through the tutorial on how to build an amazing Egyptian city until the third step which was to delete some roads, at which point all of the music and sound immediately cut out and the tutorial failed to move on, which because the tutorial locks you out of every tool but the one it wants you to interact with meant that the rest of the game was completely inaccessible. I could still use the menu to exit the game, which I promptly did.
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Ghostlight posted:Builders of Egypt
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I wonder if these devs were under a contract to get a demo out on the day the event started no matter what or something like that. I don't think anybody involved with the creation of it would want the demo for EarthBreakers to be released in the state it is unless they were absolutely required to.
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I wouldn't say they were forced to, but so many of these are small indie studios with little to no marketing budget, making a special event on the largest digital platform for selling games a golden opportunity to promote their product, even if the best they can push out is something barely functional but that might still put it on people's radar.
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Yeah a lot of these demos are really rough. On the demo review note: Red Solstice 2: Survivors: It's Alien Swarm, but as an RTS derivative so the controls are wonkier than they need to be. The map is massive, the missions are at least somewhat procedural, there's tons of gear and seemingly interesting progression. But there's no singleplayer, no matchmaking or public hosting for multiplayer and it's absolutely not tuned for 1 or even 2 players. So unless you can convince 3-4 other people to play it with you, you're probably going to spend your time getting eaten by zombies/mutants. The game itself seems very fun though, the enemies are varied, the guns feel good to shoot despite the RTS-derivative controls and it's decently pretty. DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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GrandpaPants posted:Has anyone played Wintermoor Tactics Club? I keep seeing it pop up because of the number of SRPGs I play on Steam (that number being like, 3), so I was wondering how it was? It's really charming and quite short. If you had a D&D group as a teen and enjoy some light strategy, you'll like it for sure.
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Det_no posted:Grounded Demo: I wish this wasn't a survival game, I've never been able to get into those but I love Obsidian games and the premise of this game seems like so much fun.
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I was pretty surprised that the Pendragon demo seemed so uninspired to me. I hope it just reflects poorly on a good game instead of being a sign that the game itself is bad, but I played through once as Lancelot and once as Guinevere and both had pretty much the same scenarios in the same order and the gameplay was dull. I read a preview that said there's a map layer that isn't in the demo where you can pick your path, and I assume the tactical gameplay will open up more as the game progresses too (and there will be more story of course), but as it stands I wasn't impressed at all.
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all the good stuff is in 2D this year, 2020 is the year of 2D again, sorry 3d boys
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a couple more demo impressions from yesterday: YesterMorrow seems like a decent story-driven 2D platformer, although it doesn't really give a sense of how the time-travel mechanic factors into the game's puzzles. It also feels like a Metroidvania, but the dev says it isn't? Eastern Exorcist is a solid 2D hack-and-slash with nice art and animation, not sure how much variety the full game will offer though
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Desperados 3 seems really drat good. Having only played the demos for both games, it seems a lot more freeform and open than Shadow Tactics.
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few more demo impressions: Say NO! More: gimmicky game about learning to say "no" to overcome your hellish office job. on-rails, using mostly one button and with a low-poly PS1 art style, though I guess maybe it's most akin to Sega's Model 2 arcade games. there's no way this can sustain a full-length game, but if it stays short, it should be pretty fun Dreamcatcher: walking simulator with some horror elements about an unemployed Chinese man navigating both real life and his dreams. nothing terribly original here and the translation is dodgy but I've played much worse in the genre, and it at least looks to have some striking visuals in some of the dream sequences A Juggler's Tale: 2.5D cinematic platformer where everyone is a puppet, something that only really impacts the puzzle design towards the end of the demo. also, voices are way too loud. seems reasonably polished, though Tool Boy: I confess to not actually playing this, because a 2.5D platformer having no working controller support is indefensible
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Just Quad SLI your 2080TI's. Come on, it's easy. [They are always sold out anyway.] - I'm curious about Desperados. I might try out that demo. I'm going to install it right now. I didn't like Shadow Tactics though so I'm not going to be surprised if I dislike Desperados III.
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Det_no posted:Grounded Demo: Even as someone who doesn't normally freak out at the sight of video game spiders, that's a big  from me.
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More demos... LAZR - this platformer has style for miles, but it's another of the "very short level and lots of them" type. its cloth physics don't feel that impressive, and it's just not my type of game.  Lore Finder - the second Metroidvania I've played in this festival, this one has a LOT of promise. A queer Lovecraftian mystery, you play a nonbinary protagonist exploring an otherworldly house in search of their father. You start with just a pistol (which is slow to fire), but eventually gain supernatural powers as you gain pages of knowledge, like summoning an eye blast from your hand, or growing a tentacle arm to cling to walls Mega Man X style. Gonna wishlist this one for sure... but they do have some optimization ahead of them. A lot of stuttering/hiccups while playing. Street Cleaner - has the feel of a Sunsoft NES game, but feels clunky to play and the demo level is full of sine-wave pattern enemies. why.  War Girl is pretty loving rad. It's the second game by Suits & Sandals (Khimera), and it looks like they're ready to hit the bigtime. Unlike Khimera, which was a great freeware game but had really awkward looking visuals, War Girl has a fantastic look. And they've gone in a Bleed/Noitu Love direction with the mouse & keyboard platforming & aimed shooting. Also looks to be Cave Story-esque weapon XP. This feels like the complete package. It also comes out in September, aw yea. The Almost Gone is an isometric escape room puzzle game.. I suspect the character's a ghost or something hence the title.. it's fine. It reminds me a bit of the Get Out Kids which is an Apple Arcade game with similar mechanics. This one actually releases fully next week. Aurora the Last Medallion... just kind of a mediocre point n click adventure game. Reminded me of Daedalic's earlier lower-budget stuff. Lord Winklebottom Investigates is slightly better but needs a bit higher of a budget for its voice acting, imo. Willy Morgan...you know what this one's actually alright. The character design could be tweaked, but the engine is friendly to the modern adventure game player, I liked the distorted and handcraft-looking backgrounds.. it's a rare nice mix of 3D models and pre-rendered. It seems like they understand proper adventure game logic. Also the subtitle is "The Curse of Bone Town" and that's just an incredible grouping of words. Vigil: The Longest Night is a 2D soulslike but you just get XP instead of having souls you can lose. I don't really care about Soulslikes THAT much, but especially in 2D, the only good one I've played is Blasphemous or maybe Momodora Reverie. This isn't that interesting to me. Yestermorrow just didn't have enough mechanically to interest me. There needed to be more. The demo should maybe have been a later vertical slice. Going Under is very cute, great aesthetic, but it's a roguelite and I just don't have room in my life for those. I'm very tired of those. This isn't for me. ProtoCorgi rules. Great shmup, great Virt-esque music, great art. Good food good folks good fun. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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quote:Ostranauts: The NEO Scavenger dev is making a space scavenger type of game, I am excited. The demo gave me the impression they're miles away from the Summer 2020 window advertised.
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C.M. Kruger posted:Project Haven: Didn't finish the first mission. AP based XCOM style game, felt slow and clunky, got really tired of one character quipping "YOU GONNA BLAME IT ON LADY CRAMPS?" every time the other missed a shot. Project Haven Description posted:Project Haven is a Tactical Turn-Based RPG with a gritty story for a mature audience. Alone or with up to three friends, you command the Steel Dragons, a mercenary outfit fighting for survival in the harsh, urban near-future that is Haven City. lol
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Maturely Boooooooooooooobs
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Took a little break and then came back with a vengeance on this puzzle in The Witness. E: I spilled my drink too when I discovered the solution and jerked myself up to the computer. (I was solving it while sitting on the floor.) Jamfrost fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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