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Ah I thought that one didn't count towards the 100%. Finally playing through this new content and I really like it. Seems like a great addition. I'm also surprised at how much I enjoy Akechi in the new semester. I didn't really like him in the vanilla content even the new social link stuff. Having his true self be on display instead makes him much more enjoyable.
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cheesetriangles posted:Akechi in the new semester. I didn't really like him in the vanilla content even the new social link stuff. Having his true self be on display instead makes him much more enjoyable. Best navigator.
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cheesetriangles posted:So I'm finally finishing up P5R after falling off in the middle of November's palace when I got Covid. I missed the Hope Diamond treasure demon and I'm in the new semester. Is there a chance to get it still? I'm gonna be really mad if I miss 100% compendium completion because of 1 treasure demon. Plus it's not a PSN achievement this time, it's a Thieves Den cheevo.
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Well, just tried Okumura.  Honestly, this fight would probably be less of a pain if one of the party members learned Matarunda. I might do the Merciless trick.
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Do Confidant ranks carry over to NG+? October just yanks all control away from your character. I'm not going to be able to max Maruki, the one guy on a time limit, since he leaves in November apparently.
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Jun 16, 2020 19:46
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They do not, but social stats do. So assuming you max your stats out in the first playthrough, you don't need to waste any time slots studying/eating burgers/etc and can focus solely on social links.
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Whew, beat Okumura on Hard (party was Morgana/Makoto/Yusuke, swapped Makoto out for Ann for the big robot for Tarunda). Made use of the elemental items for Baton Passing for big Maeiga damage at the end for the green robots after using Marakunda. For the big robot, Morgana Baton Passed after Miracle Punch to Yusuke for big damage since they can be critted.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Do Confidant ranks carry over to NG+? October just yanks all control away from your character. I'm not going to be able to max Maruki, the one guy on a time limit, since he leaves in November apparently. That's bad, you need him and Akechi at Rank 8 to unlock the bonus dungeon. Are you sure you won't be able to do it? The last two ranks for both are free.
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Cloacamazing! posted:That's bad, you need him and Akechi at Rank 8 to unlock the bonus dungeon. Are you sure you won't be able to do it? The last two ranks for both are free. I'm at rank 7 right now and it's the 23rd. I had been visiting Chihaya nonstop early on to brute-force it and then the game decides "Hey know what would be great? We're taking away all control of your character for the next two weeks, hope you like exams and culture festivals!"
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Jun 16, 2020 20:49
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And Tyler Too! posted:I'm at rank 7 right now and it's the 23rd. I had been visiting Chihaya nonstop early on to brute-force it and then the game decides "Hey know what would be great? We're taking away all control of your character for the next two weeks, hope you like exams and culture festivals!" He doesn't leave until November 18th, you can still do it. I was wrong about only needing rank 8, you'll need 9 for him and 8 for Akechi, but it's completely doable.
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Do you think Persona 5 Scramble has a chance to come out sooner rather than later? It is being released in Chinese/Korean June 18th. Atlus is going to be at the New Game Plus Expo https://personacentral.com/new-game-plus-expo-teaser-trailer/ I really hope for a release date for this summer!
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And Tyler Too! posted:I'm at rank 7 right now and it's the 23rd. I had been visiting Chihaya nonstop early on to brute-force it and then the game decides "Hey know what would be great? We're taking away all control of your character for the next two weeks, hope you like exams and culture festivals!" The game throws a bunch of chances to meet with him and Akechi the couple weeks before the deadline.
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Jun 17, 2020 05:13
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I'm curious if more details about P5's earlier globe trotting story were released. Was it still centered on school life, and how would that have worked? Breaker High style?
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And Tyler Too! posted:gently caress OKUMURA no boss fight should have such a deep level of bullshit. Your party's DPS had better be at its loving apex in order to kill each wave of robots before the wave replaces itself, and then there's a loving time limit. Someone please tell me this lovely boss has a cheese strat, I just want to move forward with the game. Looking back on it I really appreciate this fight. Like, it’s the only time in the game where I felt I had to abuse the baton pass stat buffs.
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I wish Sae's fight made greater use of that roulette wheel. Once you reach 50% the fight changes into a boring meatgrinder.
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Is it possible to inherit the Holy Whisper skill from Maria? I'm guessing no. I finally beat P5R and man I really enjoyed it. The new content was actually really good and the mechanical changes were nice. The mouse puzzle still is too loving long.
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DrManiac posted:Looking back on it I really appreciate this fight. Like, it’s the only time in the game where I felt I had to abuse the baton pass stat buffs. Yeah it's kind of a pain but it's actually fun that a boss in the middle of the story is challenging, since usually in Persona games you just start steamrolling from the 3rd or 4th dungeons on. I do think it could use a tiny bit of tweaking, since you need Dekaja on Ann or Joker to take them down in one assault if you don't have the equivalent item. Joker being the only source of (Ma)Rakunda is also a bit annoying unless you've taken Futaba to the Jazz Club and got a lucky roll. Anyway, started the Casino and Confidants are in a good shape. I actually don't remember finishing Makoto's SL so late, since she's still only on Rank 7 for me, but I guess the Charm requirement locked me out for longer than I'd expected. But most of the Night time links are chugging along and I'm just about at the point where they'll all need help in Mementos, so I can knock them out in one swoop.
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I've now gotten further into P5R than I've ever gotten in P5, and I'm starting to feel overwhelmed by choices a little bit? I'm trying to keep reasonably well balanced but there's always so many things to choose from every day that I have occasionally been paralyzed into indecision. I have a number of confidants up to level 4-5 in mid-June (just got asked by Makoto to take down our next target) but most of my stats are 2-3. I know there are confidants you have to max out or close enough by Oct? but I also know there are potentially stat checks I need to be worried about. I was trying to avoid using a guide and not worry so much about min-maxing but I also don't want to screw things up for myself. Any crucial non-super spoilery advice that might help me out with this? I know I see people complain in this thread about hanging out with confidants when you know it's not going to increase your bond, but is it occasionally necessary? It doesn't seem like there's enough extra bonuses to get them all to that point without the occasional hangout session not related to bond increase. Tia for any advice y'all veterans can offer.
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Calm down, you have enough time. Just focus on the confidants you like or that seem like they give good abilities. 2-3 for stats seems good for June. Some confidants have ridiculously high stat checks for when you unlock them (Hanged Man, Priestess), just ignore them until you get the stats. You probably already know this, but always bring a Persona of the matching arcana to confidant events. It gives you additional points to their link. The exceptions are plot-based links (like Magician), and Moon and Sun who always rank up, no matter which answers you pick. Fortune (should unlock during the summer) gives you an ability to buy a relationship boost for one confidant per day without spending time. This is really good. She also has a number of other useful abilities, so focus on her. You do need 100k and a Mementos trip to get her started. Temperance gives you additional timeslots to boost your stats in, and at max rank allows you to go out and do stuff after visiting Palaces/Mementos. If you're hurting for money, Sun gives you the ability to ask for more money during negotiation. You should be able to get that at this point. Later, Star gives you additional money if you defeat an enemy in one turn. Fortune has an ability that gives you more money if you defeat an enemy with an all-out attack. Chariot gives you the ability to insta-kill any enemy with a low enough level, which counts as an all-out-attack. You'll want Councillor at Rank 9 and Justice at Rank 8 by November 18th. Faith needs to be at Rank 5 by the end of December. Sun also becomes unavailable at either November or December, not entirely sure when. Almost every non-party member confidant has a Mementos quest, usually around Rank 8. Collect several of them before you go to Mementos.
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Since I just got P5R on PS4 and P4G on Steam, I’m repaying both. I’ve decided that Ryuji’s Persona moment is more better than Yosuke’s Persona moment. Edit: also, what’s the consensus on P2? Worth playing through both of them?
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chaosapiant posted:Since I just got P5R on PS4 and P4G on Steam, I’m repaying both. I’ve decided that Ryuji’s Persona moment is more better than Yosuke’s Persona moment. Yeah. Ryuji had a way better motivation, and a lot more at stake.
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This is not related to anything, but for the last couple days the NPR show Marketplace has been using music from the P5 soundtrack between stories. Today they used the instrumental version of `Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There' and yesterday they had one of the instrumental versions of `Behind the Mask'.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Yeah. Ryuji had a way better motivation, and a lot more at stake. It kind of comes with the territory. All the P5 kids have some history of tragedy or abuse, so they have built in motivation in their development. The P4 kids are all relatively normal (excluding Rise and Naoto) and have generally good home lives, so they are usually focused on fairly basic teenage stuff.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Calm down, you have enough time. Just focus on the confidants you like or that seem like they give good abilities. 2-3 for stats seems good for June. Some confidants have ridiculously high stat checks for when you unlock them (Hanged Man, Priestess), just ignore them until you get the stats. Just wanted to say thank you for this write up, it was super informative and helpful! I'm back at it and having fun again. Also, I know it's based off the same real place that Kamurocho is based off of, but I am still tickled by getting to go to Shinjuku and how much Crossroads Bar reminds me of the little bar in the Champion District in Yakuza. 
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P4 will always be “Anime Scooby Doo” to me and, as a kid from the 80s when that cartoon was still popular, it’s very near and dear to my heart.
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Finished Palace 6 and actually almost done with Confidants. Outside of the story links and Empress (who's at Rank 4), everyone else is finished or at Ranks 8/9 (Hermit, Devil, Fortune, Hanged, Star, Tower). I'm guessing I'll have quite a bit of free time actually once I mop up the night links, so it'll just be video games, coffee and jazz. Royal really did make maximizing this stuff easier (I remember in my first playthrough of the base game the only non-party links I had finished by the end were Hierophant, Death, Hanged Man, Sun and Tower).
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chaosapiant posted:P4 will always be “Anime Scooby Doo” to me and, as a kid from the 80s when that cartoon was still popular, it’s very near and dear to my heart.  You’re not alone.
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Geostomp posted:
Holy poo poo that is perfect! So whose the best romance in P5R? I only played up to the third palace in the original game and am starting over in Royal. Ann was going to be my waifu in the first game but I never really got that far. Hows the new chick? Is she a good romance option? I don't care about mary sues or any of that stuff, it's a silly anime game, I just want to see some good content without romancing a child (literal or otherwise) or the teacher. Another question...WTF is there still no Eternal Punishment PSP in English? The game on PSP exists, and the English script exists in the PSone version. How hard could it be to mash those two together? It'd absolutely outsell the little bit of effort it'd take to use the original Playstation's English port into the already existing Japanese PSP port. Why why why? Thanks for listening!
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'Best' is going to always be very subjective. Honestly all of them are fine depending on who you like, just don't romance your little sister surrogate. I've personally done Ann and Haru, but I guess if I ever gave the game a fourth(?) go I might try Kasumi. Or just look it up online becaseu I don't know if I have another 80+ hours after I'm done with this first run.
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chaosapiant posted:So whose the best romance in P5R? I only played up to the third palace in the original game and am starting over in Royal. Ann was going to be my waifu in the first game but I never really got that far. Hows the new chick? Is she a good romance option? I don't care about mary sues or any of that stuff, it's a silly anime game, I just want to see some good content without romancing a child (literal or otherwise) or the teacher. Honestly just go with your gut and romance whoever you find interesting as a character. Nobody is really a "better" option over another mechanically because all the romances have the same problem: once you max out your waifu's social link there's really not much of anything to do with them besides some pre-scripted story events. You can take them on dates but they're all pretty generic with only minor dialogue changes, and they ultimately just waste valuable timeslots. Royal pushes Yoshizawa on your pretty hard as the "canon" love interest, and she's... fine? I think her social link is pretty weak. You also can't actually choose to romance her until well into January, which means a) it barely has time to breathe before the game ends, and b) she doesn't have a Christmas event like every other girl. If you want to meet all the romance options before settling on somebody, then here's a list of them by arcana: Lovers, Priestess, Hermit, Empress, Temperance, Devil, Death, Fortune, Faith, Star. As long as you're not completely ignoring the optional ones, you should have meet all of them by the fifth palace.
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chaosapiant posted:So whose the best romance in P5R? I only played up to the third palace in the original game and am starting over in Royal. Ann was going to be my waifu in the first game but I never really got that far. Hows the new chick? Is she a good romance option? I don't care about mary sues or any of that stuff, it's a silly anime game, I just want to see some good content without romancing a child (literal or otherwise) or the teacher. Akechi is the canon love interest. Possibly Morgana too. I'm not even kidding.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Akechi is the canon love interest. Possibly Morgana too. I'm not even kidding. That's a weird way to spell Ryuji. I'm right around infiltrating Shido's palace and he calls you one night going 'uh once we beat Shido... nevermind.' which could totally be a "I'm gonna confess" flag in another universe.
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SubG posted:This is not related to anything, but for the last couple days the NPR show Marketplace has been using music from the P5 soundtrack between stories. Today they used the instrumental version of `Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There' and yesterday they had one of the instrumental versions of `Behind the Mask'. Not surprising. I used to play Magic with one of the producers for Marketplace before COVID hit. He's about as big a dork as the rest of us. 
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chaosapiant posted:Holy poo poo that is perfect! “Best” is a subjective idea. One that lead to the endless Waifu Wars with creepy obsessive nerds online. However, there are two who are most notable: Makoto and Yoshizawa. Prior to Royal, Makoto was considered the closest thing to a “canon” love interest given her importance to the plot and a few scenes with her that nobody else got. Not to mention her confidant was all about being her pretend boyfriend before making it official. She also gets scenes in the dancing spinoff where the characters like Ann, Futaba, and even Ryuji get excited when Joker picks flirting options with Makoto that nobody else gets. As said earlier, Royal really pushes the new character, Yoshizawa on the player despite the fact that she isn’t able to be romanced until the new semester. Long after all the scenes with the others that were in the base game. She’s inoffensive and her backstory is considered well done, but that’s about all I can say for her. Her personality is boring, she has no interaction with the team, and she’s only with you for a very brief time. Even during the period she’s actually important, she’s kind of unnecessary to the events short of providing a bit of context. She gets a lot of scenes outside her actual confidant that tick off as many anime romance tropes as they can and she spends the game fawning over Joker at every opportunity. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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ApplesandOranges posted:I've personally done Ann and Haru, but I guess if I ever gave the game a fourth(?) go I might try Kasumi. Or just look it up online becaseu I don't know if I have another 80+ hours after I'm done with this first run. Makoto and Ann are the two I've done and I like them both well enough. Haru is the most depressing if you turn her down, though. I just can't with the 20+ choices. (And honestly having watched them I don't think any of them are super great anyway.)
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Dawgstar posted:Makoto and Ann are the two I've done and I like them both well enough. Haru is the most depressing if you turn her down, though. I just can't with the 20+ choices. (And honestly having watched them I don't think any of them are super great anyway.) Ann was the first link I maxed in royal just coincidentally and I know that "You have the others" isn't as brutal as the english translation lends it to be but I will never not pick that option because it's the funniest response to someone being open and vulnerable to you that could possibly be written so i just romanced nobody and the batchelor valentine's day is funnier anyway
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romance everyone, only god can judge you
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Brother Entropy posted:romance everyone, only god can judge you no he can't we shot him in his triangle face
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The social aspect of the game leans a little too hard into minmaxing I think, sometimes I wanna hit some baseballs without feeling guilty about missing out on a conversation with someone i'm also not really sure how to fix it since there's not really a game if you don't have to do time management, just something I've observed. maybe have separate time slots for activites and conversations or something idk wyoak fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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wyoak posted:The social aspect of the game leans a little too hard into minmaxing I think, sometimes I wanna hit some baseballs without feeling guilty about missing out on a conversation with someone A third time slot would be great. Say it was restricted in some manner, like only being able to do some basic chore like laundry or one of the quicker social stat activities. Keep it open on all but the most plot critical days so we could always have something going on and not intrude on the social links/confidants. It would lessen a lot of stress that comes from the days you can’t hang out with anyone and encourage you to do things like darts and the like. As opposed to now when every moment you aren’t immediately advancing something feel less like a waste.
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