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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Jabor posted:

That's because you've never talked to anyone who honestly works with stats.

Yeah, there are a whole bunch of liars who set out to use the formalisms of stats to justify whatever agenda they're trying to push, and also a bunch of idiots that throw stats machinery at problems and blindly pick things with a strong correlation.

A good statistician doesn't do either of those things though.

lol

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Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

they're right though people take causal inference very seriously

you can't help that a kpmg consultant with a stata license will write in a report that r^2 is important, but he's not a statistician

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Jabor posted:

That's because you've never talked to anyone who honestly works with stats.

Yeah, there are a whole bunch of liars who set out to use the formalisms of stats to justify whatever agenda they're trying to push, and also a bunch of idiots that throw stats machinery at problems and blindly pick things with a strong correlation.

A good statistician doesn't do either of those things though.

a few bad apples lol

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
everyone remembers the famous phrase: lies, damned lies, and A good statistician doesn't do either of those things though.

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

Jabor how do you feel about crime rates in certain populations

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



or if not crime rates, kidney stones and urinary tract infections?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2004740

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Midjack posted:

or if not crime rates, kidney stones and urinary tract infections?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2004740

cool country

motedek
Oct 9, 2012
it would surprise me to hear someone with a graduate statistics degree say an analysis becomes causal if the model fit is good enough. that was the original straw man iirc.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

https://twitter.com/Chicken3gg/status/1274314622447820801

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/jonathanfly/status/1274277258002300928

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)


ban white men from tech

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

carry on then posted:

ban white men from tech

I think that's President Obama though?

:ohdear:

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Schadenboner posted:

I think that's President Obama though?

:ohdear:

why

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

It looks like a pixelated version of the portrait that was in federal buildings?

:shrug:

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Schadenboner posted:

It looks like a pixelated version of the portrait that was in federal buildings?

:shrug:

no that's a white guy

president obama was black

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Pinterest Mom posted:

no that's a white guy

president obama was black

It's a picture of President Obama.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

the ai is just trying to say obama = buttgieg which is an interesting take, get it a twitter account stat

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
the machine learned racism just not the racism we wanted

Emacs Headroom
Aug 2, 2003
the model probably needs a hint to know to use the black people autoencoder. try adding horrible stereotypes in the pixellated image

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


https://twitter.com/osazuwa/status/1274444300894572546?s=19

I had sort of glossed over this the first time but it really does make everyone white lol

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


it's unironically a good thing because it means that police can't run the magical enhance tool and sort through pics of black people until they find one they beat up and put in the drunk tank last night

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/tkasasagi/status/1274575977465540608

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
I mean, the white race is primarily defined by our various criminal conspiracies and acts so I guess it's good to have a tool that will put investigators on the scent of the most-likely criminal (a white)?

:shrug:

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
no clue if its real but my friend sent me this one

Max Facetime
Apr 18, 2009


holy poo poo

basically, never ever get your face into a machine learning training set

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


We're all in the training sets nowadays.

Sleng Teng
May 3, 2009

good lord @ all of this

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ultrafilter posted:

We're all in the training sets nowadays.

yeah, i'd imagine if you've ever had a picture of yourself uploaded to facebook or google photos you're part of the data.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
that thing is great at generating white people faces though. top marks there

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
“this white person probably exists and is awful”

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

eschaton posted:

“this white person probably exists and is awful”

In it, voted 5.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
someone post an albino black dude for balance

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

echinopsis posted:

someone post an albino black dude for balance

no

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
“albino black dude”

racism is incredible

Max Facetime
Apr 18, 2009

is this how Samsung’s 100x super zoom works?

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

Arcteryx Anarchist posted:

“albino black dude”

racism is incredible

Black people can be albino and usually still identify as black people.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/databoydg/status/1275236482190434304

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Arcteryx Anarchist posted:

“albino black dude”

racism is incredible

yeah after I wrote that I was like "is this wrong" but then again I don't really get how in amaerica calling someone black is ok at all. so forgive me for loving up the use of your hosed up language

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy


is he black or is he white? is he a she? does this person destroy every single stereotype known to mXn

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

echinopsis posted:

yeah after I wrote that I was like "is this wrong" but then again I don't really get how in amaerica calling someone black is ok at all. so forgive me for loving up the use of your hosed up language

it’s because we remain pretty high ranked in the racism league

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